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I put up the numbers. I haven’t skewed anything. How much is enough for a pensioner or couple to survive for 20 years then if means testing. Property, council tax and household bills excluded to make it a real number. I mean fancy wanting treats as an old person !

The numbers which prove your original claim to be totally incorrect.

I don't think it's for the state to fund 'treats'.
 
The numbers which prove your original claim to be totally incorrect.

I don't think it's for the state to fund 'treats'.
By 1 billion on a spend of 146. I was 0.75% out without googling before like you did. By treats I mean expenditure that many do. Maybe rarely some meals out or even buying clothes etc. hardly treats or you are one tight git to your family !
 
This started by silver wanting pensions limited to pay for more immigration control. I ask now what should be the amount needed to control immigration.
10 billion-20 billion. Although there has to be a will to stop it and you can’t buy that !
 
By 1 billion on a spend of 146. I was 0.75% out without googling before like you did. By treats I mean expenditure that many do. Maybe rarely some meals out or even buying clothes etc. hardly treats or you are one tight git to your family !

Yes, your claim was incorrect.

I treat my family plenty thank you, but I do so at my own expense, not the taxpayer.

People can do what they want with their own money, obviously. We're talking about public expenditure, and currently we give more welfare to the richest demographic in society than to anyone else - I don't think it's controversial to say that probably needs addressing...

There's this huge contradiction on the right where you all want the welfare bill down and less taxes, but as soon as someone mentions the largest welfare expense we have, there's no real interest in tackling it.
 
Yes, your claim was incorrect.

I treat my family plenty thank you, but I do so at my own expense, not the taxpayer.

People can do what they want with their own money, obviously. We're talking about public expenditure, and currently we give more welfare to the richest demographic in society than to anyone else - I don't think it's controversial to say that probably needs addressing...

There's this huge contradiction on the right where you all want the welfare bill down and less taxes, but as soon as someone mentions the largest welfare expense we have, there's no real interest in tackling it.
What? To the likes of Mateta you mean?
 

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