Immigration

[Spiderman]

Not really though, is it?

You lot frothing at the bits and people out on the streets for something that never happened because you thought immigrants were involved.

White bloke rapes an immigrant woman and gets sent down and tumbleweed.

Supposed to care about woman and girls. You don’t give a f*ck about them as the other threads show on here. Only the perpetrators and only to try and justify your politics.

Where the f*** has this come from? Absolutely outrageous comment. Many on here have shown sympathy to the victims and outrage on their behalf ( well someone had to). Sorry if the fact that, they also felt outrage at the fact that the majority of perpetrators were Asian and the fact the authorities chose to turn a blind eye for years.

 

[DanH]

You cared so much about it you said absolutely nothing about it other than side with your landlord mate who defended the Police response, which saw tens of thousands of white and some sikkn girls raped for decades.

You never criticised him.

You never challenged him.

The truth is revealed in action, not words.

You know what I've never done? Been on the side that enabled tens of thousands of girls raped and then done everything it could to ignore it.

You sided with the people who called 'racist' when people 'challenged' the institutions.

You think you're a good person.

I don't.....I would never support a side like that.

Find a post where I’m ‘on the side that enabled tens of thousands of girls raped’ or delete that and apologise you sick f*ck.

 

[DanH]

Where the f*** has this come from? Absolutely outrageous comment. Many on here have shown sympathy to the victims and outrage on their behalf ( well someone had to). Sorry if the fact that, they also felt outrage at the fact that the majority of perpetrators were Asian and the fact the authorities chose to turn a blind eye for years.

If they did there would be a proportionate number of threads and posts about similar crimes committed by white people, wouldn’t there?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Find a post where I’m ‘on the side that enabled tens of thousands of girls raped’ or delete that and apologise you sick f*ck.

You said nothing over years of the topic on here but you certainly defended your landlord mate.

Your silence said it all.

You slag off people for saying nothing without even having the IQ to realise your own behaviour.

You defended your mate, who defended the Police.

You never said one word against his posts.....years it went on...Not one fecking word.

You deserve all the criticism you get.

 

[Spiderman]

If they did there would be a proportionate number of threads and posts about similar crimes committed by white people, wouldn’t there?

Do the authorities knowingly turn a blind eye to similar crimes committed by “white” people ( Wisbech won’t like that phrase 🤣).

 

[Stirlingsays]

Not every progressive enabled the rape of tens of thousands of working class white girls.....this is true.
But it was only the progressives and social liberals who, either deliberately or through stupidity or ignorance, enabled it......they fill the institutions and organisations that have been criticised.

The 'far right' who they hate so much, would have never let it happen.

It took them.

 

[DanH]

You said nothing over years of the topic on here but you certainly defended your landlord mate.

Your silence said it all.

You slag off people for saying nothing without even having the IQ to realise your own behaviour.

You defended your mate, who defended the Police.

You never said one word against his posts.....years it went on...Not one fecking word.

You deserve all the criticism you get.

Delete and apologise please. Absolutely sick to make the claim you’ve now made twice.

 

[DanH]

Do the authorities knowingly turn a blind eye to similar crimes committed by “white” people ( Wisbech won’t like that phrase 🤣).

Yes. The rape and sexual assault convictions are disgracefully low for all demographics.

You only have to see the attitudes towards people like Andrew Tate, Russell Brand and Conor McGregor on here to see how little people actually care about these crimes.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Delete and apologise please. Absolutely sick to make the claim you’ve now made twice.

I will say that I don't think you support what happened. So if that's your impression I'm ok with clarifying that. I can't help if you get faulty impressions. As that's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is that this topic went on for years on the forum and you said nothing against the defence of the Police by Wisbech. In fact all you have done is defend the guy.

 

[Stirlingsays]

If they did there would be a proportionate number of threads and posts about similar crimes committed by white people, wouldn’t there?

Those white people weren't being defended by a conspiracy of silence by a community.

Those white people weren't being allowed to continue doing what they were doing for decades.....because...it appears mainly from of the fear of claims of racism from left wing activists.

Those white people were rightly being convicted as every rapist should be.

No one has been convicted for the enablement by a system that was meant to protect these girls but instead even went as far as to arrest fathers.

I and others have been criticizing that for many years on this forum.

 

[beak]

Yes. The rape and sexual assault convictions are disgracefully low for all demographics.

You only have to see the attitudes towards people like Andrew Tate, Russell Brand and Conor McGregor on here to see how little people actually care about these crimes.

I'm very surprised that Yaxley -Lennon and the neo Nazis haven't been marching/ rioting over the punishment rape of a sikh woman by a racist white piece of trash after the Epsom fake rape you would think they would like to not miss an opportunity to protect women or do they only tackle poltergeists?

 

[DanH]

Those white people weren't being defended by a conspiracy of silence by a community.

Those white people weren't being allowed to continue doing what they were doing for decades.....because...it appears mainly from of the fear of claims of racism from left wing activists.

Those white people were rightly being convicted as every rapist should be.

No one has been convicted for the enablement by a system that was meant to protect these girls but instead even went as far as to arrest fathers.

I and others have been criticizing that for many years on this forum.

I’m sure you as well as everyone else are looking forward to Russell Brand finally facing justice then.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yes. The rape and sexual assault convictions are disgracefully low for all demographics.

You only have to see the attitudes towards people like Andrew Tate, Russell Brand and Conor McGregor on here to see how little people actually care about these crimes.

You want us to say people are rapists when the law hasn't?

Brand has been criticised for his past behaviour, even by himself....but a rapist? I don't believe it personally.
Tate? Could be, but no court has convicted him and what evidence is there? If he was raping people why wasn't he arrested at the time....He wasn't a stranger to any of those girls.

McGregor? I believe the case against him was politically motivated. But if he's a rapist why isn't he behind bars.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I’m sure you as well as everyone else are looking forward to Russell Brand finally facing justice then.

I honesty don't believe he's ever raped anyone.

I do believe that you get some weird situations, but a rapist?

I don't defend the extent of Brand's behaviour in the 90s and 00s, when he was a lefty libertine....because I'm a social conservative....I'm culturally against the excess.....But I don't think it makes him a criminal....Social Conservativism is mostly about what the culture supports and promotes.....Not about controlling their lives in most aspects.

Personally I think if someone's been raped they go to the Police.

That didn't happen.....and he bedded thousands of females.....So forgive me if I have serious doubts over it.

 

[DanH]

I honesty don't believe he's ever raped anyone.

I do believe that you get some weird situations, but a rapist?

I don't defend the extent of Brand's behaviour in the 90s and 00s, when he was a lefty libertine....because I'm a social conservative....I'm culturally against the excess.....But I don't think it makes him a criminal....Social Conservativism is mostly about what the culture supports and promotes.....Not about controlling their lives in most aspects.

Personally I think if someone's been raped they go to the Police.

That didn't happen.....and he bedded thousands of females.....So forgive me if I have serious doubts over it.

If you really care about women and girls as much as you profess to do you will be fully aware why many, many victims do not go to the police.

The distressing truth is that if you are raped in Britain today, your chances of seeing justice are slim - Victims Commissioner

This article was first featured in Dame Vera Baird’s 2021/22 Annual Report, published on 21 June 2021. In my first

victimscommissioner.org.uk

And Russell Brand is facing charges from 6 different women. Who all went to the Police. But sure, you believe him over them and keep showing how much you really care for women and girls.

 

[Stirlingsays]

If you really care about women and girls as much as you profess to do you will be fully aware why many, many victims do not go to the police.

I care about actual rape.

You care about claims as well as rape......I view claims as....what they are, a claim, not different to any other serious accusation.

If someone accused you of rape I'm pretty sure you'd want people to want proof.....other than someone saying you did it.....Or are you suggesting that you should be convicted purely on the accusation?

The distressing truth is that if you are raped in Britain today, your chances of seeing justice are slim - Victims Commissioner

This article was first featured in Dame Vera Baird’s 2021/22 Annual Report, published on 21 June 2021. In my first

victimscommissioner.org.uk

I'm pretty sure this isn't objective....for example, what are the stats for rape convictions when the woman goes to the Police straight after it happens.

I bet it isn't as low as that......But rape is a crime behind doors, you seeming to think it should have similar rates of conviction to other crimes is a bit....well, unrealistic.

If you haven't gone to the Police, but decide to much later on.....Are you suggesting that people should be convicted, when there could be fall outs and maliciousness, drugs and many other reasons for an accusation.....Or are you saying we should just convict.

And Russell Brand is facing charges from 6 different women. Who all went to the Police.

When did they go to the Police and what evidence was there?

But sure, you believe him over them and keep showing how much you really care for women and girls.

Dan....I tend to believe people are guilty of crimes once a court has fairly convicted them.

You on the other hand....

Are we going to jail celebrities for all the groupies they shagged?.....I'm pretty sure McCartney, Jagger and about most of entertainment industry anyone knows about would be in jail.

Are they all rapists Dan?

Answer some questions for a change.

 

[georgenorman]

Care about it just as much as any other sort of violence against women or girls. Do you?

How can we tell?

 

[DanH]

I care about actual rape.

You care about claims as well as rape......I view claims as....what they are, a claim, not different to any other serious accusation.

If someone accused you of rape I'm pretty sure you'd want people to want proof.....other than someone saying you did it.....Or are you suggesting that you should be convicted purely on the accusation?



I'm pretty sure this isn't objective....for example, what are the stats for rape convictions when the woman goes to the Police straight after it happens.

I bet it isn't as low as that......But rape is a crime behind doors, you seeming to think it should have similar rates of conviction to other crimes is a bit....well, unrealistic.

If you haven't gone to the Police, but decide to much later on.....Are you suggesting that people should be convicted, when there could be fall outs and maliciousness, drugs and many other reasons for an accusation.....Or are you saying we should just convict.



When did they go to the Police and what evidence was there?



Dan....I tend to believe people are guilty of crimes once a court has fairly convicted them.

You on the other hand....

Are we going to jail celebrities for all the groupies they shagged?.....I'm pretty sure McCartney, Jagger and about most of entertainment industry anyone knows about would be in jail.

Are they all rapists Dan?

Answer some questions for a change.

Your attitude is exactly why the majority of rape victims will not go to the police.

How on earth are people going to get convicted of rape if someone first doesn’t claim they’ve been raped? Do you actually think or read back what you type to check it actually makes any sense before you hit post?

Consensual sex with groupies is not the same as rape, is it? Laughable comparison, and again, extremely offensive to the actual victims of rape you profess to care about.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Your attitude is exactly why the majority of rape victims will not go to the police.

How on earth are people going to get convicted of rape if someone first doesn’t claim they’ve been raped? Do you actually think or read back what you type to check it actually makes any sense before you hit post?

Consensual sex with groupies is not the same as rape, is it? Laughable comparison, and again, extremely offensive to the actual victims of rape you profess to care about.

How do you know sex with groupies was or wasn't consensual?

At what point was it consensual? What is evidence for that? What can prove otherwise? What if minds are changed afterwards?

Not that I expect you to properly deal with any of this....You haven't even answered most of the questions put to you in the last post.

You just ignore what are valid points and focus on emotional arguments. Completely ignored the point about what if you were accused for example.

What was it you once accused me of?.....Not a serious person.

If you cant' deal with grown up issues of justice that deals with real points.....then just stay in your whiny lane.

 

[DanH]

How do you know sex with groupies was or wasn't consensual?

At what point was it consensual? What is evidence for that? What can prove otherwise? What if minds are changed afterwards?

Not that I expect you to properly deal with any of this....You haven't even answered most of the questions put to you in the last post.

You just ignore what are valid points and focus on emotional arguments. Completely ignored the point about what if you were accused for example.

What was it you once accused me of?.....Not a serious person.

If you cant' deal with grown up issues of justice that deal with real points.....then just stay in your whiny lane.

Have Mick Jaggar or Paul McCartney ever been up in court on rape charges from 6 different women?

You haven’t made any valid points, just irrelevant whataboutery to try and excuse someone who is about to face some extremely serious charges just because you think it’s political.

If you were a serious person serious about your points you would condemn what has gone on in Epsom this week - they were just claims after all weren’t they.