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Stirlingsays said:
US airstrikes taking place against Tehran, the capital of Iran.

The 2 week ceasefire lasted 12 hours.
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The US is messing with them. There was not a chance in hell that either side would agree to a deal.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
The US is messing with them. There was not a chance in hell that either side would agree to a deal.
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The deal as revealed looked a non starter to me.

The west can't be held hostage over the strait over Donald's war.

Trump is in a difficult position of his own making....Nevertheless, I think Iran overplayed their hand.
 
Stirlingsays said:
The deal as revealed looked a non starter to me.

The west can't be held hostage over the strait over Donald's war.

Trump is in a difficult position of his own making....Nevertheless, I think Iran overplayed their hand.
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I don't think we would have ever called a war after a President before and I'm not going to start now.
America is looking after its own interests, something our useless politicians seem incapable of.
Iran has nothing to bargain with other than disrupting shipping and firing missiles at their neighbours. That capability must be destroyed.

Europe is making a huge mistake by not backing the US. They are clearly looking for an excuse to reduce their protection of Europe since Europe won't spend much money on its own defence. We are playing into their hands.

We could be looking at a new world order and our idiot leaders are trying their best to put us at the bottom of it.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
I don't think we would have ever called a war after a President before and I'm not going to start now.
America is looking after its own interests, something our useless politicians seem incapable of.
Iran has nothing to bargain with other than disrupting shipping and firing missiles at their neighbours. That capability must be destroyed.

Europe is making a huge mistake by not backing the US. They are clearly looking for an excuse to reduce their protection of Europe since Europe won't spend much money on its own defence. We are playing into their hands.

We could be looking at a new world order and our idiot leaders are trying their best to put us at the bottom of it.
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We aren't going to agree on this one mate.

America isn't looking after its interests at all.

It's looking after Israel's interests.

Iran was no threat to America.

America aren't backing out of Nato for three reasons mate, one they sell the Europeans their weapons and that would stop, second they would lose the client status of the Europeans and wouldn't be able to rely upon support in many many areas....it would hurt us and also them. Second, their bases in the region would have to go along with their influence and investment and lastly a diminished role in Europe would be taken by both Russia and China......Russia's cheap gas and Chinese investment.

Trump is all mouth and trousers on this one.....if he did pull out it would be performative, as the next president would just rejoin for the above reasons.

Europe did back America, we just aren't going to fight and die for Israel's war aims, especially when the war wasn't consulted with us and ends up costing us economically.

You think we should thanking Trump?
 
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Stirlingsays said:
We aren't going to agree on this one mate.

America isn't looking after its interests at all.

It's looking after Israel's interests.

Iran was no threat to America.

America aren't backing out of Nato for three reasons mate, one they sell the Europeans their weapons and that would stop, second they would lose the client status of the Europeans and wouldn't be able to rely upon support in many many areas....it would hurt us and also them. Second, their bases in the region would have to go along with their influence and investment and lastly a diminished role in Europe would be taken by both Russia and China......Russia's cheap gas and Chinese investment.

Trump is all mouth and trousers on this one.

Europe did back America, we just aren't going to fight and die for Israel's war aims, especially when the war wasn't consulted with us and ends up costing us economically.

You think we should thanking Trump?
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Isint that what allies do?
Surely then in WW2 the US should have left the allies (UK, france etc...) as Germany was really no threat to america?

Just interested in your opinion I havnt really made up my mind where I stand on this war.
 
eaglesdare said:
Isint that what allies do?
Surely then in WW2 the US should have left the allies (UK, france etc...) as Germany was really no threat to america?
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They did basically.

There was no popular support for joining the war in the US.

Japan attacked America at Pearl Harbour and America declared war on Germany's ally Japan......Germany then declared war on America.

eaglesdare said:
Just interested in your opinion I havnt really made up my mind where I stand on this war.
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Stand a little bit further to the right, it's always a better view. 🙂

It's a war in the middle east......I just look at how it effects me economically and of course I look at immigration factors.

There's the morality of it all of course but I've written on that many times and I just want cheaper energy at this point.
 
Stirlingsays said:
They did basically.

There was no popular support for joining the war in the US.

Japan attacked America at Pearl Harbour and America declared war on Germany's ally Japan......Germany then declared war on America.



Stand a little bit further to the right, it's always a better view. 🙂

It's a war in the middle east......I just look at how it effects me economically and of course I look at immigration factors.

There's the morality of it all of course but I've written on that many times and I just want cheaper energy at this point.
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Thanks for that. You are right. As always I value your opinion.

At this point I'm just hoping I don't get stuck in the fuel protests in dubin tomorrow morning and make my flight over for the game 😅
 
Stirlingsays said:
We aren't going to agree on this one mate.

America isn't looking after its interests at all.

It's looking after Israel's interests.

Iran was no threat to America.

America aren't backing out of Nato for three reasons mate, one they sell the Europeans their weapons and that would stop, second they would lose the client status of the Europeans and wouldn't be able to rely upon support in many many areas....it would hurt us and also them. Second, their bases in the region would have to go along with their influence and investment and lastly a diminished role in Europe would be taken by both Russia and China......Russia's cheap gas and Chinese investment.

Trump is all mouth and trousers on this one.....if he did pull out it would be performative, as the next president would just rejoin for the above reasons.

Europe did back America, we just aren't going to fight and die for Israel's war aims, especially when the war wasn't consulted with us and ends up costing us economically.

You think we should thanking Trump?
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I hope Trump is bluffing over NATO. I suspect he is but will see. It’s pressure for us to spend more and he is right. Russia just sailed a war ship through the English Channel unchallenged. That is a joke.

I think that protecting Israel is in America’s interests. It is a key ally in the region and that is reason enough. The risk Iran poses to world peace is a debatable subject. I think they would get nukes given time and then we have a problem. America didn’t keep us in the loop because they don’t trust us. Can you blame them? Our government is full of Islamist sympathisers.
 
Spindle said:
Ah, here we have the reason. I bet you weren't quite such a fan of Russia before then. I'm starting to think, what with your previous admittance from your service, that you're just easily led.
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Wrong again, I've always been a fan. Used to like Locomotive Moscow as a kid. In my opinion, being easily led would cause you to believe the fabricated nonsense narrative the BBC spews out every single day. Still, like I say, I'm not here to fall out with people, even if they do come the cvnt. You might be incapable of independent critical thinking but I'm not going to judge you for it. I try to respect all opinions on matter how wrong or bigoted they appear to me.
 
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