Immigration

silvertop said:
Then leave

Send them back how? I agree. But ...

Only works if they leave voluntarily (we pay?) or the recipient country accepts them.
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Pay them off then. Take biometrics, retinal scan and dna. Never come back or you will go back to wince you came. Got to be cheaper. Rwanda had a 2 or 3 year house and benefits for the few who went.
Wasn’t mentioned much though.
 
Spindle said:
It was never meant to be for that though, it was meant to be actual Europeans, and that was real freedom
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A non-EU national who gained entry into an EU country could move within further EU countries without any documentation check.
A non-EU national who required a visa for entry into Schengen could apply to any EU embassy. If the visa was issued they could enter at any point in the EU. For example a person could be issued a visa by the Portuguese for entry into Greece, it was a generic visa. So in this example the Portuguese were deciding who could enter Greece.
 

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cryrst said:
Pay them off then. Take biometrics, retinal scan and dna. Never come back or you will go back to wince you came. Got to be cheaper. Rwanda had a 2 or 3 year house and benefits for the few who went.
Wasn’t mentioned much though.
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It is what Alfred did with the Danes, and what Charlemagne did with them too. The trouble is it doesn't work unless you are able to deport them the moment they arrive again. I wouldn't even pay them off, I'd illegally land them in southern France but I imagine our Navy is beyond useless atm the moment - more Admirals that vessels.

It sickens me the ID and proof I have to give when travelling, the facial recognition and biometrics, and I pay for it all, yet they don't even get registered. Arriving without ID and they don't even take their finger prints!
 
Spiderman said:
A non-EU national who gained entry into an EU country could move within further EU countries without any documentation check.
A non-EU national who required a visa for entry into Schengen could apply to any EU embassy. If the visa was issued they could enter at any point in the EU. For example a person could be issued a visa by the Portuguese for entry into Greece, it was a generic visa. So in this example the Portuguese were deciding who could enter Greece.
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Yes, but that's a consequence of local immigration not of Schengen. As a European I loved the right, the option, to be able to live and work anywhere in Europe. What is the USA? That's no different, similar size, similar population, using the same currency and Federal laws but with local state laws and no passport controls internally. For all the American advocates of a broken Europe I wonder how they'd feel if they were suddenly told that interstate travel was revoked. It is the same concept entirely that the EU wanted to copy.
 
Spindle said:
Yes, but that's a consequence of local immigration not of Schengen. As a European I loved the right, the option, to be able to live and work anywhere in Europe. What is the USA? That's no different, similar size, similar population, using the same currency and Federal laws but with local state laws and no passport controls internally. For all the American advocates of a broken Europe I wonder how they'd feel if they were suddenly told that interstate travel was revoked. It is the same concept entirely that the EU wanted to copy.
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Indeed but Schengen allowed undocumented/unwanted foreign to roam throughout Europe, unchecked
 
Spindle said:
It is what Alfred did with the Danes, and what Charlemagne did with them too. The trouble is it doesn't work unless you are able to deport them the moment they arrive again. I wouldn't even pay them off, I'd illegally land them in southern France but I imagine our Navy is beyond useless atm the moment - more Admirals that vessels.

It sickens me the ID and proof I have to give when travelling, the facial recognition and biometrics, and I pay for it all, yet they don't even get registered. Arriving without ID and they don't even take their finger prints!
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I agree but all arrivals get fingerprinted
 
African migrants sleeping rough on Ceuta’s beaches,

Where's all the leftist NPCs repeating the lies from their media figures that 98 percent of all the migrants had gone back so that there was nothing to see?
 

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Stirlingsays said:
African migrants sleeping rough on Ceuta’s beaches,

Where's all the leftist NPCs repeating the lies from their media figures that 98 percent of all the migrants had gone back so that there was nothing to see?
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Knew it was total bollocks. Totally ruined what I presume used to be a lovely place to live, it looks like Somalia these days. How thoroughly depressing...
 
Serco isn't even public, it's a private company.

They just aren't on our side are they, and they are provoking the people more and more.
 
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