Immigration

[Wisbech Eagle]

I don't know are you? Is your parent or a grandparent an immigrant?

I'm an immigrant and I'm a second generation immigrant. I don't go around stabbing people or raping them. Do you?

I already told you that my grandmother was French. So does that mean I am a third generation immigrant. If you are a second generation immigrant do either of us, or the murderer, deserve to be regarded in any way differently to other British born citizens?

If some do, and some don’t please explain why. Anyone who stabs or rapes, whatever their status, must be condemned.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

They can hardly keep a straight face. Clearly no concern at all for the dead boy. Only concerned with the continuous push of their agenda.

The BBC will not be lasting long. This agenda will vastly accelerate their demise. The licence fee is untenable and tax rises will not be popular.

Farage lied. As did everyone who misrepresented what they were quoting. That was enough to wind people up to mindlessly protest and cause disruption in a community still coming to terms with an awful event.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The human rights lawyers will love all that. All Sir Keir's ex-colleagues will be rubbing their hands together.

They might but the law is the law. Make it law and it would be done..

For me this would be tacking the real problem and not creating divisions.

 

[georgenorman]

I already told you that my grandmother was French. So does that mean I am a third generation immigrant. If you are a second generation immigrant do either of us, or the murderer, deserve to be regarded in any way differently to other British born citizens?

If some do, and some don’t please explain why. Anyone who stabs or rapes, whatever their status, must be condemned.

Yet the police advice to their officers is do exactly that.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Police anti-racism commitment 'gives the wrong impression', minister says

The Independent Office for Police Conduct's is reviewing a guidance document from the National Police Chiefs' Council.

www.bbc.com

They are still f***ing gas lighting everyone. A couple of points I want to state categorically.

The Judge is completely wrong in making any statement about what may or may not have happened to Nowak had help arrived earlier or had he been treated differently. A full autopsy and coroner's report would be required and only a properly qualified medical professional could make that judgement. It could still be refuted by another medical professional even then. That is so incorrect that the judge should be sanctioned for it - publicly.

Second point. BBC are using Nowak's death to continue to push their agenda. Half way through they discuss what black people think of the police. How is that any less "divisive" than anything else? This is somehow relevant to what black people think of the police? I'm incredulous at the complete disregard for balance and even reality here. And everyone - left or right, black or white or whatever - should be too.

Actually insane reporting and ridiculous cover up attempting already.

The coroner has announced that there will be a full inquest.

He also said that the autopsy showed that Nowak could not have survived whatever emergency medical assistance was given to him. I expect the Judge knew that too, hence his words.

 

[eaglesdare]

I already told you that my grandmother was French. So does that mean I am a third generation immigrant. If you are a second generation immigrant do either of us, or the murderer, deserve to be regarded in any way differently to other British born citizens?

If some do, and some don’t please explain why. Anyone who stabs or rapes, whatever their status, must be condemned.

Henry Nowak was treated differently.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Why is this associate of a money-grabbing criminal being granted residency in London.? Surely as the prime advocate of an Independent Scotland, she should welcome the chance to be amongst friends north of the border ? Wee Jimmy Krankie seems a bit camera-shy from her heyday in the 1980's.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So why is he allowed a knife then. I’m British and if I became sikh would I be allowed to carry one for my beliefs ?
Maybe we should all covert just to test it out 🤣

At the moment you would. It’s wrong and needs to be changed.

There should be no exceptions of any kind to the need to abide by the law because of a religious belief. The law comes first.

 

[beak]

Why is this associate of a money-grabbing criminal being granted residency in London.? Surely as the prime advocate of an Independent Scotland, she should welcome the chance to be amongst friends north of the border ? Wee Jimmy Krankie seems a bit camera-shy from her heyday in the 1980's.

Did she arrive on an inflatable rubber dinghy?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

But it isn’t irrelevant is it? His ethnicity was very much to the fore as to how the police handled thus situation. A fact, which no doubt you will dispute, but when proved to be true, I doubt you will admit you were wrong

When it very clearly hasn’t been “proved to be true” then of course it’s disputed. There’s no evidence at all that ethnicity played any role in why the officers decided to believe the perpetrators rather than the victim. You are making assumptions. Just as they did.

 

[georgenorman]

Enoch Powell in 1968 describing what he perceived to be the evolving position of the White British population:

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions. …. The discrimination and the deprivation, the sense of alarm and of resentment, lies not with the immigrant population but with those among whom they have come and are still coming. This is why to enact legislation of the kind before parliament at this moment is to risk throwing a match on to gunpowder.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Henry Nowak was treated differently.

He was treated incorrectly by officers who believed lies.

Not differently. He was the victim of an appalling attack, made worse by the deliberate misrepresentations of the perpetrator and his family and the inappropriate response of the police officers attending the call.

We have learned today that he could not have survived whatever emergency treatment had been given. Which, whilst not excusing the behaviour of either the perpetrators or the police, might be of some small comfort to his family.

 

[georgenorman]

He was treated incorrectly by officers who believed lies.

Not differently. He was the victim of an appalling attack, made worse by the deliberate misrepresentations of the perpetrator and his family and the inappropriate response of the police officers attending the call.

We have learned today that he could not have survived whatever emergency treatment had been given. Which, whilst not excusing the behaviour of either the perpetrators or the police, might be of some small comfort to his family.

It is laughable if you are suggesting that, had the Sikh been the one who was stabbed and the whiteman claiming racial abuse, the police would have acted in the same way.

 

[eaglesdare]

He was treated incorrectly by officers who believed lies.

Not differently. He was the victim of an appalling attack, made worse by the deliberate misrepresentations of the perpetrator and his family and the inappropriate response of the police officers attending the call.

We have learned today that he could not have survived whatever emergency treatment had been given. Which, whilst not excusing the behaviour of either the perpetrators or the police, might be of some small comfort to his family.

"I don't think he was, mate"

 

[Badger11]

Why is this associate of a money-grabbing criminal being granted residency in London.? Surely as the prime advocate of an Independent Scotland, she should welcome the chance to be amongst friends north of the border ? Wee Jimmy Krankie seems a bit camera-shy from her heyday in the 1980's.

From what I have read she is trying to re-launch her career as pundit, commentator and general turn up to the opening of an envelope (we know what that colour that is).

I guess she assumed that lefty London would be the place to do that, although I think she is now toxic so hopefully will just disappear from public view. After all what is her expertise for the woman once called "The canniest politician in the UK"

Failed in her prime objective, independence. Failed to govern Scotland properly, all the key factors got worse under her, and now accused of turning a blind eye to skulduggery.

I suppose if you want lessons in failure she's your man / woman / whatever.

 

[Spiderman]

No we don’t. This place is a hive of prejudice and bigotry.

You mean people have an opinion that is different to yours? Look in a mirror and you will see the person on here who defends the indefensible, just to troll?

 

[eaglesdare]

Surrey university plunged into terror as Saudi ex-student 'shoots man with crossbow'

The victim in a 'serious condition' at the Royal Surrey County Hospital

www.gbnews.com

Surrey university plunged into terror as Saudi ex-student 'shoots man with crossbow'

 

[Spiderman]

When it very clearly hasn’t been “proved to be true” then of course it’s disputed. There’s no evidence at all that ethnicity played any role in why the officers decided to believe the perpetrators rather than the victim. You are making assumptions. Just as they did.

No assumption on my part, again, in this case, I think you find I am correct, I said he was dragged through gravel which you disputed. Have you watched the news? Their training has been very much to treat ethnic minorities in a more lenient way….fact

 

[Spiderman]

He was treated incorrectly by officers who believed lies.

Not differently. He was the victim of an appalling attack, made worse by the deliberate misrepresentations of the perpetrator and his family and the inappropriate response of the police officers attending the call.

We have learned today that he could not have survived whatever emergency treatment had been given. Which, whilst not excusing the behaviour of either the perpetrators or the police, might be of some small comfort to his family.

Jeez 😳

 

[Spiderman]

From what I have read she is trying to re-launch her career as pundit, commentator and general turn up to the opening of an envelope (we know what that colour that is).

I guess she assumed that lefty London would be the place to do that, although I think she is now toxic so hopefully will just disappear from public view. After all what is her expertise for the woman once called "The canniest politician in the UK"

Failed in her prime objective, independence. Failed to govern Scotland properly, all the key factors got worse under her, and now accused of turning a blind eye to skulduggery.

I suppose if you want lessons in failure she's your man / woman / whatever.

But she is white