Iran

[Stirlingsays]

You just said I support a guy importing alphabet.

If you support the EU, then in effect you are doing that.

I obviously know you don't.

If you are right wing, then the EU is not your friend.....Orban literally supports pretty much all your social policies and has provided humanitarian aid to Hungary and taken its refugees, yet you call him a traitor because of a lost war you want to keep going.

What you are demonstrating is that you hate Russia more than you hate what the EU and their friends are doing to our kids and wasting the wealth of Europe.....and replacing its native population all at the same time.

I disagree with you......I don't have a problem with you being against Russia, however I think the priority is way off base.

I would rather it didn't occur, but it did and it wasn't us that caused it. I know what side I'm on, ours, and that means giving Ukraine old arms, selling arms to them and allies, building up our own strength and learning from techniques this war is exposing

There's a lot more too it than that.....Your position is the position that was sold to you via the media.

It has cost us dearly.....both financially and militarily (there is military who have died over there that the state hasn't been honest about).

Your position is also very old and the war in Ukraine has already been lost as I dip in and check out analysis nearly every day. Our policy has been a lose lose position that has extracted over ten billion from us.....That we won't get back by the way. Not only that but it will extract future billions from us in us having to support the future Ukraine......let alone the fact that it's wasted important military
assets.

You might support spending billions on foreign wars that only cost us.....and bring us zero positive outcomes.

I on the other hand do not.

If this were a business it would be insolvent.

But instead it's the taxpayer, which apparently is an endless resource......You need to pay my energy bill mate.....Because it's this policy that keeps it high....and it's about to go higher because of another pointless fecking war.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The US is preparing to seize Iran-related tankers in international waters in the coming days to expand its naval operation beyond the Middle East, writes The Wall Street Journal.

The American aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford entered the Red Sea accompanied by two destroyers.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

It was never likely to.
Iran has no intention of doing a deal and Trump knows it. You can't negotiate with these people.

Taqiyya - Wikipedia

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[Stirlingsays]

Taqiyya - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't disagree.....their moral code allows them to lie to non believers.....Some restrict it to times of wars and others don't.

However, Trump and the US have made countless deals with Islamic Arabs both in the past and present.....Saudi and Qatar and the UAE....He even had that 'former' ISIS chief terrorist leading Syria to the White House a little while ago.

Also, proud Englishman that I am, but I have to admit we have failed this test ourselves......As Lawrence attested to after WW1, we made deals with the Arabs and then promptly stabbed them in the back after the war.

I largely reject the leftist narrative about the British Empire being the devil, because compared to every other empire that ever existed we were probably the most benevolent.....No one slags off Mongolia yet any look at the history of the Mongol Empire and it's horrendous....they did nothing but exploit and destroy.....Yet no one says a word.

Much of the infrastructure both intellectual and physical that the British built in its empire is still being used within those countries today.....Long long after its projected lifetime because we were the best in the world at what we did.

All this gets ignored.....But they still use it.