Israel v Hamas

[Spindle]

People should look into what happened in Jordan when they took in tens of thousands of Palestinians.

There's that and the economic costs.

And Kuwait, and Lebanon. Scousers of the Arab world

 

[Spindle]

That still doesn’t mean we have to kill them or deliberately starve them.

"We"??

 

[Spindle]

Coming from the poster that’s now twice justified just wiping Palestinians out now they’ve started, conflated the Palestine flag as the same as Hamas, and tried to justify starvation of an entire population as a legitimate war tactic because there’s historical precedent (in world wars, the last of which ended 80 years ago) I wouldn’t expect much else from him.

Drama. Either quote or apologise.

As for the precedent, the only thing that has changed in that time is communication. You do seem to be naive about the world, quite sheltered.

 

[Spindle]

So Wisbech, who is a self imposed expert on everything, states ‘the IDF must be escorting every convoy’ and along with other comments, doubts that the claims about Hamas intercepting and controlling the food aid are accurate or if they are, that they are historic.

Some Simple research from Spindle shows this not to be the case, so in true Wisbech style he then ignores the topic and hopes no one notices.

Lol you were bang on. He ignored it alright

 

[Spindle]

Have you met many Muslims? You lot have a very warped view of the average one.

We’ve had many Muslims plays for Palace the last few seasons. There’s loads in the premier league. Your average Muslim is far more like them than your ‘blow up the non-believer’ ones.

The problem is that when a religion is strong, as Islam is, then these tolerant ones become f***ing useless and unable to stand up to bloodthirsty leadership, they will not because the book says. Then you get a nasty cult. This is particularly prevalent of Islam, probably because it's not just a set of beliefs, it is a way of living, a finance system, a health system, it is everything.

Other religions are not like this, except those weird cults.

 

[Spindle]

From my experience nearly every British Muslim I’ve ever met, worked with, went to school/uni with, played football with, have been far more like your average person my age than any sort of religious zealot. It’s why I’ve never really got the fuss as much as you lot.

And what would happen to them if they, for example, lived like that under the Taliban?

 

[cryrst]

Just the most desperate and untenable of arguments now.

You can’t argue with facts danh and that it is Israel is what triggers so many when in our own country there is mayhem in the streets.

 

[Glazier#1]

Dramatic news!!

The daily express has, at last, come out with today's headline.

"Stop This War"



Oh, silly me. Of course, they focus on the real war that the whole world is concerned about:

"Stop This War On Our family Farms!"

Sense at last lol.

 

[DanH]

And what would happen to them if they, for example, lived like that under the Taliban?

A lot of Muslims literally fled when the Taliban regained control of Afghanistan. Why do you think that was?

 

[Stirlingsays]

A lot of Muslims literally fled when the Taliban regained control of Afghanistan. Why do you think that was?

Again, there's a massive gulf between not wanting to live a life of 7th century Islam and being compatible and of benefit to an Anglo Saxon culture and country.

No one here was asked.....but instead forced to accept and insulted if we objected.....and then once the left gained power, sacked.

Then while the mainstream media and politicians were feeding us messages like yours, our establishment was covering up the rapes of thousands of our girls.

And the progressives shouted racist at anyone pointing it out.....Indeed, some of them working with Islamic activist groups to deny it as a problem.

 

[DanH]

Again, there's a massive gulf between not wanting to live a life of 7th century Islam and being compatible and of benefit to an Anglo Saxon culture and country.

No one here was asked.....but instead forced to accept and insulted if we objected.....and then once the left gained power, sacked.

Then while the mainstream media and politicians were feeding us messages like yours, our establishment was covering up the rapes of thousands of our girls.

And the progressives shouted racist at anyone pointing it out.....Indeed, some of them working with Islamic activist groups to deny it as a problem.

I’m not saying that everyone that fled the Taliban should pitch up in the UK. Just that a lot more Muslims are actually far more ‘westernised’ than most believe or want to believe.

 

[DanH]

Apparently it's an open air prison so that sounds like a good thing to get rid of it

Here’s one of them. In response to ‘I see the Israel plan is to wipe Gaza off the map’.

 

[DanH]

Oops. Annoying when there’s receipts, isn’t it.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I’m not saying that everyone that fled the Taliban should pitch up in the UK. Just that a lot more Muslims are actually far more ‘westernised’ than most believe or want to believe.

So what?

They can be 'westernised' in Turkey.....Besides in most cases this 'westernised' you refer to isn't the same as being Anglo westernised or having allegiance to Britain.

More Muslims joined ISIS than joined the British Army...How about me having time for that tiny minority who joined the Army.

Yet if someone took your comments at face value they would be fooled into thinking they are all reading 'Lord of the Rings' and dreaming of the Shires.

This country.....In fact, all countries belong to those who hold allegiance to it.

 

[DanH]

So what?

They can be 'westernised' in Turkey.....Besides in most cases this 'westernised' you refer to isn't the same as being Anglo westernised or having allegiance to Britain.

More Muslims joined ISIS than joined the British Army yet if someone took your comments at face value they would be fooled into thinking they are all reading 'Lord of the Rings' and dreaming of the Shires.

This country.....In fact, all countries belong to those who hold allegiance to it.

I don’t disagree with you, more making a counter point to the ‘Muslims hate us’ commentary on here.

 

[eaglesdare]

There can be no peace while Hamas still run Gaza. They need to go one way or the other. A threat to Israel, the people of Gaza and the rest of us.

 

[DanH]

There can be no peace while Hamas still run Gaza. They need to go one way or the other. A threat to Israel, the people of Gaza and the rest of us.

I don’t think anyone has tried to argue otherwise.

 

[cryrst]

I’m not saying that everyone that fled the Taliban should pitch up in the UK. Just that a lot more Muslims are actually far more ‘westernised’ than most believe or want to believe.

Like all the families who grassed up the groomers amongst them. Very westernised and in with the way we operate.
Most white families would have no worries protecting others kids but Muslims clearly didn’t give a s*** and still don’t. My kids would be doing a stretch if I found out they were at it, would you hand yours in?

 

[cryrst]

I’m not saying that everyone that fled the Taliban should pitch up in the UK. Just that a lot more Muslims are actually far more ‘westernised’ than most believe or want to believe.

Unlike, big fingers!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Like all the families who grassed up the groomers amongst them. Very westernised and in with the way we operate.
Most white families would have no worries protecting others kids but Muslims clearly didn’t give a s*** and still don’t. My kids would be doing a stretch if I found out they were at it, would you hand yours in?

I would like to know how you think you know that responsible Muslims don’t quietly inform the police if they have information on anyone? For sure they won’t run to the media or otherwise draw attention to themselves because they have the safety of themselves and their family to consider.

I think there are too many assumptions made that just because the decent Muslim communities don’t demonstrate or make public condemnations they somehow accept the grooming. I don’t think it’s true. I think they are reticent to openly condemn but may well be quietly helping where they can. Just as criminals won’t openly grass on one another, for their own safety, but do so quietly when crimes against kids are involved, this is probably no different.

Otherwise where are the police getting any information?