Israel v Hamas

steeleye20 said:
A plan to perpetuate Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine.

Netanyahu hasn't the slightest intention of actual withdrawal or recognition and has even said so today.

'gradual withdrawal' is purely a guise for permanent occupation, he just drags it out forever.

He is just pissing all over everbody as effortlessly as he is so used to doing.

It is quite incredible to see.
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I know that we live in a world where no one seems to understand when they have lost anymore.....but the Palestinians well and truly lost. But no one wants to take accountability for making stupid decisions. It's a similar thing in Ukraine.

In my opinion they fell right into Netty's plan on October 7th and their stupidity and bloodlust for getting a thousand Jews led to this. They thought taking hostages and the US would limit what Israel did....they actually thought that Israel didn't know about it. They did all this while Israel had one of its most right wing governments.....It's so low IQ you'd be forgiven for a dark laugh.

It's another of my opinions that this is what hot heads do....'fools rush in'...as in chess they make rash moves and lose....the only problem with this is that most of the blood is of the innocents....any side you look at.

Israel aren't stupid, they took out their enemies one by one and the Arabs (the ones who are their enemies) let them do it (aside from Yemen). So essentially the Arabs got the same result they have had since 1948....defeat.

You know....at some point.....You have to just shrug and say Israel deserve the land. They are just brighter and have more balls....and at the end of the day being brighter with more balls ends up deciding where borders start and end.
 
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Stirlingsays said:
I know that we live in a world where no one seems to understand when they have lost anymore.....but the Palestine's well and truly lost. But no one wants to take accountability for making stupid decisions. It's a similar thing in Ukraine.

In my opinion they fell right into Netty's plan on October 7th and their stupidity and bloodlust for getting a thousand Jews led to this. They thought taking hostages and the US would limit what Israel did....they actually thought that Israel didn't know about it. They did all this while Israel had one of its most right wing governments.....It's so low IQ you'd be forgiven for a dark laugh.

It's another of my opinions that this is what hot heads do.....as in chess they make rash moves and lose....the only problem with this is that most of the blood is of the innocents....any side you look at.

Israel aren't stupid, they took out their enemies one by one and the Arabs (the ones who are their enemies) let them do it (aside from Yemen). So essentially the Arabs got the same result they have had since 1948....defeat.

You know....at some point.....You have to just shrug and say Israel deserve the land. They are just brighter and have more balls....and at the end of the day being brighter with more balls ends up deciding where borders start and end.
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Where can he go though, he's got go avoid 125 countries in his dotage?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
No one is honouring Hamas. You can criticise both sides.

Trump only ever wants what’s best for him. Compassion for others doesn’t exist in him.

Obama is a genuine man who made real efforts to try to lower tensions and find compromises in situations in which effective diplomacy is very difficult. The award of the Prize was intended to help him.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1972901851314978840


"are they really motivated by concern for the Palestinians, or just by old-fashioned Jew-hatred?"
 
steeleye20 said:
A plan to perpetuate Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine.

Netanyahu hasn't the slightest intention of actual withdrawal or recognition and has even said so today.

'gradual withdrawal' is purely a guise for permanent occupation, he just drags it out forever.

He is just pissing all over everbody as effortlessly as he is so used to doing.

It is quite incredible to see.
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I would have thought even Israeli policing gaza will make it safer for gazans
 
HKOwen said:
So, Hamas fighters can get amnesty and leave Gaza, to where?

Which country would take them?

This seems to be a fairly big flaw, and the one's who don't surrender?

There will be a constant terrorist campaign by those who hide away, and who will police Gaza, who will be the force to seek and destroy the remaining Hamas fighters?

Luckily the anti war criminal Blair is involved so all is well
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No one seems to have a solution to these simple points, where will Hamas fighters go and who police's Gaza after
 
It might not work because of the detail to be worked out. There are extremists on both sides, which also doesn't assist. Certainly recognition of a Palestinian State is a topic of contention.
There is also a suggestion in the media that Israel also wants to take more of the West Bank. Borders and Statehood will be where the deal fails. And that's the pity, because it's just more Palestinians that are going to be killed, and Israel will ultimately do what it wants (with American backing)
 
HKOwen said:
No one seems to have a solution to these simple points, where will Hamas fighters go and who police's Gaza after
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1. Fighters just disarm, just like demobbed soldiers. The leaders can go to Iran or any of the states who have Palestinian populations.
2. The PA under scrutiny from responsible Arab states. I'm sure the UN know, they bang a drum like student politicians on this.

As I said all along, Hamas need disarming and removing, and the people need responsible Arab rule with strength.

It's a good opportunity for Greta and her selfie flotilla to dock and move in with their rainbow flags so they can teach the Palestinians all about diversity
 
Spindle said:
1. Fighters just disarm, just like demobbed soldiers. The leaders can go to Iran or any of the states who have Palestinian populations.
2. The PA under scrutiny from responsible Arab states. I'm sure the UN know, they bang a drum like student politicians on this.

As I said all along, Hamas need disarming and removing, and the people need responsible Arab rule with strength.

It's a good opportunity for Greta and her selfie flotilla to dock and move in with their rainbow flags so they can teach the Palestinians all about diversity
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I would laugh my socks off if the flotilla arrived only to see Palestinians demonstrating that they should go home and stick their diversity.
 
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