Israel v Hamas

steeleye20 said:
There are some reliable contributors on youtube, profs Sachs and Mearsheimer for example.

Especially good on the lying western governments and media, particularly on what actually happened on October 7th and its causes, avoided by the west as Israel killed many of their own people.

The west is basically jewish propaganda and colonialism as in the peace agreement.


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Those lying Western democracies that have given you the life you enjoy.

If I were in charge, I'd deport you first.
 
steeleye20 said:
There are some reliable contributors on youtube, profs Sachs and Mearsheimer for example.

Especially good on the lying western governments and media, particularly on what actually happened on October 7th and its causes, avoided by the west as Israel killed many of their own people.

The west is basically jewish propaganda and colonialism as in the peace agreement.


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It is typical of communists like you to post some crap where it is alleged that Jews carried out the Oct 7 atrocities rather than Hamas. Next you will be saying that the Jews carried out the Holocaust on themselves. Your posts are becoming increasingly deranged, you should seek medical help.
 
georgenorman said:
It is typical of communists like you to post some crap where it is alleged that Jews carried out the Oct 7 atrocities rather than Hamas. Next you will be saying that the Jews carried out the Holocaust on themselves. Your posts are becoming increasingly deranged, you should seek medical help.
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This post by our resident jew hater is very close to being supportive of Hamas
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Which posts of mine suggest unconditional support for Hamas?
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Why do you engage?

To some of the posters on here, there is only one correct answer. Israel is always right. They can kill all 2.1 million Gazans. They can then turn their guns on all Palestinians in the West Bank. After that they can kill all those who occupy the border territories and then hunt down the 5 million or so Palestinians living as lifetime refugees in neighbouring countries and abroad.

If you express any objection, that can only mean (and I mean only - their thoughts are that binary):

1. You MUST be a Jew hater; AND
2. You MUST support Jihadi terrorism; AND (and this is my personal favourite)
3. You MUST be a victim blamer!
 
georgenorman said:
It is typical of communists like you to post some crap where it is alleged that Jews carried out the Oct 7 atrocities rather than Hamas. Next you will be saying that the Jews carried out the Holocaust on themselves. Your posts are becoming increasingly deranged, you should seek medical help.
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I should say that my above post excludes Steeleye whose posts can be, as you say, bonkers.
 
silvertop said:
Why do you engage?

To some of the posters on here, there is only one correct answer. Israel is always right. They can kill all 2.1 million Gazans. They can then turn their guns on all Palestinians in the West Bank. After that they can kill all those who occupy the border territories and then hunt down the 5 million or so Palestinians living as lifetime refugees in neighbouring countries and abroad.

If you express any objection, that can only mean (and I mean only - their thoughts are that binary):

1. You MUST be a Jew hater; AND
2. You MUST support Jihadi terrorism; AND (and this is my personal favourite)
3. You MUST be a victim blamer!
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'Right' is beside the point.

Would you support the firebombing of a city or dropping a nuke on it?

I would have because it was them or us during WW2. Our very existence was potentially at stake.

Do I want people to be horribly killed in their thousands? Of course not.

Is it ever justifiable to kill civilians in war? Who can really say. War has rules, but those rules don't count for much when fighting a ruthless enemy.

I don't see how anyone can look at the current situation and call out only one side for killing.
It's bias, plain and simple.
I have expressed my bias and why. It has nothing to do with liking Jews or wishing innocent people dead. Hiding behind virtue signalling is just disingenuous.

There is a correlation between political stance and criticising Israel.

You won't admit it to yourself.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
I read that analysis earlier. It’s an interesting description of all the twists and turns that have brought us to this point. Which may well be another turn, but isn’t the end of the road. Maybe you missed this part:-

“Under a French-Saudi peace plan, Arab countries also issued an unprecedented condemnation of Hamas' October 7 attacks and called for the group to end its rule on Gaza and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority under independent statehood.

This was a diplomatic win for the Arabs and Europeans. Trump's 20-point plan drew on the France-Saudi plan in key areas, including a reference to eventual Palestinian "statehood" even if this was vague and highly conditional.”

So there has been many players involved even if the closeness of the USA to Israel means that they are the only ones with sufficient leverage to force them to listen. Time will tell how seriously or whether this is just all about Trump. As everything he does ultimately is.

He wanted the Peace Prize, without understanding what is actually required of someone to receive it. An autocrat, like Trump, has no chance. It’s just been awarded to María Corina Machado from Venezuela, a champion of democracy. The speech awarding it is critising tyrants, comments seemingly directed at Trump.
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You just can’t help yourself can you. Can you explain what Obama did to get the prize?
 
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steeleye20 said:
There are some reliable contributors on youtube, profs Sachs and Mearsheimer for example.

Especially good on the lying western governments and media, particularly on what actually happened on October 7th and its causes, avoided by the west as Israel killed many of their own people.

The west is basically jewish propaganda and colonialism as in the peace agreement.


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You come out with some s*** on here at times, which I accept as your views, however this post is a f***ing disgrace and you should b3 ashamed of yourself. Did the Holocaust happen in your eyes?
 
Respect to the indomitable Palestinian people.

After all their suffering and completely blameless what did they ever do except wish to exist.

The latest attempt to eradicate them has failed, that is the only good thing I can think of.

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steeleye20 said:
Respect to the indomitable Palestinian people.

After all their suffering and completely blameless what did they ever do except wish to exist.

The latest attempt to eradicate them has failed, that is the only good thing I can think of.

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They voted for HAMAS the moral of the story is do not vote for crazy people.
 
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