Immigration

Even though I was born in England and have a white wife, I think I'm in trouble:

Polish father

Italian grandfather

Oh dear.....

Na....you're mixed aren't you.

You could be on our side but you just decided to not be....plenty of Poles and Italians and mixed and even some non natives are.

Unfortunately we are stuck with you.
 
You never know, I might be all right. I am white.

Does that let me off the hook or am I still undesiriable to the Restore brigade?

We note the desire for the far left to quickly move on from the disfiguring of a special needs lad by a member of their protected class......and the desire to focus upon the reaction to it.

Your politics created this....not ours.
 
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When innocent people are being burnt out their homes are you really surprised, Ted?

Why are these reactions only when ‘immigrants’ (Henry Nowak’s murderer wasn’t even an immigrant) commit crimes and not when the hundreds of others happen?
No one died did they. The bloke on telly wasn’t overly bothered about the house it wasn’t his. He was more sad about his photos. He has a memory but the nowaks lost a son !
 
Even though I was born in England and have a white wife, I think I'm in trouble:

Polish father

Italian grandfather

Oh dear.....

Funnily enough nobody has an issue with the Polish or the Italians. You knew that already though.
 
No one died did they. The bloke on telly wasn’t overly bothered about the house it wasn’t his. He was more sad about his photos. He has a memory but the nowaks lost a son !

Wow, what a post. Sure you’d be fine with someone burning your house down as long as you didn’t die.
 

Three jailed for violence at Henry Nowak police protest​


Marcus White, Reporting from Southampton Crown Court and Curtis Lancaster, Southampton
    • Published
      15 minutes ago
Three men have been jailed for violent disorder at a protest in Southampton following the murder of Henry Nowak.

Darren Medhurst, 36 of Carnation Road, Southampton was jailed for three years and three months, while Callum Darch, 27, of St Blaize Road, Romsey and Harley Haynes, 23, of Avenue Road, Southampton received two-and-a-half year sentences.

A total of 12 people have so far been sentenced over the disorder during which 12 police officers and a police dog were injured.

The protest on 2 June took place after police bodycam footage was released showing Nowak, 18, handcuffed as he lay dying after being stabbed by Vickrum Digwa, 23, who was jailed for life with a minimum term of 21 years.
A row of police wearing protective riot uniform, including helmets and shields, as red smoke fills the background.
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Police were pelted with missiles in the clashes on 2 June
Passing sentence at Southampton Crown Court, Judge William Mousley KC said: "Local residents were subjected to fear, distress and a genuine sense of danger."

Mousley, who had also precided over Digwa's trial, repeated his conclusion from previous hearings that the violence was "hate crime, borne out of a hatred of the police and in some cases racist views".

Prosecutor Edward Culver told the court Darren Medhurst had played a "leading role" in the disorder, throwing two items at police and lighting a burning bin that was propelled towards officers.

His sentence of three years and three months is a month more than the previous longest sentence passed over the disorder.

The court heard that Medhurst, had 51 previous convictions for 96 offences, including handling stolen goods, burglary and shoplifting.

Harley Haynes was shown in video footage with a black hood over his head.

The court was told he threw a number of objects including a brick and several pieces of glass.

One piece hit a lamppost and shattered, showering people with glass, the prosecution said.

Haynes had nine convictions for 21 offences including theft, criminal damage and supplying cannabis.

His defence argued that his involvement in the protests was "a one-off - an impulsive decision".

Callum Darch threw a wheelie bin at police officers, the court heard.

Culver explained how it was "targeted directly at the police" and how the action inflamed and encouraged others in the crowd.
A mid shot of police in protective riot uniform, including helmets and shields. There is a flaming bin in the background.
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The prosecution said Darren Medhurst lit the burning bin that was propelled towards the police
Kamil Josef Klonek of Lordswood Road, Southampton, became the first of the 21 defendants facing charges following the protest to plead not guilty.

Prosecutor Culver said Klonek was filmed in the "centre of the disturbance, chanting at police" and throwing a beer can.

The 33-year-old was refused bail and was remanded in custody. A trial date was fixed for 30 November.

The sentencing of Tyler Burley, 18, of Shakespeare Road in Southampton, was adjourned until 30 June for a pre-sentence report to be prepared. He previously pleaded guilty to violent disorder.
A composite image of five custody shots and an image of a police line at a protest with red smoke around them
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Clockwise from top: Daniel Frost, Andrew Summerhayes, Reece Robinson, Taylor Grundy and Dillon Crawford were sentenced on Wednesday
The prosecution read statements from police officers who were at the scene, with one officer saying those taking part were "acting like it was some kind of party or blood sport".

Another said he was aware that officers have received threats which have made them concerned for their safety.

A third spoke of his fear that someone was going to be killed at the disturbance.
Two mugshots of Connor Bishop (on the left) and Leon O'Leary. They are both looking at the camera. Conner has short brown hair while O'Leary is bald with a shaggy grey beard,'Leary. They are both looking at the camera. Conner has short brown hair while O'Leary is bald with a shaggy grey beard,
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Connor Bishop (left) and Leon O'Leary were sentenced on Tuesday for their part in the disorder
Five men were jailed on Wednesday:

  • Daniel Frost, 44, of Southampton, for two years and four months
  • Reece Robinson, 21, of Havant, for two-years
  • Taylor Grundy, 22, of Gosport, for two and a half years
  • Andrew Summerhayes, 38, of Romsey, for three years and two months
  • Dillon Crawford, 29, of Southampton, for three-years
On Tuesday, Connor Bishop, 24, was sentenced to two years and eight months and Leon O'Leary, 41, was jailed for three years and one month.
Protest outside police station in Southampton following conviction of Vikrum Digwa for murder of Henry Nowak, in Southampton
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Victim personal statements from police officers were read out in court
The court heard previously that the disorder had cost police £443,000 for staffing and accommodation, while Southampton City Council had paid £6,700 in clean-up costs.

A total of 21 people, have been charged in connection with the incident, which initially saw crowds demonstrating outside the city centre police station, before gathering close to the Digwa family home.

Digwa stabbed Nowak with a large blade in December 2025, which he said he carried on grounds of his Sikh faith, then lied to police at the scene, falsely claiming he was the victim of a racist attack. It lead officers to arrest Nowak instead of his killer.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has since launched an investigation into the force's response.
A young man smiling wearing a white shirt and a blue tie. He is sitting in front of a green bush. He has brown hair.

Image caption,
Henry Nowak's family were said to be "disappointed" to see the protests

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But still no condemnation of his murder by Herr Epsom
 
Wow, what a post. Sure you’d be fine with someone burning your house down as long as you didn’t die.
I’m insured so really don’t care. If this fella had a brain he would have insurance. But yes if no one dies I don’t give a toss. Lost a property before so no big deal. If you are materialistic like you danh I feel so sorry that it’s your life.
 
I’m insured so really don’t care. If this fella had a brain he would have insurance. But yes if no one dies I don’t give a toss. Lost a property before so no big deal. If you are materialistic like you danh I feel so sorry that it’s your life.

You are right. Homes have insurance and can be rebuilt, possession can be bought again but a life lost cannot be replaced, like Henry Nowak or the man who was almost decapitated, who as I understand has now lost one eye and potential to loose another while still in critical condition.
 
I’m insured so really don’t care. If this fella had a brain he would have insurance. But yes if no one dies I don’t give a toss. Lost a property before so no big deal. If you are materialistic like you danh I feel so sorry that it’s your life.

The mental gymnastics you lot are displaying to try and justify this is astounding 🤣🤣🤣
 
I didn't say immigration is always economically beneficial or that numbers can rise forever. I said reducing immigration to pre-1960s levels feels unrealistic and would likely come with major economic consequences.

The UK today isn't the UK of 1960 - we have an older population, lower birth rates, and entire sectors that are structurally reliant on migrant labour and migrant taxpayers. You can absolutely argue those sectors should adapt, but adaptation isn't free, and it certainly isn't quick. We already have failing public services and public sector vacancies in just about every area.

Even if net migration at very high levels has diminishing returns, that doesn't mean nearly eliminating it improves outcomes.

By the same logic, because unlimited taxation is unsustainable, we shouldn't bother taxing anyone.

You must've missed my post on robotics and AI. Japan and Poland will be well set up to have their manual low grade jobs done by AI Bots, and be looked after with highly innovative systems, whilst Europe writhes in this self inflicted disaster.

It's stunning that you still have belief that we're being enriched by this wave of useless 3rd World and or culturally incompatible group of people and it's PROVEN that the net cost, not gain, COST is averaged at £110,000 per immigrant.
 
The mental gymnastics you lot are displaying to try and justify this is astounding 🤣🤣🤣
Ahh now you are wissyng.
Twisting it because not one poster has justified the house fire. I will be surprised if you find the posts and put them up please. Posters have said that anger over a near murder by an immigrant on the streets is understandable. With very bad reactions which are understandable as well imho. A car set on fire ignited the house. A myth busters moment as it’s a 1 in a thousand chance for that to happen I would have thought. Any way back to you and the posts justifying the house fire please.
Burning Cars and Belfast go hand in hand and tbh they are in IRA and UDF territory so a few more f*** ups by immigrants and the guns may come out of hiding !!!
 
You must've missed my post on robotics and AI. Japan and Poland will be well set up to have their manual low grade jobs done by AI Bots, and be looked after with highly innovative systems, whilst Europe writhes in this self inflicted disaster.

It's stunning that you still have belief that we're being enriched by this wave of useless 3rd World and or culturally incompatible group of people and it's PROVEN that the net cost, not gain, COST is averaged at £110,000 per immigrant.
Every one could have their own plane and a few quid to f*** off. It would be cheaper.
 
Do you condemn foreigners being forced into communities who were never asked?
This is true.

What did the polls show about the public's opinion about mass immigration in UK during the 1970s?

Opinion polls in the 1970s consistently showed that the majority of the British public held restrictive views on immigration, viewing it as one of the most pressing national issues. Major surveys from the era provide a specific breakdown of public sentiment: [1, 2, 3]
  • Desire for Restriction: A large majority of voters supported limiting or halting the inflow of immigrants. For example, studies from that period frequently recorded upwards of 70% of respondents in favor of either drastically reducing or entirely stopping further immigration. [1, 2, 3]

We never even asked for this... 70% is an overwhelming majority. Of course the government being the self serving arseholes that they are decided to force it through. Not outside their doorstep though, mind you. As we saw with Green Party deputy Rachel Millward's response to a migrant hotel being designated in her quaint little town.
 

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