Glasner is a Glazier....Our best manager ever ?

None of this should be read as an attempt to diminish what Oliver Glasner has achieved at Crystal Palace, because the truth is that his achievements deserve to be celebrated and remembered. The cup triumphs gave us memories that will last a lifetime, his teams at their best have played some of the most accomplished football seen at Selhurst Park at this level, and there is every reason why future generations will speak of him with the same affection and admiration that older supporters reserve for the great figures of the club's past.

But admiration should never come at the expense of perspective and context.

The more I think about this debate, the more I find myself returning to the same simple point. Oliver Glasner arrived at a football club that had already spent more than a decade establishing itself in the Premier League, a club with wealthy owners, modern facilities, sophisticated recruitment structures and financial resources that place it among the richest football institutions not just in England but anywhere in the world. That is not a criticism of Glasner; it is merely a statement of fact. He inherited a club that, while far from perfect, already possessed the foundations, stability and infrastructure that most managers can only dream of walking into.

Steve Coppell inherited something entirely different. He inherited a club that was still searching for its identity, still battling for relevance and credibility, and still operating with resources that left it at a significant disadvantage compared to many of its rivals. He was not simply tasked with improving results on a Saturday afternoon. He was effectively asked to help shape what Crystal Palace Football Club would become, and through a combination of judgement, leadership, coaching, recruitment and sheer force of personality he succeeded beyond anything that most supporters could reasonably have imagined at the time.

That, for me, is the fundamental distinction between the two men and the reason why the debate is not nearly as close as some would have us believe.

When people describe Glasner as Palace's greatest manager, they are usually focusing on what happened during his time at the club. When people describe Coppell as Palace's greatest manager, they are talking about something much larger. They are talking about the creation of a culture, the development of players, the transformation of expectations and the construction of a platform upon which future generations were able to build.

In many respects, the Crystal Palace that Glasner inherited was itself part of Coppell's legacy. That is why I can happily accept the argument that Oliver Glasner may well be the finest coach Crystal Palace have ever had. Modern football has become increasingly specialised, coaching standards have evolved dramatically and there is no question that Glasner brought qualities to the role that belong firmly to the modern era.

Yet if the discussion is about management rather than coaching, about building rather than inheriting, about transforming a football club rather than improving one that already exists, then I find it extraordinarily difficult to look beyond Steve Coppell.

Because when all the trophies have been celebrated, all the league tables forgotten and all the generations of supporters have had their say, history tends to ask a very simple question: who changed the club the most?

For me, and I suspect for many who witnessed both eras, the answer to that question will always be Steve Coppell.

Oliver Glasner inherited a Premier League football club and added a glorious chapter to its story. Steve Coppell built the foundations and in a different era great success.

Best manager: Coppell

Best coach: Glasner
Fascinating piece, having listened to several player`s interviews many of them mentioned how Glasner had transformed the culture, approach and attitude within the club. I used to be of the view that Coppell was our best ever manager and could not see how he would be usurped. However, Glasner has done just that so now in my opinion he is our best ever manager.
Also one question I would pose both administrations were like earthquakes which required a lot of rebuilding. So did Coppell actually build the current foundations or were they built by Parish and the others?
 
i kind of get what you're saying about Coppell creating a culture, however that culture wasn't an upward trajectory since his time in charge to now, and Glasner took over a team where the culture was survival, with no ambition to push for anything more. That rot had really set in under Hodgson. Listen to what the players say about Glasner. He challenged them to invest more in themselves and their jobs if they want to achieve something, he dared them to be more ambitious and believe they could do more. That's creating a culture of high performance, a winning mentality that ultimately saw us lift three trophies!

(I know this won't change your mind and I'm not trying to change it, I'm making the point on where Glasner started and the culture he created).
Indeed it is, but it needs to continue and if it doesn't...?
 
No they don't.
  1. I found Dave's post gave an interesting perspective. I'm not saying I totally agree with it but it does give food for thought. For example, if after Glasner's departure, we return to type, we won't have moved forward. His tenure will have been a temporary blip, albeit one that we who've experienced it will treasure forever. However, if after having been shown by Glasner we are capable of winning trophies, we go on and win some more then Glasner will have achieved something more lasting, i.e., a change of mindset and self-belief.
  2. I don't think your comment re head wobble and a statement regarding respect sit comfortably together.

With respect…they most certainly do.
 
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None of this should be read as an attempt to diminish what Oliver Glasner has achieved at Crystal Palace, because the truth is that his achievements deserve to be celebrated and remembered. The cup triumphs gave us memories that will last a lifetime, his teams at their best have played some of the most accomplished football seen at Selhurst Park at this level, and there is every reason why future generations will speak of him with the same affection and admiration that older supporters reserve for the great figures of the club's past.

But admiration should never come at the expense of perspective and context.

The more I think about this debate, the more I find myself returning to the same simple point. Oliver Glasner arrived at a football club that had already spent more than a decade establishing itself in the Premier League, a club with wealthy owners, modern facilities, sophisticated recruitment structures and financial resources that place it among the richest football institutions not just in England but anywhere in the world. That is not a criticism of Glasner; it is merely a statement of fact. He inherited a club that, while far from perfect, already possessed the foundations, stability and infrastructure that most managers can only dream of walking into.

Steve Coppell inherited something entirely different. He inherited a club that was still searching for its identity, still battling for relevance and credibility, and still operating with resources that left it at a significant disadvantage compared to many of its rivals. He was not simply tasked with improving results on a Saturday afternoon. He was effectively asked to help shape what Crystal Palace Football Club would become, and through a combination of judgement, leadership, coaching, recruitment and sheer force of personality he succeeded beyond anything that most supporters could reasonably have imagined at the time.

That, for me, is the fundamental distinction between the two men and the reason why the debate is not nearly as close as some would have us believe.

When people describe Glasner as Palace's greatest manager, they are usually focusing on what happened during his time at the club. When people describe Coppell as Palace's greatest manager, they are talking about something much larger. They are talking about the creation of a culture, the development of players, the transformation of expectations and the construction of a platform upon which future generations were able to build.

In many respects, the Crystal Palace that Glasner inherited was itself part of Coppell's legacy. That is why I can happily accept the argument that Oliver Glasner may well be the finest coach Crystal Palace have ever had. Modern football has become increasingly specialised, coaching standards have evolved dramatically and there is no question that Glasner brought qualities to the role that belong firmly to the modern era.

Yet if the discussion is about management rather than coaching, about building rather than inheriting, about transforming a football club rather than improving one that already exists, then I find it extraordinarily difficult to look beyond Steve Coppell.

Because when all the trophies have been celebrated, all the league tables forgotten and all the generations of supporters have had their say, history tends to ask a very simple question: who changed the club the most?

For me, and I suspect for many who witnessed both eras, the answer to that question will always be Steve Coppell.

Oliver Glasner inherited a Premier League football club and added a glorious chapter to its story. Steve Coppell built the foundations and in a different era great success.

Best manager: Coppell

Best coach: Glasner
Lovely post (and great username).
I find myself torn between both camps...but if I had to pick one.......


Ernie Whalley! 😀

No.. Steve...no Ollie.
Fascinating debate. It really was a different time... Coppell and Noades driving miles to scout a player: Value for money:

How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C. Value for money: How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

Just noticed, after reading that, no one voted for Dave Bassett either!
 
Lovely post (and great username).
I find myself torn between both camps...but if I had to pick one.......


Ernie Whalley! 😀

No.. Steve...no Ollie.
Fascinating debate. It really was a different time... Coppell and Noades driving miles to scout a player: Value for money:

How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C. Value for money: How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

Just noticed, after reading that, no one voted for Dave Bassett either!
I actually watched the Vinnie Jones documentary on Netflix yesterday, for anyone who needs a reminder about the standard and level of professionalism in the game back then, watch that.

They went from non league to 5th In the 1st division and won the fa cup with a hod carrier in midfield.
 
Some interesting perspectives on this.
The debate is really amongst the older fans who lived through the Coppell era.
My view, rose tinted maybe, is that Steve was our greatest manager but Glasner has without a doubt been our most successful manager. The comparison is between a 2 year stint and, on and off, 15 year’s service through thick and thin. Those days in the early 1990’s were some of the best years to have been a Palace fan.The last 2 have eclipsed them in terms of success though.
 
Glasner is certainly the most positive manager I can recall at the club.
He appeared to go in to every game thinking we could win and that mindset infected the players.
It almost became no surprise when we achieved very good results against the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Villa.

It was a huge change in the psychology of the club because other managers we have had seemed to accept a narrow defeat against top clubs as a good result.

Well I'm going to keep that positivity going and hope that the new manager will be able to achieve good results against Arsenal too, who we seemed to struggle against even with Glasner.
 
No they don't.
  1. I found Dave's post gave an interesting perspective. I'm not saying I totally agree with it but it does give food for thought. For example, if after Glasner's departure, we return to type, we won't have moved forward. His tenure will have been a temporary blip, albeit one that we who've experienced it will treasure forever. However, if after having been shown by Glasner we are capable of winning trophies, we go on and win some more then Glasner will have achieved something more lasting, i.e., a change of mindset and self-belief.
  2. I don't think your comment re head wobble and a statement regarding respect sit comfortably together.
Interesting thought, but what if we dont? With Glasner gone, then surely the mood he set will also disappear. The future mood will surely be set by the new manager.
 
Indeed it is, but it needs to continue and if it doesn't...?
That's my issue with the Coppell justification. The culture didn't last. The appointment of the next manager will determine whether the winning culture can continue. We are ahopping in the winning aisle rather than the survival aisle of managers now to lets hope so, and hope we have a plan B if it's not Iraiola!
 
That's my issue with the Coppell justification. The culture didn't last. The appointment of the next manager will determine whether the winning culture can continue. We are ahopping in the winning aisle rather than the survival aisle of managers now to lets hope so, and hope we have a plan B if it's not Iraiola!
Nice typo. It's easier to imagine us a-hopping in the winning aisle than shopping in it.
 
I absolutely agree with everything you said. I would go even further in that Steve put the club before himself. OG cannot be accused of that.

There is no doubt OG is the most successful as the records don’t lie. However as Bromley Monkey said Steve is our greatest ever manager.
He took charge on 4 separate occasions, to help the club when in need. If you look at his record below he did more than just finishing 3rd and the cup final. He built a legacy that will never be forgotten.

So for us older fans maybe loyalty and servitude outranks success when it comes to who is greatest

  • First Spell (1984–1993): His longest tenure. He took over at age 28, leading the Eagles to two promotions, the 1990 FA Cup Final, and a third-place top-flight finish.
  • Second Spell (1995–1996): Returned initially in a director role before taking back the managerial reins for a brief stint.
  • Third Spell (1997–1998): Came back as manager to earn yet another promotion to the top-flight.
  • Fourth Spell (1999–2000): Took charge of the side for a final time as financial issues beset the club.
Absolutely, brilliant points!!

I wouldn’t swap what we’ve had the last year obviously, but Glasner had the foundations to work with, Sir Steve came into the club when we had nothing and were getting by on a shoestring, Christ fans money had to pay for three players, one of which turned out well, Mark Bright, wasn’t the scheme called ‘Lifeline’ or something?
Can you imagine dropping Glasner into that situation, and he thought he was abandoned now!!
 
Glasner is certainly the most positive manager I can recall at the club.
He appeared to go in to every game thinking we could win and that mindset infected the players.
It almost became no surprise when we achieved very good results against the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Villa.

It was a huge change in the psychology of the club because other managers we have had seemed to accept a narrow defeat against top clubs as a good result.

Well I'm going to keep that positivity going and hope that the new manager will be able to achieve good results against Arsenal too, who we seemed to struggle against even with Glasner.
Even worse records against Chelsea and Everton.
 
Glasner is certainly the most positive manager I can recall at the club.
He appeared to go in to every game thinking we could win and that mindset infected the players.

Glasner is the polar opposite to Croydon-Roy. And interestingly, i like and respect BOTH of them. The massive dip in form we had, that would have never happened under Roy. But we would have won nothing under him either.
Glasner is like an F1 car.....high performance and highly likely to break down or crash. Roy is like an old Toyota Corolla....not glamorous but guaranteed to get you to the supermarket on time.
 
Just watching Arteta replicate Glasner's tactics from the Cup Final in today's Champions League Final.
Loved it when Glasner does it, hate it when Arteta does it.
 
Just watching Arteta replicate Glasner's tactics from the Cup Final in today's Champions League Final.
Loved it when Glasner does it, hate it when Arteta does it.
I said to my brother that it was like watching a poor man’s Palace. Sitting deep behind the ball and hitting on the break when you have a midfield costing a small fortune. Then resorting to going long. They got what they deserved. It’s the. Champions League final FFS!
 
I said to my brother that it was like watching a poor man’s Palace. Sitting deep behind the ball and hitting on the break when you have a midfield costing a small fortune. Then resorting to going long. They got what they deserved. It’s the. Champions League final FFS!
And they haven't got a left winger either.
 

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