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Yeah, starting with our prime minister.
He may have been CPS then but it was not a Labour govt so I say again, what you said in untrue ( fact ) and stupid (opinion ).

As I recall it was only a Labour MP who said the victims should keep quiet for the sake of community relations.
 
He may have been CPS then but it was not a Labour govt so I say again, what you said in untrue ( fact ) and stupid (opinion ).

As I recall it was only a Labour MP who said the victims should keep quiet for the sake of community relations.
Just acknowledge that Sir Keir was the only bloke doing what we wanted. Is that too hard to accept?
 
Just acknowledge that Sir Keir was the only bloke doing what we wanted. Is that too hard to accept?
You mean as head of the CPS he was prosecuting some criminals he should get special praise?

The prosecutions pre 2024 were nothing to do with the current Labour government but you won't correct yourself despite being 100% wrong, very Cornish behaviour.

Personally I don't really care if you post blatantly untrue stuff bit I will certainly point it out when as stupid as the current issue.

Moving on
 
You mean as head of the CPS he was prosecuting some criminals he should get special praise?

The prosecutions pre 2024 were nothing to do with the current Labour government but you won't correct yourself despite being 100% wrong, very Cornish behaviour.

Personally I don't really care if you post blatantly untrue stuff bit I will certainly point it out when as stupid as the current issue.

Moving on

Hard for you to acknowledge. If it was Farage you'd be hitting the vinegar strokes.


Sir Keir doing more about these dirtbags than any previous authority ever, and you can't bring yourself to recognise that. I bet deep down you wish they were still abusing the Rochdale teens so you could hate Starmer some more Sad.
 
So now we are going to have a National Inquiry, says Starmer. But he’s already said it’s not needed. I cannot for the life of me figure out what the motivation is behind this latest flip flop 🤔
 
Hard for you to acknowledge. If it was Farage you'd be hitting the vinegar strokes.


Sir Keir doing more about these dirtbags than any previous authority ever, and you can't bring yourself to recognise that. I bet deep down you wish they were still abusing the Rochdale teens so you could hate Starmer some more Sad.
Didn’t he say National Inquiry was not needed and those who wanted it were jumping on a far right band wagon? Where does that leave old flip flop?
I agree no party has done enough and we can all( well most of us) can guess why
 
He could hand you gold nuggets and personally execute illegal immigrants and you lot would still kick off.

Tell me who's done more. Your mate Farage? 🤣
 
He could hand you gold nuggets and personally execute illegal immigrants and you lot would still kick off.

Tell me who's done more. Your mate Farage? 🤣
I said no one has done enough. Starmer has u turned again, crumbling under pressure. Those who have done more are those who have kept this disgrace in the public domain. So has 2TK now jumped on the far right bandwagon or was that previous statement another lie?
If Starmer handed me gold nuggets, I wouldn’t get excited as he would immediately take them back with the other hand.
 
Hard for you to acknowledge. If it was Farage you'd be hitting the vinegar strokes.


Sir Keir doing more about these dirtbags than any previous authority ever, and you can't bring yourself to recognise that. I bet deep down you wish they were still abusing the Rochdale teens so you could hate Starmer some more Sad.
All because Der Starmer is obviously a massive rascist.
 
Didn’t he say National Inquiry was not needed and those who wanted it were jumping on a far right band wagon? Where does that leave old flip flop?
I agree no party has done enough and we can all( well most of us) can guess why
He did. So this is responding to political pressure rather than a genuine desire to seek the truth. I doubt if it will reveal anything new and all it will do is stir up controversy and anger which could in turn divert police resources. Scapegoats will be sought and a blame game played when it has already been acknowledged that the original strategy did not work. Putting more pressure on overworked and under resourced police and social services without recognising the limitations that they have serves no one.
 
He did. So this is responding to political pressure rather than a genuine desire to seek the truth. I doubt if it will reveal anything new and all it will do is stir up controversy and anger which could in turn divert police resources. Scapegoats will be sought and a blame game played when it has already been acknowledged that the original strategy did not work. Putting more pressure on overworked and under resourced police and social services without recognising the limitations that they have serves no one.
Not sue Flip flop is bowing to political pressure, more like he has seen the pending report. Sounds like you are not looking forward to this. Wait until you see what’s in Dame Casey’s report it will dispel some of your arguments over this topic.
Would that be the Social Services that accused a 10 yo victim, YES 10 yo, of being a prostitute? You may not believe this but it will come out
 
Hard for you to acknowledge. If it was Farage you'd be hitting the vinegar strokes.


Sir Keir doing more about these dirtbags than any previous authority ever, and you can't bring yourself to recognise that. I bet deep down you wish they were still abusing the Rochdale teens so you could hate Starmer some more Sad.
You are simply wrong in your assertion that prior to the last election the govt was not prosecuting child rapists.

Why do you persist when the facts are right in front of you. Get a grip

In my view there were insufficient prosecutions, insufficiently heavy sentencing etc.

Those whose negligence and corruption led to so many of these attacks need to ne held accountable.

i.e the police who found a minor being abused by a gang of men , men not arrested and police claimed consensual sex, which is not possible with a minor. Those police should be charged, punished, pension gone. the lot. There will also be culpable social workers etc etc.

Personally I doubt the enquiry will do much to punish the guilty, it is just what Starmer thinks will delay the enemies at the gate.
 
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Didn’t he say National Inquiry was not needed and those who wanted it were jumping on a far right band wagon? Where does that leave old flip flop?
I agree no party has done enough and we can all( well most of us) can guess why
There is no bandwagon Starmer will not jump on , " right wing " or not.

He lies more easily than any politician I have ever seen, and there's some recent stiff competition.

Johnson, Corbyn, Blair , Brown, Cameron, May etc etc
 
Politicians getting tough on Grooming Gangs & Open borders ? for a change ?

oh well. Nothing at all to do with the Southport Riots, Ballymena and the long shadow that Tommy Robinson casts. The lessons of history are stark : Politics either happens in the Parliament or it spills out onto the streets.
 
Not sue Flip flop is bowing to political pressure, more like he has seen the pending report. Sounds like you are not looking forward to this. Wait until you see what’s in Dame Casey’s report it will dispel some of your arguments over this topic.
Would that be the Social Services that accused a 10 yo victim, YES 10 yo, of being a prostitute? You may not believe this but it will come out
We will indeed see. I don’t doubt for a moment that errors of the kind you describe will be revealed. If you turn over enough stones anywhere there is muck to be found. That’s the nature of human beings. They are imperfect. Put them under stress, down grade their importance and pay and you get some poor quality people making bad decisions.

We aren’t turning over stones everywhere though. Just this one.

The kind of story you relate is awful but if you looked deep enough it wouldn’t be found to be that unusual. That’s not excusing it. It’s just being realistic. Shining a light on one specific area when the whole system is creaking is not going to make much difference. Only providing greater resources and prioritising it will and doing that when budgets are under pressure is really unlikely.
 
We will indeed see. I don’t doubt for a moment that errors of the kind you describe will be revealed. If you turn over enough stones anywhere there is muck to be found. That’s the nature of human beings. They are imperfect. Put them under stress, down grade their importance and pay and you get some poor quality people making bad decisions.

We aren’t turning over stones everywhere though. Just this one.

The kind of story you relate is awful but if you looked deep enough it wouldn’t be found to be that unusual. That’s not excusing it. It’s just being realistic. Shining a light on one specific area when the whole system is creaking is not going to make much difference. Only providing greater resources and prioritising it will and doing that when budgets are under pressure is really unlikely.
I’m sure the victims and their families whole heartedly concur with you 🤣. We are turning over stones here because it has been a national scandal that very little has been done about it , which, it has now been confirmed, was mainly due to the ethnicity of the perpetrators, a fact I believe you have dismissed on more than one occasion
 

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