Immigration

[Stirlingsays]

Fair enough but if they're part of the British army they should be entitled to the same benefits.

The standard to get into the British Gurkhas was high and if they make full service they are richly rewarded and are made men in their societies.....as they deserve and as it should be.

I found the whole pensions episode a big fuss over not a lot....it only made a difference to Gurkhas who had married and lived in Britain....not something I'd encourage but obviously legal.

My point is that we get these sympathy arguments pushed onto us all the time.....The constant putting of foreigners first, their concerns, their needs....with the British taxpayer paying.

British sons and daughters are growing up with this second class citizen culture coming at them from all sides.....the working/lower middle class certainly.

The right need to hold the line and say 'no'.....the mainstream right haven't been doing that for over twenty years now.

Like most of the world, we need to put our own first and have no apology for it.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Didn’t have big enough boats or planes then.
Did you miss the bit about neither as my preferred option which isn’t ever going to be the case.

Cortez burned the boats.

I know you mean well.

I say feck em.

 

[Badger11]

I know it isn't news but the British army has been fighting overseas with these circumstances for centuries.

Only in the last, I'd say fifty years has this, 'oh but won't you think of the foreigners you left behind' argument been made. It wasn't even considered previously.

How about I put this to you. Fighting aboard does not mean you can come back with a truck load of helpers from very foreign cultures and put them up in our towns and villages.....taking our housing stock, further breaking down our social infrastructure....involved in crime at far higher rates than locals.

People choose to help us for many many different reasons....money would be the most common. This quaint idea that they all fit into this model citizen concept who loves the Anglos is pure disneyland.

The argument that you are going to bring these people back to Blighty with the almost inevitable consequences that you end up giving all these people the same rights as my children......children born from a line of ancestors with only one loyalty.

I find that argument insulting.

They are not English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish/British. Helping us does not mean you get to live here.....You get paid and then you feck off. If we can't do our job without that understanding then we feck off ourselves as we shouldn't be there.

Join the Afghan army and learn to runaway, then get a free new life in Britain.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Until people put the ancestral peoples of these islands first, before anyone else, then we will continue to lose this country....If it can even be won back at this point......and they will have played some part in losing it.

This is a persistent, and quite frankly offensive, theme of yours which is deeply flawed.

When anything depends entirely on interpretation of what it actually means then it is, at best, an unreliable method of determining policy.

By one interpretation only those who can trace their origins to Celtic Britain have a legitimate claim:-

Welsh and Cornish are the 'purest Britons', scientists claim

Natives from Wales and Cornwall could hold the title for the "purest" Britons, a scientific study suggests.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Fortunately other interpretations are available which result in a more liberal attitude being dominant. So there seems no chance whatsoever of the one above being adopted.

 

[beak]

Join the Afghan army and learn to runaway, then get a free new life in Britain.

The Yanks ran away and left them in the lurch.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The Yanks ran away and left them in the lurch.

It’s a great way to encourage others in future wars to cooperate with them.

When dealing with the Taliban, whose memory is long and whose retribution is merciless, it’s unbelievably cruel. A great way to show the world how the values of the west are so superior!

 

[beak]

It’s a great way to encourage others in future wars to cooperate with them.

When dealing with the Taliban, whose memory is long and whose retribution is merciless, it’s unbelievably cruel. A great way to show the world how the values of the west are so superior!

But the Trump admirers and right wingers do not talk about it,they run away as well.

 

[Spiderman]

What? No. I said that Schengen has frig all to do with immigration, it's domestic policy which does, which you keep giving proof of.

Of course it does. Without Schengen migrants would be processed at every border between Turkey and France, with Schengen they are free to roam with no checks. How is that not to do with Immigration?
Let me put this another way, if a person who wished to travel to, for example Spain ( and would not be acceptable to the Spanish) applied to the Polish Embassy for a visa, they could issue a visa which would allow that person to enter Spain. Nothing wrong with that?

 

[Spiderman]

I would rather 30 k of these than the boat people tbh. At least they understand the word work and speak the language. Neither I agree is ideal but if you close the door the next time they join the enemy !

All those that helped the allied forces should have been assisted in leaving. However I’m not sure how many the US took compared to us. By rights the US should take a far larger number

 

[Rudi Hedman]

The standard to get into the British Gurkhas was high and if they make full service they are richly rewarded and are made men in their societies.....as they deserve and as it should be.

I found the whole pensions episode a big fuss over not a lot....it only made a difference to Gurkhas who had married and lived in Britain....not something I'd encourage but obviously legal.

My point is that we get these sympathy arguments pushed onto us all the time.....The constant putting of foreigners first, their concerns, their needs....with the British taxpayer paying.

British sons and daughters are growing up with this second class citizen culture coming at them from all sides.....the working/lower middle class certainly.

The right need to hold the line and say 'no'.....the mainstream right haven't been doing that for over twenty years now.

Like most of the world, we need to put our own first and have no apology for it.

I had a think about this during the morning and thought I’d have a read on here after a day of debate.

This morning I shared your view, only I did think it might discourage future natives assisting in future wars with information and informers, not this join the enemy worrying. If someone’s going to join the enemy because we didn’t take anyone into Britain because they assisted us trying to save their own then they’re not who I’d like to invite in tbh.

So them not assisting with information. Well don’t blO0dy rescue them then. Actually stop getting involved in these wars, especially wars on impossible terrain that have a history of unsolved conflicts. Ffs we’ve been on either side in Afghanistan within 40 years because of Russia. We just don’t bl00dy learn, do we.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

I know it isn't news but the British army has been fighting overseas with these circumstances for centuries.

Only in the last, I'd say fifty years has this, 'oh but won't you think of the foreigners you left behind' argument been made. It wasn't even considered previously.

How about I put this to you. Fighting aboard does not mean you can come back with a truck load of helpers from very foreign cultures and put them up in our towns and villages.....taking our housing stock, further breaking down our social infrastructure....involved in crime at far higher rates than locals.

People choose to help us for many many different reasons....money would be the most common. This quaint idea that they all fit into this model citizen concept who loves the Anglos is pure disneyland.

The argument that you are going to bring these people back to Blighty with the almost inevitable consequences that you end up giving all these people the same rights as my children......children born from a line of ancestors with only one loyalty.

I find that argument insulting.

They are not English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish/British. Helping us does not mean you get to live here.....You get paid and then you feck off. If we can't do our job without that understanding then we feck off ourselves as we shouldn't be there.

Yes, I was struggling with this new concept this morning. Did we take in all of Eastern Europe when the iron curtain fell? Or would we and the other western countries have taken all of them in if the possibility was there? Of course we fecking wouldn’t have. But these people who’ve grown in numbers and naivety and stupidity want to keep finding more and new people to look after instead of our own.

 

[cryrst]

Cortez burned the boats.

I know you mean well.

I say feck em.

The irony being stirls these very people would be on the beach with me and you.
Not many of our own would even have the morality let alone the boat people!

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yes, I was struggling with this new concept this morning. Did we take in all of Eastern Europe when the iron curtain fell? Or would we and the other western countries have taken all of them in if the possibility was there? Of course we fecking wouldn’t have. But these people who’ve grown in numbers and naivety and stupidity want to keep finding more and new people to look after instead of our own.

Yep, if this was 1960, maybe we could be more lenient, but it isn't.

We have to draw a line in the sand.

This 'imagine' bullsh1t, where we treat our country like some gift, is turning this country into a foreign land and making us poorer by the year.

The boomers and my generation...Gen X seem to have sleepwalked into leaving our own youngsters deep in the brown stuff....literally.

At least I can say I wasn't part of that.

 

[Stirlingsays]

The irony being stirls these very people would be on the beach with me and you.
Not many of our own would even have the morality let alone the boat people!

Have you read the stories from squadies who worked with the Afghan troops?

I think perhaps you should read up on some of that before you think you're getting Gunga Din....or Gurkhas.

I would let very few in if any.

Most of them weren't working with us for selfless reasons or for morality...it's money and for exactly the chance of what's happened. They will high majority vote left and like all minorities high majority always take the side of their communities.....Yet with us, we say 'oh come on in'.

It's the usual suicidal empathy that only whitey displays.

Every crime that's committed and every downgrade for housing and other infrastructure and service British people suffer is on those that supported this.

As for your own....It's the same DNA that made this country great, it's just been deliberately indoctrinated since birth. As Palace is its fans, this country is its people.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The government isn't really getting a grip here.

Poets, DJs and DEI officers? Britain’s ‘skilled’ visa list is a joke

Yvette Cooper’s skills-based system demands very few skills at all from prospective migrants.

www.spiked-online.com