Spindle
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Attacking those who attack it
Israel v Hamas
- Topic starter Forest Hillbilly
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Attacking those who attack it
Spindle
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Dreadful analogy
Spindle
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Given that 65000 Americans were killed in Vietnam then no. But wtf do you know
Forest Hillbilly
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Ooh look. Israel is still bombing and killing people in Lebanon, even after the ceasefire has begun.
USA has pulled out of further negotiations
Gigantic clusterfk
Perchance FIFA can do a VAR review and rescind Trumps Peace Prize 😁
USA has pulled out of further negotiations
Gigantic clusterfk
Perchance FIFA can do a VAR review and rescind Trumps Peace Prize 😁
ASCPFC
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People seem to think Israel will just stop because the US said so. It clearly isn't the case. And has been stated by Israel. They'll need to be paid off in a deal.
silvertop
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They took it on the chin from Iraq for the first Gulf war.
I wonder what price they extracted for that?
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A lot, I should imagine.
chris123
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They need to hold elections by the end of October, be interesting to see if they vote for a moderate like Yair Lapid.
ASCPFC
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Usually some kind of coalition. That's the current issue: the most hardline, Orthodox are part of this coalition.
Stirlingsays
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Not really seeing this Iran agreement lasting.
silvertop
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Hard right Zionist swivel eyed lot have held the political balance for far too long.
A working example of power corrupts.
US pullout will leave Israel fighting guerilla wars left right and centre with Iran fighting them by proxy.
Ie the Middle East to revert to usual business.
Stirlingsays
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Trump is the first example for decades of someone willing to deescalate (even though the war was his fault) in decades. All we usually get is the double down and a worsening situation. But while Trump will obviously claim victory, this really is him taking a significant L.....but it's also him facing reality and making the correct choice.....there is no other realistic choice without economic collapse.
But just as the IRA discovered when they bombed the square mile (main financial district), the only way to win is to hit the money....governments will lets their military and civilians die, but they won't let their wealth class get seriously hit in the pocket. Iran learnt that killing people is far less important than hitting their money.
Iran simply activated their main geographical strength over the strait and America/Israel had no answer once a troop invasion was off the table.
You would think that the guys paid the big bucks would be able to work this sh1t out.....but lobbyists and money do strange things to 'go alongs'.
Stirlingsays
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It's talking tough with nothing to back it up.
If they don't stop and the strait gets closed down again, Trump could turn the money and weapons tap off....well that's the only leverage Trump has....if he actually has it due to other factors.
It's spicy.....and dangerous for Trump because of assassination attempts.
But Trump has no choice due to the economics.
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