Israel v Hamas

[chris123]

Am awaiting for CPFC Saturn to answer this, been a while an am not optimistic.

There are the internationally recognised borders and self imposed internal demarcation of The West Bank and Gaza.

Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt are the borders with other countries

Ambiguous then?

 

[HKOwen]

No, the four state borders are clear, the borders of any future Palestinian state are I think yet to be determined exactly. I consider a border to be an international demarcation line. Internally it is clear where The West Bank starts within Israel, same with the Gaza Strip although tht may change at some point.

 

[Glazier#1]

What do you mean?

This was in response to you writing this:

"I'm not sure what the US has to do with Israel's right to exist?"

 

[chris123]

No, the four state borders are clear, the borders of any future Palestinian state are I think yet to be determined exactly. I consider a border to be an international demarcation line. Internally it is clear where The West Bank starts within Israel, same with the Gaza Strip although tht may change at some point.

Made a bit more difficult by the weapons imbalance in the region, Israel’s being vastly superior

 

[Spindle]

And those projections have remained unaltered since October 7th and so clearly completely out of date.

Yet at the bottom

"© 2025 World Population Review"

I beleive that Oct 7 was in 2023 right? Yes. Yes it was.

 

[Penge Eagle]

This was in response to you writing this:

"I'm not sure what the US has to do with Israel's right to exist?"

Thanks for your contribution.

 

[HKOwen]

Made a bit more difficult by the weapons imbalance in the region, Israel’s being vastly superior

Lost me, are we talking about national borders or weapons?

 

[Spindle]

Made a bit more difficult by the weapons imbalance in the region, Israel’s being vastly superior

Tell us what you think would happen if there wasn't that weapons imbalance....

 

[Glazier#1]

Thanks for your contribution.

Also, the vast influence upon US politics by the Jewish diaspora in the States?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I've previously called you out on downplaying Oct 7 and for the anti-Semitic view that the Jews should have been planted in a US state instead of their ancestral home.

I have never played down the awful act committed by Hamas on Oct 7th. It felt personal to me as I was in Israel just a few days before it happened.

Nor is suggesting that the USA offering the Jewish people the opportunity to establish a homeland in the USA, after their suffering in WW2, the least anti semitic. It would have been an act of kindness that could have avoided the troubles that followed the ending of the British Mandate and the establishment by the Zionists of modern Israel. The problem with the “ancestral home” justification is that others also make that claim.

 

[Penge Eagle]

Also, the vast influence upon US politics by the Jewish diaspora in the States?

What are you on about? You're just blurting out random sentences.

 

[glazedallover]

What are you on about? You're just blurting out random sentences.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[HKOwen]

Also, the vast influence upon US politics by the Jewish diaspora in the States?

Diaspora definition is the dispersion or spread of a people from their original homeland.

So you are agreeing that the original Jewish homeland is where Israel is now.

QED

Make you mind up

 

[chris123]

Tell us what you think would happen if there wasn't that weapons imbalance....

Qatar could not protect themselves from an Israeli air attack last week

 

[HKOwen]

This is relevant how to borders? Israel couldn't protect itself from murderous Hamas paragliders

 

[Glazier#1]

Diaspora definition is the dispersion or spread of a people from their original homeland.

So you are agreeing that the original Jewish homeland is where Israel is now.

QED

Make you mind up

Dear oh Lord!

Yes, the USA received many Jewish immigrants from their homelands in many different parts of Europe, after centuries of persecution. The 'homelands', in these cases were not Israel insomuch as they were born in a European (say) country and not Israel.

As for your 'Make your mind up', I haven't even expressed any sort of opinion on the subject. Blimey.

Wind you neck in, mate.

Click bait headline:

"See what happens when man discovers dictionary!"

 

[Spindle]

Qatar could not protect themselves from an Israeli air attack last week

I'm suspicious of this. Have you seen the what kit the Qatari military have? They are easily in the top 3 in the region, with the Saudi's. The west has sold them a massive amount of modern hardware, even at Fairford they had Apache Guardian on display, this is an attack helicopter that the British Army have only just got their hands on.

It is very strange that Israel were able to make such an incursion without any response. The Israeli jets were not stealth and they only used JDAMs which don't have much range.

 

[chris123]

This is relevant how to borders? Israel couldn't protect itself from murderous Hamas paragliders

You said yesterday that the Gaza Strip and West Bank are Israeli. So they are entitled to protect those borders?

 

[chris123]

I'm suspicious of this. Have you seen the what kit the Qatari military have? They are easily in the top 3 in the region, with the Saudi's. The west has sold them a massive amount of modern hardware, even at Fairford they had Apache Guardian on display, this is an attack helicopter that the British Army have only just got their hands on.

It is very strange that Israel were able to make such an incursion without any response. The Israeli jets were not stealth and they only used JDAMs which don't have much range.

I read the BBC report from Jeremy Bowen, who also said he had previously felt safe in Qatar but not anymore

 

[Glazier#1]

What are you on about? You're just blurting out random sentences.

Not random sentences, actually.

Right, here we go: (it's boring, I know, but just to remind you)



1) You originally wrote to Slivertop:

“I'm not sure what the US has to do with Israel's right to exist?”


2)To which I replied:


“I suggest that real politik has the USA wanting Israel's right to exist and act as their agent in the levant?

No?

Just as Iran wants Hamas as their agents.

No?


3)You then replied:

“What do you mean”

4)I answered:

“This was in response to you writing this: "I'm not sure what the US has to do with Israel's right to exist?"

5)You replied:

“Thanks for your contribution”

6)I then added, shortly after:

“Also, the vast influence upon US politics by the Jewish diaspora in the States?”

Not random sentences, really. All relevant to our previous exchanges.