Glasner Out

For what it's worth, my take on this:

1. Glasner is a detailed and very forthright communicator. He has shown this in most press conferences and interviews which I have seen.
2. He is also an empath. He "gets" people and is very much a people person. The way he introduced himself to the press in his first press conference and many of the soundbites he gave in the run up to and following the FA Cup final all show this.
3. He seems to want to take personal ownership of the teams he manages. I've lost count the amount of times he has said "I always start with myself, what could I have done better with X, Y or Z..."

Point 3 seems to be the problem with him: it seems to me he feels he does not have enough control to drive results or even progress.

He sees the team being dismanted, the wheels coming off results wise, the shocker in the FA Cup, and he has taken all this personally. Maybe this is because of broken promises or maybe because of what he sees as mismanagement at Board level.

I really like the guy. He is an elite manager and in the right set up I think he could do amazing things. Much as I want believe that is us, in reality it is not.

I do not think even the most "Glasner Out" fan would want his legacy with us to be ruined. The guy should be getting a statue, not brickbats because of one weekend of press conferences and a FA Cup humbling.

Given the breakdown in relationship with SP since the last summer window, and especially in the last week, with regret I think it is best for all parties if he moves on.
 
My own view is that the leadership are frantically sourcing an alternative to Glasner, and at some point it will be in both parties’ interests to stop working together. Rather suspect he will be despatched if Frank becomes available, just a hunch.

As the dust settles, what is clear is the leadership did not invest adequately, and that has left the squad under-resourced. What that does not do, though, is give an egomaniac the right to rip up in public what has been our properly sustained tenure in the top flight.

Glasner was fully aware of how this club operates when he took the job. He knew there would not be money lavished on players and that he would have to work with what he had. The FA Cup can never be taken away from us, but what can be taken away is the shine of winning it, and right now he is doing his best to diminish that.

It all feels desperate at the moment, but we should remember that once he’s gone, we still won that trophy and the unpleasantness that followed will fade. But make no mistake — he has won the FA Cup and decided he can play God at Crystal Palace Football Club, not God on a cloud, but with a wrecking ball. He is a disgrace, I never thought I would dislike any former employees more than Southgate and El Tel, but he has trumped them in my personal chasm of bile.

This club has generally operated within the boundaries of sustainability. Apart from a few moments over the years where it has gone off tangent, Parish has done a brilliant job keeping us on an even keel. We now have exceedingly wealthy backers, and once the new stand is built and the club becomes 25% bigger, the benefit of that will be felt for years to come. However, now is not the time to blow up good stewardship to satisfy one man’s ego. Some Palace fans really need to get their heads around fair play and the realisms of our club governance and operation.

What has happened is Glasner has thrown his toys out because he hasn’t got what he wanted. He has shown a lack of adaptability, an inability to properly utilise the full squad, and he has flogged key players to the point they look a few percent below their best,and that is often the difference between winning and losing. Bad or gross mismanagement? You decide.

Macclesfield was an absolute embarrassment for the football club, and he chose that team. That is on him.

I think we are getting these tantrums because a couple of months ago he may have felt he could walk into a Manchester United-level job, and now he is watching his stock fall rapidly with every poor performance, his chances of moving up are shrinking each time he fails to get more out of a squad he has not managed well this season.

Yes, a few extra players might have helped at the margins, but at the end of the day they weren’t there. That is the Palace way, and always has been. He thought he was bigger than that, and the club should bend to Oliver Glasner. Come worship me, the great Ollie, ye mere Palace mortals.
 
As the week goes on I was hoping my frustration of the situation we find ourselves in would subside

Yet I’m getting more fing angry at any one who wants away from the club - just F off then - no wage ARGO !

OG currency has gone down his overdrawing as the days go on - Super Tactical Leader - Big Girls Blouse

We got the Cup he created history But oh boy is he bringing the club down now
 
The HF are confused about what to protest about.
Price of bleeding eggs for starters - gone threw the roof

I am interested come Sunday the reaction from the whole crowd

The nervousness 5 mins before kick off will be palpable ;
Will JP turn up
Will OG wear an ICE face mask
Will Parish hide behind Mark Brights jacket
Will Simon Jordan & John Textor & Ian Dowie watch from AWS but separately
Will brick burgers go on sale 6 mins b4 kick off
It’s all building up for Chelsea to turn up with 6 coach loads of 1st team players
Will it be snowing even
Will Brennan wear a shirt of “ WTF is going on “
Will ,will DJ play “ chuwumbha wumbu “ track
 
He did it with great respect for everyone. Not with follow up criticism for his employer and the younger players.

Klopp was dignified. Glasner wasn’t. I guess Klopp cleared his announcement before making it and that Glasner didn’t.
More to the point Klopp was stepping back from management. Glasner is stepping back from Palace. Absolutely massive difference in how that is perceived by your fans. Glasner can f:;@ right off as far as I’m concerned.
 
I just can’t get past the point - Glasner was upset because the captain going 24 hours before a game unsettled the players and system… but players pick up knocks and miss games all the time, team mates are used to that. He chose to unsettle them further when he announced his own departure, far more unsettling, they knew Guehi was going at some point.

The Mateta story makes me more frustrated with Glasner. The club needs a manager right now, our manager may care about the players he likes, but he’s a temp and he doesn’t care about our club.
 
Dont be ridiculous. The DoF is employed by the club. He does as he is told. If Parish tells him to negotiate a player sale that is none of Glasner's business.
Technically the club are not even under any obligation to even mention it to the manager unless its written into his contract that he has to be told. The player registrations are the property of the club to keep/sell as they wish. They dont need Glasner's permission or even approval.
Players get sold all the time without the manager knowing about it until the deal is agreed.
Sure the club can do what they like they are not obliged by law. But there is a sensible way to work and less sensible ways. Chelsea tried to do that nonsense in the early days of Boehly and it was a complete car crash. Pretty much any club that has tried to act like that has become a car crash.
 
There is only so much you can do if you are working blindfolded. It’s just common sense that you conduct squad planning as a cohesive unit, as a backroom team that all understand each other and all cooperate with each other on a shared vision, not as three separate cogs each doing their own random thing and hoping for the best…
 
I just can’t get past the point - Glasner was upset because the captain going 24 hours before a game unsettled the players and system… but players pick up knocks and miss games all the time, team mates are used to that. He chose to unsettle them further when he announced his own departure, far more unsettling, they knew Guehi was going at some point.

The Mateta story makes me more frustrated with Glasner. The club needs a manager right now, our manager may care about the players he likes, but he’s a temp and he doesn’t care about our club.
If you pick up a knock, you still stay around the team and tend to end up returning at some point. It’s also not intentional to pick up a knock.
 
He sees the team being dismanted, the wheels coming off results wise, the shocker in the FA Cup, and he has taken all this personally. Maybe this is because of broken promises or maybe because of what he sees as mismanagement at Board level.
He wouldn’t be wrong. They’ve made a complete fist of it.

Funnily enough more people were saying that on here in the early summer before they’d had a real chance, and when Oli was still happy. I was defending Steve and co at the time on the basis that it was too early to judge.

Now it seems to have flipped around entirely, a lot of people have forgotten their dismay at the decisions up top just as they’ve become blatantly clear, and the manager has decided to weigh in on them.
 

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