Israel v Hamas

indianapalace85 said:
That's a nonsense generalisation.

I even have a friend that considers himself right-wing and we have plenty of disagreements politically, but he even said the other day that it's ludicrous that they're branded terrorists.

You're pandering to your bias again. If you genuinely think these protesters are TERRORISTS, then that says a lot.
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We'll have to agree to disagree.

They meet legal the definition under the Terrorism Act 2000 in UK law.
 
Penge Eagle said:
We'll have to agree to disagree.

They meet legal the definition under the Terrorism Act 2000 in UK law.
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Granted.

But just because they're written down in law, that doesn't mean it's not a pile of crap.

Laws and policies are written daily by individuals and parties that we despise.
 
indianapalace85 said:
Granted.

But just because they're written down in law, that doesn't mean it's not a pile of crap.

Laws and policies are written daily by individuals and parties that we despise.
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We obviously need a sensible, balanced chap like you in charge.
 
indianapalace85 said:
I agree.

But if we're talking about treatment of women and forced marriages etc, let's not forget the amount of white men making outrageous decisions about women's bodies in Congress in America right now.

These appalling decisions are all made by white men - so not all atrocities are contained to a certain skin colour.
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I was talking about what I had experienced, regarding the Muslim culture. Some of which was absolutely appalling.Not sure I stated women werent treated badly elsewhere, as of course they are, so strange you mentioned it in reply to my post.
 
Spiderman said:
I was talking about what I had experienced, regarding the Muslim culture. Some of which was absolutely appalling.Not sure I stated women werent treated badly elsewhere, as of course they are, so strange you mentioned it in reply to my post.
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Because I'm saying a lot of angles, prejudices and ethnicities are being banded about by way of some sort of filtered anger.

If you genuinely don't like part of the Muslim culture then fair enough and that is yours to prejudice or criticise as you see fit.

I'm just against the use of bringing in ethnicities, which might also be Muslim, that may then feel the unfair wrath of someone else's loathing, just because they happen to be Muslim - but don't subscribe to a certain part of it.
 
indianapalace85 said:
I agree.

But if we're talking about treatment of women and forced marriages etc, let's not forget the amount of white men making outrageous decisions about women's bodies in Congress in America right now.

These appalling decisions are all made by white men - so not all atrocities are contained to a certain skin colour.
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I'm not sure how being against abortion is about 'white men'.

Most non white cultures aren't fond of it either and control women's bodies far more than Europeans or their descendants in America....which is increasingly hispanic who aren't that fond either.

It's basic social conservatism and don't forget many women also agree with prohibition against abortion so it isn't a men against women thing at all.

It's social conservatism against liberalism.
 
indianapalace85 said:
I agree.

But if we're talking about treatment of women and forced marriages etc, let's not forget the amount of white men making outrageous decisions about women's bodies in Congress in America right now.

These appalling decisions are all made by white men - so not all atrocities are contained to a certain skin colour.
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They are trying to protect life and not control women. 👍🏻 The real Genocide in the world is the countless murder of unborn babies.
 
Stirlingsays said:
I'm not sure how being against abortion is about 'white men'.

Most non white cultures aren't fond of it either and control women's bodies far more than Europeans or their descendants in America....which is increasingly hispanic who aren't that fond either.

It's basic social conservatism and don't forget many women also agree with prohibition against abortion so it isn't a men against women thing at all.

It's social conservatism against liberalism.
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I was merely extending the point that you just made.

As you pointed out, a vast amount of non-white bases are not welcoming to women's rights etc, but I was saying it's also a large amount of white people too, proving that the issue is not skin colour.

Point being, race has been brought up a lot in this whole chat over last few days.

I only ever disagree with principles, not white or black.

Although some might be anti-Jewish for opposing Israel in this war, that's their prerogative if they wish to have those beliefs.

I oppose their actions, as I oppose Hamas' and Iran's.

Basically I'm only ever looking for some sort of respite in this atrocious never-ending death arena.

Anyway, I've said my part. Let's all just hope for a positive outcome.
 
indianapalace85 said:
Because I'm saying a lot of angles, prejudices and ethnicities are being banded about by way of some sort of filtered anger.

If you genuinely don't like part of the Muslim culture then fair enough and that is yours to prejudice or criticise as you see fit.

I'm just against the use of bringing in ethnicities, which might also be Muslim, that may then feel the unfair wrath of someone else's loathing, just because they happen to be Muslim - but don't subscribe to a certain part of it.
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When the grooming gangs are named and shamed, their ethnicity is there for all to see, are you saying their mugshots/names should not be made public? Presumably the same should be said for the Southport rioters? if I’m one of the posters on here you believe to be racist, because of my views on certain matters, again, you have proved my previous point, you are way off the mark.
 
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