Glasner Out

[PatrickA]

The only problem with this is we have Sarr and Pino as well who are also apparently right wingers. So unless a new manager lines up in a lop-sided three right winger formation I struggle to see what the point of the purchase was. You then have Nketiah and Guessand (no idea what his best position is supposed to be tbh) to add to this right sided attacker list not to mention França and Esse. As I said in another post a while ago the squad is completely unbalanced and our recent attacking purchases still baffle me.

The attacking side of the squad is unbalanced with Sarr, Guessand, Pino, Johnson and Esse all very right footed and none of them looking to be natural on the left hand side.
Some have suggested that Sarr has played on the left on the occasions for Watford and Senegal but it's far from ideal.
He mainly uses his left foot for standing on.
Yes, he can cut inside from the left but that means running into the crowded central area and narrows our play and restricts our ability to stretch the game.
In theory left footed Mitchell picks up attacking positions on the left, but this is not a strong part of his game .

 

[Painter]

I could imagine Olise looking at his options:

On the one hand Bayern Munich
On the other hand Brentford

Must have been a difficult choice.

Why have you edited Willo's original post?

The choice was Brentford or Palace, not Bayern Munich.

 

[Eaglecoops]

Why have you edited Willo's original post?

The choice was Brentford or Palace, not Bayern Munich.

Do one, it wasn’t me that edited his post. That was edited after my post. You can apologise whenever you like but I won’t hold my breath.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

The attacking side of the squad is unbalanced with Sarr, Guessand, Pino, Johnson and Esse all very right footed and none of them looking to be natural on the left hand side.
Some have suggested that Sarr has played on the left on the occasions for Watford and Senegal but it's far from ideal.
He mainly uses his left foot for standing on.
Yes, he can cut inside from the left but that means running into the crowded central area and narrows our play and restricts our ability to stretch the game.
In theory left footed Mitchell picks up attacking positions on the left, but this is not a strong part of his game .

Esse is incredibly left footed.

I don’t understand the implication that right footed players should be played off the right - I’d argue the opposite is more common in today’s game, and all of Sarr, Pino, Guessand and Johnson are more than able to play from the left.

Our wing backs are supposed to provide the width and stretch the game, not the forwards - we want the left 10 effecting the central area, as the right footed Eze did so effectively last season.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

The attacking side of the squad is unbalanced with Sarr, Guessand, Pino, Johnson and Esse all very right footed and none of them looking to be natural on the left hand side.
Some have suggested that Sarr has played on the left on the occasions for Watford and Senegal but it's far from ideal.
He mainly uses his left foot for standing on.
Yes, he can cut inside from the left but that means running into the crowded central area and narrows our play and restricts our ability to stretch the game.
In theory left footed Mitchell picks up attacking positions on the left, but this is not a strong part of his game .

Esse is left footed, might be rubbish, but left footed

 

[Eaglecoops]

Esse is incredibly left footed.

I don’t understand the implication that right footed players should be played off the right - I’d argue the opposite is more common in today’s game, and all of Sarr, Pino, Guessand and Johnson are more than able to play from the left.

Our wing backs are supposed to provide the width and stretch the game, not the forwards - we want the left 10 effecting the central area, as the right footed Eze did so effectively last season.

Supposed to and reality are two different things. Pino, Guessand, Johnson and Kamada when used in that role haven’t even got close to producing on the left what Sarr does on the right. Interestingly Sarr is right footed so why isn’t he being played on the left?

 

[PatrickA]

Esse is incredibly left footed.

I don’t understand the implication that right footed players should be played off the right - I’d argue the opposite is more common in today’s game, and all of Sarr, Pino, Guessand and Johnson are more than able to play from the left.

Our wing backs are supposed to provide the width and stretch the game, not the forwards - we want the left 10 effecting the central area, as the right footed Eze did so effectively last season.

My mistake on Esse, who is of course very left footed.
I also agree with your observations about the theory of the system with the no 10s playing narrower and the wing backs providing width.

My issue is that the current players don't look comfortable in the system.
Mitchell is a very good defender but he rarely looks the part in attacking areas and this is the least effective aspect of his game.

With regard to Sarr, Johnson, Guessand and Pino from the left, the opposition know they will always cut inside to use their right foot. If they do try and take the ball outside an opponent they seem incapable of using their left foot to cross the ball.
They are often dispossessed,elect to pass the ball back or at best win a throw in.
You're right about the modern trend for 'inverted' number 10s but at least Olise and Eze had the ability to occasionally go on the outside and cross accurately with their 'wrong' foot.
I don't see the current crop capable of doing this.

 

[Stansferret]

Am I being naive in thinking that a professional player on a minimum salary of £1m should be proficient with both feet? Must be possible with sufficient training.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Supposed to and reality are two different things. Pino, Guessand, Johnson and Kamada when used in that role haven’t even got close to producing on the left what Sarr does on the right. Interestingly Sarr is right footed so why isn’t he being played on the left?

Well mainly because we already had Eze when he signed, but also because it’s not binary, which is kind of my point.

There are right footed players more comfortable off the left and there are others who are not. This insistence that player X has to play off the right or left just feels like more desperation to criticise.

The two most successful right 10s in Glasner’s time here have been Olise and Sarr, who couldn’t be more different in profile and approach, not to mention being opposite footed.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

My mistake on Esse, who is of course very left footed.
I also agree with your observations about the theory of the system with the no 10s playing narrower and the wing backs providing width.

My issue is that the current players don't look comfortable in the system.
Mitchell is a very good defender but he rarely looks the part in attacking areas and this is the least effective aspect of his game.

With regard to Sarr, Johnson, Guessand and Pino from the left, the opposition know they will always cut inside to use their right foot. If they do try and take the ball outside an opponent they seem incapable of using their left foot to cross the ball.
They are often dispossessed,elect to pass the ball back or at best win a throw in.
You're right about the modern trend for 'inverted' number 10s but at least Olise and Eze had the ability to occasionally go on the outside and cross accurately with their 'wrong' foot.
I don't see the current crop capable of doing this.

I just disagree on a lot of fronts but it’s been done to death: Mitchell is nowhere near as bad going forward as people pretend and I’d struggle to recall a single example of Eze going on the outside and crossing with his left.

Your point about players cutting in on their strong foot applies just the same either way - ‘if we play a left footer, the opposition know the will always go outside to use their left foot’.

 

[PatrickA]

I just disagree on a lot of fronts but it’s been done to death: Mitchell is nowhere near as bad going forward as people pretend and I’d struggle to recall a single example of Eze going on the outside and crossing with his left.

Your point about players cutting in on their strong foot applies just the same either way - ‘if we play a left footer, the opposition know the will always go outside to use their left foot’.

Eze on his left foot with a perfect cross.
He also has a very strong shot on his left foot.
As you say, it's been done to death and we just see it differently

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Eze on his left foot with a perfect cross.
He also has a very strong shot on his left foot.
As you say, it's been done to death and we just see it differently

Great, although once in 150+ appearances doesn’t really prove much!

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

My mistake on Esse, who is of course very left footed.
I also agree with your observations about the theory of the system with the no 10s playing narrower and the wing backs providing width.

My issue is that the current players don't look comfortable in the system.
Mitchell is a very good defender but he rarely looks the part in attacking areas and this is the least effective aspect of his game.

With regard to Sarr, Johnson, Guessand and Pino from the left, the opposition know they will always cut inside to use their right foot. If they do try and take the ball outside an opponent they seem incapable of using their left foot to cross the ball.
They are often dispossessed,elect to pass the ball back or at best win a throw in.
You're right about the modern trend for 'inverted' number 10s but at least Olise and Eze had the ability to occasionally go on the outside and cross accurately with their 'wrong' foot.
I don't see the current crop capable of doing this.

Agreed, the idea on paper is that the left sided No10 is right footed and vice versa, so the wing backs are on their natural side, feet wise, to apply crosses, unfortunately we don't have any left footed attacking players available, hence, the square pegs in round holes argument

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Am I being naive in thinking that a professional player on a minimum salary of £1m should be proficient with both feet? Must be possible with sufficient training.

George Best, not the best trainer, forced himself to kick only with his left foot when younger, too such an extent he became completely two footed, maybe its all too much for the modern multi millionaire players to bother.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

We're comfortably safe in the Premier League and in a European quarter final.....

How do you measure "terrible"?

And also we gave Brighton a thump this season.

 

[palace99]

I just disagree on a lot of fronts but it’s been done to death: Mitchell is nowhere near as bad going forward as people pretend and I’d struggle to recall a single example of Eze going on the outside and crossing with his left.

Your point about players cutting in on their strong foot applies just the same either way - ‘if we play a left footer, the opposition know the will always go outside to use their left foot’.

a very short memory - the second goal v Fulham in the last 8 of the FA cup last season is surely a perfect example.

Re left and right footed players. I think a decent player can play on either wing - Olise and Eze are perfect examples of players playing on the opposite side to their strong foot

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Playing wide players on the opposite side is a good tactic when they can cut inside and shoot as effectively as Olise but when we have a striker who's good in the air wouldn't it be better to get to the by line and cross it with the natural foot? In any case there's nothing to stop wide players switching sides if one tactic isn't working. Well, there might be one thing but he's leaving.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

a very short memory - the second goal v Fulham in the last 8 of the FA cup last season is surely a perfect example.

Re left and right footed players. I think a decent player can play on either wing - Olise and Eze are perfect examples of players playing on the opposite side to their strong foot

Can you give me another example?

 

[dreamwaverider]

Esse is incredibly left footed.

I don’t understand the implication that right footed players should be played off the right - I’d argue the opposite is more common in today’s game, and all of Sarr, Pino, Guessand and Johnson are more than able to play from the left.

Our wing backs are supposed to provide the width and stretch the game, not the forwards - we want the left 10 effecting the central area, as the right footed Eze did so effectively last season.

Not sure of the relevance of this. He has only started five games for Coventry since his loan move in January.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

with Easter coming up, and fans opinions divided on the merits of Glasner, I have a suggestion, but it is a tad religious

We could crucify Glasner in Sainsbuy's car park, then put his body locked in a cupboard in the Trophy room. If he is back in the dugout after Easter, then he truly is the Messiah.

If he doesn't show up for work, Palace should appoint a new manager ASAP 🙂

**This post was sponsored by Sainsbury's who are currently doing great deals on Easter Eggs 🙂