Israel v Hamas

[Spindle]

It's a close call what is worse, defending the IDF or defending this guy

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Sheeran getting attacked for simply sticking to music. Oh the left, what c**** they are

 

[Joseph Paxton]

Sheeran getting attacked for simply sticking to music. Oh the left, what c**** they are

But his music is cynical, formulaic drek too. So he's had it coming for pandering to the Spotify algorithms.

 

[Spindle]

Can you evidence that most people understand or sympathise with Ed Sheeran? I've provided you multiple links this morning indicating the exact opposite. I can send many, many more - he's taking a reputational hammering by any definition.

As I said, principle is so alien to you you can't get your head round it - you've convinced yourself support acts who were already irrelevant are trying to stay relevant by turning down an enormous career opportunity. Very sensible argument.

Major, major cope because you're seeing what most people think of your point of view.

Mouthy lot you Jew haters are

 

[HKOwen]

You aren't though because you've not banged on remotely about Yemen and any other location, nor the Chinese Muslims that are being literally genocide in every sense (Chinese have it right, they see the threat)

This is the point, unless it's Israel on Palestinians the left aren't interested, i.e it's about Jew hate

 

[Spindle]

As I said previously, being apolitical to genocide is not a popular position. It might be in your household, but not to most people.

You think annihilation, obliteration and suffering of women and children is acceptable if you're attacked first. Fine, most people would disagree.

You genocide supporters can hold whatever view you want - all I'm highlighting, as I have for many many months, is what most other people think of your views.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

As I said previously, being apolitical to genocide is not a popular position. It might be in your household, but not to most people.

You think annihilation, obliteration and suffering of women and children is acceptable if you're attacked first. Fine, most people would disagree.

You genocide supporters can hold whatever view you want - all I'm highlighting, as I have for many many months, is what most other people think of your views.

Do you know what?

Most other people I know share my point of view as stated in my post above. That is my first hand personal experience of the situation and others around the world that I have highlighted, so where you are getting your ‘imagined’ figures from I have no idea.

Your opinion is worth exactly what I paid for it, I don’t care what you think.

And for the avoidance of doubt, War is War, Hamas attacked Israel and their people. I would stop at nothing to annihilate Hamas, ALL of its members, supporters and infrastructure, totally destroy it.

That is the way to respond when attacked. I apply that principle to anyone, any organisation or any Country.

 

[Spindle]

Genocide does make that test automatic - would it be reasonable for anyone to be 'apolitical' on the holocaust?

Gaza is not a war - it's a land grab and it's ethnic cleansing, as Israel have themselves told us many times over.

It would be reasonable not to bring it up at every gig. People have come to hear music not get f***ing lectured. Has the t*** not got enough material?

 

[Spindle]

It’s a fact they’re both considered genocides by most experts on genocide, which is what I said.

I don’t think it’s ‘soooooo’ important, I think it’s indicative of how Sheeran’s PR has suffered, which it clearly is.

"Experts on genocide". Wtf 🤣

 

[CPFCSaturn]

‘The population has gone up since 1950 so how can there be a genocide’ is a phenomenally dumb argument, even for you.

Corker 🤣

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Do you know what?

Most other people I know share my point of view as stated in my post above. That is my first hand personal experience of the situation and others around the world that I have highlighted, so where you are getting your ‘imagined’ figures from I have no idea.

Your opinion is worth exactly what I paid for it, I don’t care what you think.

And for the avoidance of doubt, War is War, Hamas attacked Israel and their people. I would stop at nothing to annihilate Hamas, ALL of its members, supporters and infrastructure, totally destroy it.

That is the way to respond when attacked. I apply that principle to anyone, any organisation or any Country.

From polling that I’ve shared many times on the thread - I wouldn’t dream of thinking the opinions of ‘people I know’ is indicative of anything, that would be ludicrous.

Great, you support genocide if you’re attacked first - good for you.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

"Experts on genocide". Wtf 🤣

Yes, you know people who have spent their lives studying the field - I’ve referenced some specific individuals and bodies above if you want to check it out.

Obviously your Facebook page knows better than them, but worth a look 🤣

 

[cryrst]

There's a hell of a lot of cope here - you can convince yourself of whatever you wish, it's very very obvious from the fallout of this story who has come off better. The fact Ed Sheeran is a bigger artist doesn't change that at all.

Popular singer’s fans demand refunds after opening acts back out of controversial tour

Some Ed Sheeran fans are seeking refunds after Macklemore was removed from the 'Loop Tour' for making a Pro-Palestine speech

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I've told you all for a long time; in the real world, the majority of people are appalled by what Israel have done and have no time for people who try to excuse and justify their atrocities.

I’m in that minority!

 

[georgenorman]

But his music is cynical, formulaic drek too. So he's had it coming for pandering to the Spotify algorithms.

Yes, what we want is more Rap 'music' with liberal use of the 'N' word, celebration of the sexual abuse of 'bitches', drug use, shootings and knifings.

 

[eaglesdare]

It’s a fact they’re both considered genocides by most experts on genocide, which is what I said.

I don’t think it’s ‘soooooo’ important, I think it’s indicative of how Sheeran’s PR has suffered, which it clearly is.

Incorrect again. But nice try.


Then why bring it up about followers? It's clear only a small minority perhaps even bots have unfollowed him 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Joseph Paxton]

Yes, what we want is more Rap 'music' with liberal use of the 'N' word, celebration of the sexual abuse of 'bitches', drug use, shootings and knifings.

But definitely no RELAX! by Frankie Goes To Hollywood !!!

FILTH!!!

 

[HKOwen]

Yes, what we want is more Rap 'music' with liberal use of the 'N' word, celebration of the sexual abuse of 'bitches', drug use, shootings and knifings.

Word

 

[Joseph Paxton]

Yes, what we want is more Rap 'music' with liberal use of the 'N' word, celebration of the sexual abuse of 'bitches', drug use, shootings and knifings.

Oh, I actually maybe see a point I kinda agree with here.

Black Lives Matter! Until you listen to the latest Hip Hop and Grime albums wherein, those same lives don't seem to be accorded any value at all...

 

[McAhuna]

The Left use genocide so if you disagree you support genocide etc.

It's in the vein of if you said All Lives Matter you were racist etc. The words just change with current happenings

Or, if you don't support the genocide, you are 'anti-Semitic'. Don't forget that one.

 

[McAhuna]

It's pretty clear what the public's view is

 

[silvertop]

Do you know what?

Most other people I know share my point of view as stated in my post above. That is my first hand personal experience of the situation and others around the world that I have highlighted, so where you are getting your ‘imagined’ figures from I have no idea.

Your opinion is worth exactly what I paid for it, I don’t care what you think.

And for the avoidance of doubt, War is War, Hamas attacked Israel and their people. I would stop at nothing to annihilate Hamas, ALL of its members, supporters and infrastructure, totally destroy it.

That is the way to respond when attacked. I apply that principle to anyone, any organisation or any Country.

Once again the argument is not about Hamas it is about the tens of thousands of collateral deaths who the IDF seem willing to "sacrifice" to achieve the objective you cite.

Thus, we did not carpet bomb festering republican holes during the Troubles. That is pretty much what the IDF did.