Glasner is a Glazier....Our best manager ever ?

[PatrickA]

It is lessened through time tho, football was nothing like today back then, especially the English league, go back through the 80s, there were probably about 30 different clubs that finished in the top 5. Still a great achievement but finishing 3rd in the prem today would be a far greater achievement.

We just see it differently.

 

[JHB]

For clarification we 'finished ' third in the table under Coppell in the season in question, as opposed to just achieving this position at a random point during the season.
Nowhere have I suggested selling Eze, Olise and Guehi was the 'fault' of Glasner.
I'm sure he'd have loved to have kept them; just as Coppell would like to have retained the likes of Ian Wright.

To reiterate my central point, both Coppell and Glasner have done sterling jobs for the club and have significantly outperformed expectations .

I recall that what happened was that normally teams finishing third got into the UEFA Cup but English clubs were being phased back in after being banned from Europe following the Hysel Stadium tragedy. We implored the FA to argue for us to be given entry but they did a half arsed job and we didn’t. The suspicion at the time being had it been a ‘big’ club like they would have secured the place. I remember Coppell calling the FA “chocolate soldiers”

 

[PalazioVecchio]

It is lessened through time tho, football was nothing like today back then, especially the English league, go back through the 80s, there were probably about 30 different clubs that finished in the top 5. Still a great achievement but finishing 3rd in the prem today would be a far greater achievement.

more difficult, yes. But far less memorable. Almost anonymous after twenty or thirty years. And even after back-to-back relegations, bankruptsies and doom .....everybody remembers when Pompey won the FA cup.

 

[est1905]

For those too young to remember, Coppell took players from Greenwich, Crewe, Yeovil, Dulwich Hamlet and Plymouth , got them promoted to the Premier League equivalent ,took the team to 6 minutes from a Cup Final Win and into a Champions League position ( cruelly denied us).
Incredible achievements.
To those who say ‘ah but Glasner actually won the FA Cup’ it would be equally valid to retort that ‘ah but Coppell actually took us to third in the Premier League equivalent and in to a Champions League position.’
Bear in mind that Coppell also similarly took unfancied Reading into the top 8 of the Premier League equivalent.

From my standpoint they are both great managers and I’m going to sit on the fence and say they both deserve the accolade of our greatest ever manager.

The old first division was nowhere near the standard of today's Premiership. I would grudgingly accept that is mostly down to foreign internationals pouring in but in my opinion Coppell would die on his feet in todays Premiership whereas I believe Glasner would be successful in any era.

 

[pssguy]

For me Coppell Is my greatest palace manager. He gets my vote because of the circumstances in which he achieved success and the way in which he treated the club.

I think back to Bert Head and how well he did to get to the first division for the first time and then I remember our relegation and the massive (at the time) budget he was given that year.

Glasner of course is up there with his trophies. He started from a much stronger base of players and stability than the other 'great' candidates but I wonder what kind of team he will have left us with.

I'll never forgive Venables for the Clive Allen/Kenny Samson saga and Big Mal did great things but also got us relegated to League 3.

and League 2, I believe. IIRC, Bert head's final selection was when he selected Jim Cannon for the first time and we beat Chelsea 2-0 with Big Mal in attendance. We were in trouble but Allison's bounce produce 1 point in 6 games and the drop, Style over Substance with him

 

[Inquisitive Aquila]

I watched the preamble to Arsenal v Athletico Madrid, they had several former Arsenal players and one of them it might of been Tony Adams, said make yourselves legends by being the first to achieve something.
Glasner is the first manager to win the Fa Cup; Community Shield and a European trophy. To manager a 19 game unbeaton run and the first for a very very long time do the double over Brighton. So yes Glasner is our best and I never thought Coppell would be relegated to number 2.

 

[nickyf]

Hate to say this but we might not win a trophy for many years to come now unless a billionaire owner comes in and spends shed loads of money on players and builds us a massive state of the art Stadium, The top 6 clubs dominate the premier league and get all the favouritism from Eufa and have financial advantages over the smaller clubs in buying power of top players and wages offered to players from smaller clubs. What we have Achieved under Glasner has showed that it can be done but very difficult to sustain long term without the same resources of the bigger Clubs.

 

[RubinsCube]

The old first division was nowhere near the standard of today's Premiership. I would grudgingly accept that is mostly down to foreign internationals pouring in but in my opinion Coppell would die on his feet in todays Premiership whereas I believe Glasner would be successful in any era.

I agree with this and do not think it is a coincidence that SP became an expert of getting teams out of the Championship within three seasons. I even remember he himself looking back on his career and referring to the second tier as "his league".

I think this reflects what the old Division One used to be like: old fashioned, two up front, physical, more mixed styles, less patterned play. A workmanlike midfield and a good front two could take you far with the right coaching.

 

[nickyf]

The money dominates today's game , too many outside influences and snouts in the troughs , football was more for to the fans and working classes now it's all for the corporate elites.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

Like most of us I expect, I can't stop thinking about our wonderful Wednesday in Liepzig.

I've unashamedly been a fan of Ollie since his arrival. There was something about his style and sense of humour that appealed to me. Although there are many similar posts on here I was going to write a piece about how he managed to overcome the difficulties of losing key players and his internal conflict about his perceived abandonment (we really don't know what went on behind the scenes). He overcame all that and still motivated our team to win a third piece of silverware in a year.

Anyway, I then found this on YouTube and, apologies if you've seen it, but thought it tells the story much better than I possibly could. Enjoy.