Glasner is a Glazier....Our best manager ever ?

None of this should be read as an attempt to diminish what Oliver Glasner has achieved at Crystal Palace, because the truth is that his achievements deserve to be celebrated and remembered. The cup triumphs gave us memories that will last a lifetime, his teams at their best have played some of the most accomplished football seen at Selhurst Park at this level, and there is every reason why future generations will speak of him with the same affection and admiration that older supporters reserve for the great figures of the club's past.

But admiration should never come at the expense of perspective and context.

The more I think about this debate, the more I find myself returning to the same simple point. Oliver Glasner arrived at a football club that had already spent more than a decade establishing itself in the Premier League, a club with wealthy owners, modern facilities, sophisticated recruitment structures and financial resources that place it among the richest football institutions not just in England but anywhere in the world. That is not a criticism of Glasner; it is merely a statement of fact. He inherited a club that, while far from perfect, already possessed the foundations, stability and infrastructure that most managers can only dream of walking into.

Steve Coppell inherited something entirely different. He inherited a club that was still searching for its identity, still battling for relevance and credibility, and still operating with resources that left it at a significant disadvantage compared to many of its rivals. He was not simply tasked with improving results on a Saturday afternoon. He was effectively asked to help shape what Crystal Palace Football Club would become, and through a combination of judgement, leadership, coaching, recruitment and sheer force of personality he succeeded beyond anything that most supporters could reasonably have imagined at the time.

That, for me, is the fundamental distinction between the two men and the reason why the debate is not nearly as close as some would have us believe.

When people describe Glasner as Palace's greatest manager, they are usually focusing on what happened during his time at the club. When people describe Coppell as Palace's greatest manager, they are talking about something much larger. They are talking about the creation of a culture, the development of players, the transformation of expectations and the construction of a platform upon which future generations were able to build.

In many respects, the Crystal Palace that Glasner inherited was itself part of Coppell's legacy. That is why I can happily accept the argument that Oliver Glasner may well be the finest coach Crystal Palace have ever had. Modern football has become increasingly specialised, coaching standards have evolved dramatically and there is no question that Glasner brought qualities to the role that belong firmly to the modern era.

Yet if the discussion is about management rather than coaching, about building rather than inheriting, about transforming a football club rather than improving one that already exists, then I find it extraordinarily difficult to look beyond Steve Coppell.

Because when all the trophies have been celebrated, all the league tables forgotten and all the generations of supporters have had their say, history tends to ask a very simple question: who changed the club the most?

For me, and I suspect for many who witnessed both eras, the answer to that question will always be Steve Coppell.

Oliver Glasner inherited a Premier League football club and added a glorious chapter to its story. Steve Coppell built the foundations and in a different era great success.

Best manager: Coppell

Best coach: Glasner
Fascinating piece, having listened to several player`s interviews many of them mentioned how Glasner had transformed the culture, approach and attitude within the club. I used to be of the view that Coppell was our best ever manager and could not see how he would be usurped. However, Glasner has done just that so now in my opinion he is our best ever manager.
Also one question I would pose both administrations were like earthquakes which required a lot of rebuilding. So did Coppell actually build the current foundations or were they built by Parish and the others?
 
i kind of get what you're saying about Coppell creating a culture, however that culture wasn't an upward trajectory since his time in charge to now, and Glasner took over a team where the culture was survival, with no ambition to push for anything more. That rot had really set in under Hodgson. Listen to what the players say about Glasner. He challenged them to invest more in themselves and their jobs if they want to achieve something, he dared them to be more ambitious and believe they could do more. That's creating a culture of high performance, a winning mentality that ultimately saw us lift three trophies!

(I know this won't change your mind and I'm not trying to change it, I'm making the point on where Glasner started and the culture he created).
Indeed it is, but it needs to continue and if it doesn't...?
 
No they don't.
  1. I found Dave's post gave an interesting perspective. I'm not saying I totally agree with it but it does give food for thought. For example, if after Glasner's departure, we return to type, we won't have moved forward. His tenure will have been a temporary blip, albeit one that we who've experienced it will treasure forever. However, if after having been shown by Glasner we are capable of winning trophies, we go on and win some more then Glasner will have achieved something more lasting, i.e., a change of mindset and self-belief.
  2. I don't think your comment re head wobble and a statement regarding respect sit comfortably together.

With respect…they most certainly do.
 
the Board made their decision in February 2026.

See you next Tuesdays ,....
 

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None of this should be read as an attempt to diminish what Oliver Glasner has achieved at Crystal Palace, because the truth is that his achievements deserve to be celebrated and remembered. The cup triumphs gave us memories that will last a lifetime, his teams at their best have played some of the most accomplished football seen at Selhurst Park at this level, and there is every reason why future generations will speak of him with the same affection and admiration that older supporters reserve for the great figures of the club's past.

But admiration should never come at the expense of perspective and context.

The more I think about this debate, the more I find myself returning to the same simple point. Oliver Glasner arrived at a football club that had already spent more than a decade establishing itself in the Premier League, a club with wealthy owners, modern facilities, sophisticated recruitment structures and financial resources that place it among the richest football institutions not just in England but anywhere in the world. That is not a criticism of Glasner; it is merely a statement of fact. He inherited a club that, while far from perfect, already possessed the foundations, stability and infrastructure that most managers can only dream of walking into.

Steve Coppell inherited something entirely different. He inherited a club that was still searching for its identity, still battling for relevance and credibility, and still operating with resources that left it at a significant disadvantage compared to many of its rivals. He was not simply tasked with improving results on a Saturday afternoon. He was effectively asked to help shape what Crystal Palace Football Club would become, and through a combination of judgement, leadership, coaching, recruitment and sheer force of personality he succeeded beyond anything that most supporters could reasonably have imagined at the time.

That, for me, is the fundamental distinction between the two men and the reason why the debate is not nearly as close as some would have us believe.

When people describe Glasner as Palace's greatest manager, they are usually focusing on what happened during his time at the club. When people describe Coppell as Palace's greatest manager, they are talking about something much larger. They are talking about the creation of a culture, the development of players, the transformation of expectations and the construction of a platform upon which future generations were able to build.

In many respects, the Crystal Palace that Glasner inherited was itself part of Coppell's legacy. That is why I can happily accept the argument that Oliver Glasner may well be the finest coach Crystal Palace have ever had. Modern football has become increasingly specialised, coaching standards have evolved dramatically and there is no question that Glasner brought qualities to the role that belong firmly to the modern era.

Yet if the discussion is about management rather than coaching, about building rather than inheriting, about transforming a football club rather than improving one that already exists, then I find it extraordinarily difficult to look beyond Steve Coppell.

Because when all the trophies have been celebrated, all the league tables forgotten and all the generations of supporters have had their say, history tends to ask a very simple question: who changed the club the most?

For me, and I suspect for many who witnessed both eras, the answer to that question will always be Steve Coppell.

Oliver Glasner inherited a Premier League football club and added a glorious chapter to its story. Steve Coppell built the foundations and in a different era great success.

Best manager: Coppell

Best coach: Glasner
Lovely post (and great username).
I find myself torn between both camps...but if I had to pick one.......


Ernie Whalley! 😀

No.. Steve...no Ollie.
Fascinating debate. It really was a different time... Coppell and Noades driving miles to scout a player: Value for money:

How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C. Value for money: How Coppell and Noades built Palace’s most successful squad - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

Just noticed, after reading that, no one voted for Dave Bassett either!
 

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