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Been a fantastic start to the season. I had my criticism of SP however i wouldn’t change him for someone else. Can he convince Ollie to stay a couple more seasons
Humble pie over Parish anyone?
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I’m in no way excited because Pino comes from the Spanish league or the Mediterranean. I can see he suits us more than Eze because he sh1ts the life out of his opposition defender and the whole defence. He is so much faster from the moment the ball arrives at his feet, and speed with close control always makes defenders feel uneasy.
It doesn’t mean Pino is necessarily a more valuable asset than Eze, although in time he could end up being sold for more than Eze, and that is after all what we’re doing.
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My guess is if a big and attractive vacancy in Glasner’s eyes comes up/gets offered then he won’t extend.
If one doesn’t then he will extend for 1-2 years. I can’t see him making a sideways or slightly higher move on a contract for a few years.
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I didn’t mean to give the impression he is automatically better than Eze, just that given the situation we were in and all available current information it looks like a well managed bit of business.
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You can also read the Pino thread for why people are impressed with him. Nothing to do with his country, culture, name, anything like that. Purely his ability on the pitch.
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Agreed - I don’t see him going to a West Ham, Everton or even a Spurs.
The test for Glasner is whether he can break teams down who play us thinking a draw is a good result (hasn’t been the case before but will be now, particularly in the Conference League). If he proves he can do that we’ll obviously benefit from it but the actual big clubs will come calling.
Not the time for dessert at the moment.I would like a club established well within the top ten consistently.I think we are on the same page. 👍
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For me it rests entirely on whether he sees Man United as an attractive option. I wouldn't, but I can imagine them trying to tempt him in with their history and spending prowess.
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He seems to be the sort of manager who's not impressed by "player power" and likes signings who will fit into his system and support each other which might not be the case at a club like Man U.
Pardon the cliche but hopefully he sees us as being at the start of a journey which he wants to continue for a while. In the meantime the club should pay him as much as we can afford and give him as much support as possible - no one is irreplaceable but he's pretty close at the moment.
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We also have to cope without Sarr and Uche when AFCON starts
Fair points. I'd add when mentioning Pino that he is at least 50% better than Eze at tracking back and carrying out defensive duties.
Making signings in time for preseason was always going to be a big ask. Especially when the money for Eze was needed to complete these purchases. I still understand where Glasner is coming from though and putting yourself in his shoes with promises made to him you can understand his frustrations.
But things have not only settled down they have moved further forward than anyone could have dreamed of on the pitch.
I agree he needs to finally get this Main Stand built but IMO his no.1 task right now must be to do all he can to tie Glasner down to a long term deal.
For me this is a 'Brian Clough moment' for our club. Keeping Glasner long term means a golden age of success. It also puts Palace on the map both in Europe and in the Prem.
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I think we all had valid concerns when it looked like the Guehi deal was done and dusted with no replacement, so whilst I will say that it takes some grit to pull out of that deal and lose that money (and fair play to Guehi as he's still giving us 100%) that was avoidable. It seems apparent that everyone who needed to know at the club knew that Guehi was going to leave very shortly after the FA Cup final and we had the whole transfer window to find a replacement. Instead it felt like the focus was on the UEFA situation and then last minute getting a Brighton reject to take Guehi's place. I mean Igor can't be any good if Brighton were willing to help us out with a loan! Thank god he went to West Ham!
I've always thought Parish has done an amazing job as chairman and I can think back to when people were spitting feathers about signing Henderson for 20 mill (and look how that turned out!) but he did mess up the Guehi transfer, there was plenty of time to have a replacement lined up, even though Liverpool tried to play silly buggers by dragging their feet.
I've always thought Parish has done an amazing job as chairman and I can think back to when people were spitting feathers about signing Henderson for 20 mill (and look how that turned out!) but he did mess up the Guehi transfer, there was plenty of time to have a replacement lined up, even though Liverpool tried to play silly buggers by dragging their feet.
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Glasner himself has said this simply isn't true. Steve asked him if we could cope without Marc because letting him go on a free is unfortunately crippling for the club. Glasner said it is too risky and steve decided not to sell.
That's it. Official and confirmed. The hyperbole about steve was at best hysterical panic from doom merchants and at worse lies from those that are too butt hurt to admit they were wrong about "beaky".
No one should really now be repeating that glasner had to stop steve selling marc, threaten to quit or any such nonsense. It didnt happen. There cant be many that don't know it and anyone that does and still claims it is simply lying.
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I think Parish is the perfect chairman for our club and deserves great credit for where we are. He, Dougie, and Ollie were a dream team and when Dougie left he had to shoulder the burden which contributed to a trick but ultimately successful window. If Ollie can build a positive working relationship with the new DoF and parish can persuade him to extend his contract then he will have worked miracles. Failing that his job will be to find a new manager for next season and he will be judged by that.
They knew Guehi was planning to leave, when he turned down a new contract down, but hoped to change his mind. Nobody made an offer until about a week before the window shut, how can you blame Parish as getting an adequate replacement for the best CB in the league isn't easy and Liverpool or anyone else may not of made an offer.
It was obvious he didn't want to lose Eze and Guehi in the same window.
So then it was glasner who had the final say, if Parish didn't want to sell, there would have never been a bid accepted and Guehi wouldn't have been having a medical. It was a poorly managed transfer and that was down to Parish.
my take on things is that most Palace fans after the cup final that we would push on with early transfers after the season before. Most were cool when the window opened, still ok into July but come August when even Ollie was questioning things and why our business was not getting done and with most of those around us making signings the grumbles set in. When Eze left, we really started to panic. The MG and Liverpool soap opera was enough to create a frenzy. We looked 2 of our ‘star players’, were gone and nothing coming in.
Parish is to blame for the lateness and the drama it caused but that doesn’t mean he has done a bad job. The man and his team have done amazing. Unlike others in our position he has put Palace on rock solid foundations and what we are starting to see is a real progression in our club to become a core member of the premier league. Even if Ollie does leave, and I pray he doesn’t, the club will still be on a solid footing both in playing terms and financially.
As it turns out, our squad amazingly looks better than last year. Eze more spectacular than pino but I have a sneaky feeling that Pino will do to the left what Sarr did on the right after Olise left and we will become a favourite pretty quickly.
Getting back to the point of this thread, do I think Parish could have done more during the summer… absolutely. The man unfortunately loves the limelight and drama of deadline day. Do I trust in him… 100%. The man loves our club as much as we do.
He has proven too many times now that it’s not fluke where we are so from now on I’m going to keep my powder dry and trust in the club (and hopefully avoid the stress I get during the transfer window)
Parish is to blame for the lateness and the drama it caused but that doesn’t mean he has done a bad job. The man and his team have done amazing. Unlike others in our position he has put Palace on rock solid foundations and what we are starting to see is a real progression in our club to become a core member of the premier league. Even if Ollie does leave, and I pray he doesn’t, the club will still be on a solid footing both in playing terms and financially.
As it turns out, our squad amazingly looks better than last year. Eze more spectacular than pino but I have a sneaky feeling that Pino will do to the left what Sarr did on the right after Olise left and we will become a favourite pretty quickly.
Getting back to the point of this thread, do I think Parish could have done more during the summer… absolutely. The man unfortunately loves the limelight and drama of deadline day. Do I trust in him… 100%. The man loves our club as much as we do.
He has proven too many times now that it’s not fluke where we are so from now on I’m going to keep my powder dry and trust in the club (and hopefully avoid the stress I get during the transfer window)
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And I'm glad he didn't. Apart from his value to the team because it sent a message that we're not going to roll over when it comes to losing our best performers. At the moment it's more or less inevitable that Wharton will leave but the way we're shaping up the club is becoming more attractive for players to stay. At least those not at the peak of demand.
For those saying otherwise and supporting SP on the Guehi debacle, unfortunately what Rikz has said is true. If we had sold Guehi and got in Igor it would have been an absolute disaster. SP messed up and should have got someone lined up. It was hardly a secret Liverpool were going to bid. Do we really think SP didn't tell Liverpool on the phone 'bid late and you'll risk not getting him'?
Let's move on and now what does Steve do in January especially if we are going well in league and Conference League. Can he convince the men with the money to support the team, and most importantly Glasner, to achieve things for this club which we may never see again. I don't fear Glasner leaving next summer because in my mind he will be off to a big club somewhere in Europe. There must be a queue of top European clubs who are impressed with what he's achieving here. A clear set up and everyone is talking about how well he is coaching the players.
For what its worth, top 10 and the Conference League this season would be absolutely amazing. Is that achievable? Yes, with support in January especially when AFCON and injuries kick in.
Up to Steve now to do what he needs to do and rectify the summer mistakes. He's already cost the club £35m as we will lose Guehi for free. January could be so crucial for us.