Interesting (?) Political stuff...

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Hull councillor's role 'untenable' after Nazi salute

Labour councillor Alan Gardiner apologised and said the gesture was "highly inappropriate".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Stirlingsays]

Hull councillor's role 'untenable' after Nazi salute

Labour councillor Alan Gardiner apologised and said the gesture was "highly inappropriate".

www.bbc.co.uk

It's the boomer obsession with 1933-45, they just can't move on....Everything is Churchill v Hitler.

It's 'Godwin's Law'.

 

[becky]

Hmmmm..... so the pensioners are a drain on society, but we are the group paying more tax than the under 60's

MSN

 

[Badger11]

Hmmmm..... so the pensioners are a drain on society, but we are the group paying more tax than the under 60's

MSN

No wonder politicians are against assisted suicide, and I thought it was out of their concern for human life. 😀

This plus a record number of people paying the highest rate of tax doesn't make good reading. Still the gravy train will go on for those on benefits and those at the top of society, the rest of us are just expected to pay for their lifestyle.

 

[Glazier#1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895229766376267989

Lol

Hilarious.

Is that what we're down to? Shutting people down in a public forum? If someone says something you don't want them to talk about, you just shut them down, instead of having those disagreements in private?

The difference between public state occasions like this and private discussion is obvious to anyone except those who perform like this and those that support them.

State visits are not the pub where people just shout each other down. I know, he wasn't actually shouted down but disrespectfully cut off. Messers Trump and Vance achieved the shouting down (and laying hands on!) with Zelensky.

It makes me so proud to be seeing people finding such joy in such behaviour.

But it's ok because it's Starmer; is that the gist?

Wonderful.

 

[DanH]

Hmmmm..... so the pensioners are a drain on society, but we are the group paying more tax than the under 60's

MSN

All this does is show how unequal the wealth is in this country. You have over 70s generating more income (and therefore tax revenues) from passive investments then an entire generation from working (or not working...)

That's not healthy for any economy.

 

[becky]

All this does is show how unequal the wealth is in this country. You have over 70s generating more income (and therefore tax revenues) from passive investments then an entire generation from working (or not working...)

That's not healthy for any economy.

Given the interest rates over the last few years, most of that tax will come from, in some cases, the State pension (contributed) and any other pensions that the payee may have accrued/paid for. Pension income of £1047.50 will put you into the tax bracket!

 

[Stirlingsays]

Hilarious.

Is that what we're down to? Shutting people down in a public forum? If someone says something you don't want them to talk about, you just shut them down, instead of having those disagreements in private?

The difference between public state occasions like this and private discussion is obvious to anyone except those who perform like this and those that support them.

State visits are not the pub where people just shout each other down. I know, he wasn't actually shouted down but disrespectfully cut off. Messers Trump and Vance achieved the shouting down (and laying hands on!) with Zelensky.

It makes me so proud to be seeing people finding such joy in such behaviour.

But it's ok because it's Starmer; is that the gist?

Wonderful.

It's like you have a passive aggressive degree or something.

Must have been brought up with sisters.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Hmmmm..... so the pensioners are a drain on society, but we are the group paying more tax than the under 60's

MSN

I wouldn't call pensioners a drain on society myself, they are our people.....Well, most of them.

An aging society is a success story.....What I'm far more criticial of is a generation of women who didn't do their biological jobs and have children and the culture that encouraged them not to........Governments who didn't help and enable birth rate replacement to happen.....total disaster.

The cultural shift from a duty to the next generation and instead towards the self wasn't just pulling the ladder up.....it was cutting it up and then burning it.

 

[Glazier#1]

It's like you have a passive aggressive degree or something.

Must have been brought up with sisters.

Haha.

Passive aggressive.

'Brought up by sisters'. What??!? Sorry, you'll have to explain that one.

So the problem is with those who oppose this behaviour rather than those who exhibit it?

Oh, I see. Of course.

So, do you support it, Lefty?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Haha.

Passive aggressive.

So the problem is with those who oppose this behaviour rather than those who exhibit it?

Oh, I see. Of course.

So, do you support it, Lefty?

I don't have a problem with you criticising Trump's lack of diplomacy on the world stage.

I was just noting the style of your posts.

 

[Glazier#1]

I don't have a problem with you criticising Trump's lack of diplomacy on the world stage.

I was just noting the style of your posts.

So, do you support it?

 

[Stirlingsays]

So, do you support it?

Well, I've previously criticised how the meeting between Zelensky and Trump played out.

While I have no issues with that kind of stuff behind closed doors I don't think it's fit for the world stage.

However, I'm not one for hyperbolic reactions as of course there has been a lot of that because the left are consumed with hatred for 'the Donald' and currently Musk.....even though Musk has done more for humanity that probably the sum total of most of them added together.

 

[Glazier#1]

Well, I've previously criticised how the meeting between Zelensky and Trump played out.

While I have no issues with that kind of stuff behind closed doors I don't think it's fit for the world stage.

However, I'm not one for hyperbolic reactions as of course there has been a lot of that because the left are consumed with hatred for 'the Donald' and currently Musk.....even though Musk has done more for humanity that probably the sum total of most of them added together.

Quite. We're in agreement, I see.

As for hyperbolic, I'm not following such rhetoric but would say that when I see that kind of behaviour played out on a world stage, I do shake my head and wonder where it will all end.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Quite. We're in agreement, I see.

As for hyperbolic, I'm not following such rhetoric but would say that when I see that kind of behaviour played out on a world stage, I do shake my head and wonder where it will all end.

A president is a role with expected public behaviours.

Trump is what he is.

He's only in power because the Democrats seemingly literally moved heaven and earth to make him their opponent.

 

[Glazier#1]

A president is a role with expected public behaviours.

Trump is what he is.

He's only in power because the Democrats seemingly literally moved heaven and earth to make him their opponent.

And what he is is roundly championed on these and many other right-leaning fora, no doubt.
And we can include the hilarious news channel, GB News, in that apparently. Another round of applause, I'm supposing, from many on here who are GBN fans.

 

[Stirlingsays]

And what he is is roundly championed on these and many other right-leaning fora, no doubt.
And we can include the hilarious news channel, GB News, in that apparently. Another round of applause, I'm supposing, from many on here who are GBN fans.

Well yeah....what else would you expect from people on the right?

I'm right wing, whereas Trump is more of a non woke neoliberal from the 80s/90s.....so it's not quite the same thing but a million miles closer than the alternatives.

 

[Glazier#1]

Well yeah....what else would you expect from people on the right?

I'm right wing, whereas Trump is more of a non woke neoliberal from the 80s/90s.....so it's not quite the same thing but a million miles closer than the alternatives.

Well, I'm obviously more to the left than many on here but I wouldn't consider it wrong to criticise the left if I thought they are wrong on something.

Why would I?

 

[ouzo]

All this does is show how unequal the wealth is in this country. You have over 70s generating more income (and therefore tax revenues) from passive investments then an entire generation from working (or not working...)

That's not healthy for any economy.

Did you not read ths part:

A rise in youth worklessness since the pandemic also means more young men and women are not even looking for work, with almost 1m 16 to 24-year-olds not in employment, education or training.

If the youth are not going to get jobs and pay taxes then the money to run the country needs to come from somewhere. Demonising old people, who have probably worked all their lives and saved, whilst ignoring the lazy in society is not heathly.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Did you not read ths part:

A rise in youth worklessness since the pandemic also means more young men and women are not even looking for work, with almost 1m 16 to 24-year-olds not in employment, education or training.

If the youth are not going to get jobs and pay taxes then the money to run the country needs to come from somewhere. Demonising old people, who have probably worked all their lives and saved, whilst ignoring the lazy in society is not heathly.

Why do you think the youth of today are less inclined to work than in previous generations?

What part of the post did you feel was 'demonising old people'?