Immigration

Spindle said:
He's a liberal left winger. May as well be written by you.
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Teen and woman die as small boat carrying 80 migrants 'runs aground' while trying to reach Britain
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They don't seem to be trying very hard to stop them leaving France.

I don't know why they are leaving France; I was thinking about going there on holiday in the future.

The ironic thing is, we speak out against boat crossings; but the libtards want them.

The result is death on the way and crime on arrival.
 
Mattconrov said:
Far right agitators exist for sure. Nasty sods who want trouble. They may have contributed to the problem in Epsom.

They are however a small minority.

The constant condescending and lying liberals and virtue signalling politicians, media, police etc, are the major contributors to the problems we have on our streets - along obviously with the people committing the crimes.

Most people can see demographically who is committing the crimes in their area.

When you have undocumented migrants who may be criminals, this seeds unrest and fear.

The unrest wasn't magically put there by far right agitators. It was there in the first place.

Because of the recent history with migrant crime, it's not a surprise that people will act without thinking. They have been pushed to the limits emotionally.

looking towards the far right as a cause and not a symptom is a dead end, if we truly want to make our streets safer.

The independent reporters words will become a self fulfilling prophecy if we continue to blame the far right.
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Being concerned about the way illegal immigration is happening, how we, in common with others, have struggled to find solutions and how those arriving are accommodated and behave is perfectly legitimate. Having debates, expressing opinions and even protesting are all a rightful part of our democracy.

Responding to a non event such as that in Epsom and harassing the police as they try to do their duty is not. That unrest was created by the actions of far right agitators and there is no excusing it. It must be condemned by all, whatever genuine concerns they might have.

So the Independent is right.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Being concerned about the way illegal immigration is happening, how we, in common with others, have struggled to find solutions and how those arriving are accommodated and behave is perfectly legitimate. Having debates, expressing opinions and even protesting are all a rightful part of our democracy.

Responding to a non event such as that in Epsom and harassing the police as they try to do their duty is not. That unrest was created by the actions of far right agitators and there is no excusing it. It must be condemned by all, whatever genuine concerns they might have.

So the Independent is right.
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I think I addressed the independent piece in a balanced way and addressed many of the things you've mentioned.

However I suggest that you try and understand how some of the people in Epsom felt emotionally.

There was a time not so long ago that a situation like this would have been widely ignored. I've mentioned a few times of a near exact case in my home village of Merstham from around 4 years ago.

The people who protested have like many of us turned a blind eye to problems that needed addressing; in part because they were probably scared of being called racist - but we now have the boiling frog analogy.

The heat was not so bad for the frog a few years ago. Now the Frog is boiling and jumping around.

I guess the war in Rawanda didn't happen overnight. There was a history to it.

Foreign and their own government creating the ground for conflict.

Those people carved up each other based on other people's lies. How many people will die here because of meddling government's and their agenda'

The far right are the symptom not the cause.

People are long past wanting debates; they want action.
 
The big concern is not just the far right continually lying it is the long term damage done to the trading of Epsom's shops over a non event ,like Croydon's riot these things have dire consequences and businesses invest somewhere else, Wetherspoons closed pubs in the area the appropriately named Ship of Fools and the Skylark both closed.
 
Mattconrov said:
www.samsung-news.com

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Teen and woman die as small boat carrying 80 migrants 'runs aground' while trying to reach Britain
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They don't seem to be trying very hard to stop them leaving France.

I don't know why they are leaving France; I was thinking about going there on holiday in the future.

The ironic thing is, we speak out against boat crossings; but the libtards want them.

The result is death on the way and crime on arrival.
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Two women drowned on a boat full of men? I wonder what happened?
 
beak said:
The big concern is not just the far right continually lying it is the long term damage done to the trading of Epsom's shops over a non event ,like Croydon's riot these things have dire consequences and businesses invest somewhere else, Wetherspoons closed pubs in the area the appropriately named Ship of Fools and the Skylark both closed.
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We will never hear the end,that the liberal asylum loving people were right over epsom.

For the most part they are wrong about every other event.

Exactly how much damage do these protests do.

During the countrywide riots in 2011; attributed to the shooting of a dodgy character; were they all far right agitators?

The blm protests here and in the USA. They caused damage and injury and death to the police. We're they far right?

To blame Croydons problems on the riots in 2011 is a bit laughable mate. I wonder if you have evidence that they closed down due to the riots. If you have fair enough
 
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