Israel v Hamas

[georgenorman]

This has been mentioned to death.

Your ignorance, low IQ and apparent blindness is becoming boring now.

Go and wave your Israeli flag and bow down to your terrorist leader.

Why don't you answer the question instead of making personal insults.

 

[indianapalace85]

Please enlighten me on how you, the military expert, would have responded to Oct 7? No answer. You can only throw insults and parrot propaganda from a proscribed terrorist organisation.

🤣🤣🤣

You're beyond pathetic.

Nobody can have an articulate conversation with you because apparently you can't read and have the IQ of a boiled cabbage.

Also, if you support terrorists then you are no better than them and nobody should be giving you the time of day.

 

[indianapalace85]

Why don't you answer the question instead of making personal insults.

It's been answered multiple times.

Apparently idiots and, conveniently Isreali terrorist defenders, can't read and only bang on about Oct 7th because that apparently justifes daily genocide.

 

[georgenorman]

It's been answered multiple times.

Apparently idiots and, conveniently Isreali terrorist defenders, can't read and only bang on about Oct 7th because that apparently justifes daily genocide.

Has it by you?

 

[Penge Eagle]

It's been answered multiple times.

Apparently idiots and, conveniently Isreali terrorist defenders, can't read and only bang on about Oct 7th because that apparently justifes daily genocide.

"Bang on about Oct 7th"? Only a degenerate shrugs off October 7 like it was nothing. You excuse mass rape, child murder, and hostage-taking – then cry 'genocide' when the monsters who did it get hunted.

 

[indianapalace85]

Has it by you?

Yes.

And multiple times by everyone else with a conscience.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Yes.

And multiple times by everyone else with a conscience.

What a load of bullshit.

 

[indianapalace85]

"Bang on about Oct 7th"? Only a degenerate shrugs off October 7 like it was nothing. You excuse mass rape, child murder, and hostage-taking – then cry 'genocide' when the monsters who did it get hunted.

Shhhhhhh.
I don't talk to pathetic idiots.

You are ignorant to everything discussed, failure to remotely condemn anything after Oct 7th.

Go back to school, god forbid learn what it is to be human, then maybe come back after and try again to make your point.

 

[indianapalace85]

What a load of bullshit.

Yes, just like you pretending to pass as a human.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Shhhhhhh.
I don't talk to pathetic idiots.

You are ignorant to everything discussed, failure to remotely condemn anything after Oct 7th.

Go back to school, god forbid learn what it is to be human, then maybe come back after and try again to make your point.

Is this supposed to be a counter argument?

 

[Penge Eagle]

Yes, just like you pretending to pass as a human.

Jeez, we've gone to kindergarten level now.

 

[georgenorman]

Yes.

And multiple times by everyone else with a conscience.

It would save time for all concerned if you could just type a few words answering the question rather than endlessly saying it has been answered.

 

[Spindle]

I’m genuinely not sure if you’re deliberately dishonest or just a bit slow, but it’s clearly one of the two.

You have held the ‘population increasing’ as the pillar of your belief that this is not a genocide multiple times now - I highlighted that there is obviously no way any population count at this stage can be remotely accurate.

I have made precisely 0 claims about the current population levels in Gaza. I have only highlighted that tens of thousands have been killed by the IDF.

Yup, but that doesn't make it genocide, which is what I've argued, but I can't decide if you are dishonest or a bit slow, clearly one of the two.

 

[indianapalace85]

It would save time for all concerned if you could just type a few words answering the question rather than endlessly saying it has been answered.

Funny how answering the question doesn't seem to apply to Spindle with the tens of questions he's avoided in the last few hours - but hey, let's just ignore that to suit agendas, why not.

So, for those that are too lazy to read, October 7th was appalling and rightfully retaliation should have been taken.

That retaliation should have been PROPORTIONATE.

So if 1000 are killed on Oct 7th, then 1000 ideally would be killed of Hamas.
Obviously, we all know it's not as black and white as that.

So if you want to weed out Hamas, you plan an extensive operation to use intelligence and military consideration at the table to work out how you can eliminate Hamas over the course of time.

If you discover that they're hiding in hospoirals and schools then you surely send in task forces - otherwise no hostages ever matter ever.

With any normal military leader, you would like to think about how that can be achieved without killing thousands and thousands of civilians in the process.

But that has gone beyond day 1 of retaliation. Netanyahu has ignored the ICC's ruling that it's gone beyond retaliation and are now proven to commit war crimes.

It happens daily, there are no Palestinians left and only a few hours ago a beach cafe was destroyed with no Hamas, only Palestinians, journalisrts (that have been banned from reporting in Gaza) and aid workers that have so far been murdered or denied entry, by forcing starvation - a deliberate tactic against the Palestinian people.

If you really needed any of that spelling out, then god help you.

I won't lose sleep at night, knowing where my moral compass sits.

If you want to side with the terrorists, committing daily war crimes to the point of genocide, that's your prerogative.

 

[indianapalace85]

Yup, but that doesn't make it genocide, which is what I've argued, but I can't decide if you are dishonest or a bit slow, clearly one of the two.

Do you have a mirror at hand when you spew out all this garbage?

 

[georgenorman]

Funny how answering the question doesn't seem to apply to Spindle with the tens of questions he's avoided in the last few hours - but hey, let's just ignore that to suit agendas, why not.

So, for those that are too lazy to read, October 7th was appalling and rightfully retaliation should have been taken.

That retaliation should have been PROPORTIONATE.

So if 1000 are killed on Oct 7th, then 1000 ideally would be killed of Hamas.
Obviously, we all know it's not as black and white as that.

So if you want to weed out Hamas, you plan an extensive operation to use intelligence and military consideration at the table to work out how you can eliminate Hamas over the course of time.

If you discover that they're hiding in hospoirals and schools then you surely send in task forces - otherwise no hostages ever matter ever.

With any normal military leader, you would like to think about how that can be achieved without killing thousands and thousands of civilians in the process.

But that has gone beyond day 1 of retaliation. Netanyahu has ignored the ICC's ruling that it's gone beyond retaliation and are now proven to commit war crimes.

It happens daily, there are no Palestinians left and only a few hours ago a beach cafe was destroyed with no Hamas, only Palestinians, journalisrts (that have been banned from reporting in Gaza) and aid workers that have so far been murdered or denied entry, by forcing starvation - a deliberate tactic against the Palestinian people.

If you really needed any of that spelling out, then god help you.

I won't lose sleep at night, knowing where my moral compass sits.

If you want to side with the terrorists, committing daily war crimes to the point of genocide, that's your prerogative.

What's proportionate? Should Israel have attacked some music festival and various communities, shooting people at random, killing babies in front of the parents, raping women, burning some people alive, take some hostages and parade the naked dead bodies of raped girls through the streets of Tel Avi to the acclaim of cheering crowds chanting 'death to Gaza', 'death to all Muslims'. I think that compass of yours must be faulty.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Funny how answering the question doesn't seem to apply to Spindle with the tens of questions he's avoided in the last few hours - but hey, let's just ignore that to suit agendas, why not.

So, for those that are too lazy to read, October 7th was appalling and rightfully retaliation should have been taken.

That retaliation should have been PROPORTIONATE.

So if 1000 are killed on Oct 7th, then 1000 ideally would be killed of Hamas.
Obviously, we all know it's not as black and white as that.

So if you want to weed out Hamas, you plan an extensive operation to use intelligence and military consideration at the table to work out how you can eliminate Hamas over the course of time.

If you discover that they're hiding in hospoirals and schools then you surely send in task forces - otherwise no hostages ever matter ever.

With any normal military leader, you would like to think about how that can be achieved without killing thousands and thousands of civilians in the process.

But that has gone beyond day 1 of retaliation. Netanyahu has ignored the ICC's ruling that it's gone beyond retaliation and are now proven to commit war crimes.

It happens daily, there are no Palestinians left and only a few hours ago a beach cafe was destroyed with no Hamas, only Palestinians, journalisrts (that have been banned from reporting in Gaza) and aid workers that have so far been murdered or denied entry, by forcing starvation - a deliberate tactic against the Palestinian people.

If you really needed any of that spelling out, then god help you.

I won't lose sleep at night, knowing where my moral compass sits.

If you want to side with the terrorists, committing daily war crimes to the point of genocide, that's your prerogative.

Proportionality? When terrorists murder your civilians by the thousands, your response won’t be a polite tap on the shoulder. Hamas hides behind kids and women while Israel warns, targets militants, and ends threats. Crying about 'disproportionate' is just covering for terrorists.

As for your military expertise, it's not very good. Targeted airstrikes hit militants fast with less risk to soldiers and civilians – ground invasions in cities drag on, cause more chaos, and put everyone in the crossfire. Your tactics would have more civilians killed.

 

[indianapalace85]

What's proportionate? Should Israel have attacked some music festival and various communities, shooting people at random, killing babies in front the parents, raping women, burning some people alive, take some hostages and parade the naked dead bodies of raped girls through the streets of Tel Avi to the acclaim of cheering crowds chanting 'death to Israel', 'death to all Jews'. I think that compass of your must be faulty.

I refer you to the answer I gave moments ago.
We've discovered that for some reason today, no Israeli loyalists can read.

Well done for describing pretty much what Israel are doing on a daily basis, though, full marks.

You all lost your humanity on Oct 7th and somehow think all bets are off when it comes to retaliation.

Shame on all of you.

 

[Penge Eagle]

What's proportionate? Should Israel have attacked some music festival and various communities, shooting people at random, killing babies in front the parents, raping women, burning some people alive, take some hostages and parade the naked dead bodies of raped girls through the streets of Tel Avi to the acclaim of cheering crowds chanting 'death to Israel', 'death to all Jews'. I think that compass of your must be faulty.

He probably thinks 50,000 Jews should be allowed to be killed to make everything "proportionate".

 

[indianapalace85]

Proportionality? When terrorists murder your civilians by the thousands, your response won’t be a polite tap on the shoulder. Hamas hides behind kids and women while Israel warns, targets militants, and ends threats. Crying about 'disproportionate' is just covering for terrorists.

As for your military expertise, it's not very good. Targeted airstrikes hit militants fast with less risk to soldiers and civilians – ground invasions in cities drag on, cause more chaos, and put everyone in the crossfire. Your tactics would have more civilians killed.

Oh wow, let's hire you as military commander quick, before more civilians are killed.

Oh look, we don't need to, cos they're managing to murder civilians quite well without your guidance.

If my tactics would have more civilians killed, I'm confused as to which part of their current tactics you think are actually working to minimalise civilian casualties?