German Christmas market

[Stirlingsays]

Something really weird going on here.

I may have to walk back this guy being Islamic.....May, but at this point nothing is certain.

It doesn't make sense....but stuff is coming out that he was/is some sort of atheist anti Muslim pro Zionist.

Ok, so what's with driving into and murdering people at a German Christian market?

What? I mean...What??

If I'm confused imagine how pretty difficult it's going to be for media to know how to handle this. Will they just omit a lot of stuff and call him 'far right'....when in truth he doesn't seem far right either.....and what 'far right' guy murders Germans/Christians at a market?

What did he think that people weren't going to research who he was?.....the guy's meant to be intelligent. Did he think it wouldn't even matter?

There are obviously quite a few missing pieces from this puzzle.

Man, this is so fecked up.

 

[Spiderman]

Or maybe that was how he portrayed himself to claim asylum in Germany? The rise in Middle Eastern men claiming to have converted to Christianity is staggering. Personally I don’t buy into this theory, I have seen to many of these so called “converts”. If I am wrong why the hell target a Christmas market and not a Muslim run gathering?

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Smells fishier than Billingsgate on a hot Summer's day.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

The rise in Middle Eastern men claiming to have converted to Christianity is staggering.

i do recall some of these men dying in a terrorist attack, and then getting a Muslim funeral. So its a very open and generous interpretation of them being Christian.

Folks, Western Europe is beginning to feel like the last days of Rome.....470 AD. A total loss of authority and power at the centre. Chaos reigning. Uncertainty about where things are taking us. Next ? we will see Joe Public looking to Political hard men for protection. And the same as Ancient Rome, the centre is becoming extremely detached from the realities of your local street or village.

2025 will be a difficult year.

 

[Badger11]

Anyone seen a statement from our Government yet? If so, can you refer me to it as I have sent ziltch.
Humza Useless tweeted minutes before attack, criticising Musk for financing AFD, as they are anti Muslim. He has, atm, not removed it

Haven't seen anything from our beloved Mayor yet. I suppose he might say he is horrified but as it is Germany this has nothing to do with him or his role and then he can get back to criticising Trump.

 

[Matov]

Smells fishier than Billingsgate on a hot Summer's day.

And with German elections due in the New Year, and with the AfD on the cusp of doing something very special, even more so.

 

[Spiderman]

And with German elections due in the New Year, and with the AfD on the cusp of doing something very special, even more so.

Interesting and most valid point

 

[eaglesdare]

And with German elections due in the New Year, and with the AfD on the cusp of doing something very special, even more so.

I wouldn't hold my breath. We have seen how real democracy works in the likes of Romania. I'm sure it will be the same in Germany.

 

[Badger11]

I wouldn't hold my breath. We have seen how real democracy works in the likes of Romania. I'm sure it will be the same in Germany.

So far in Western Europe every time a right of centre party (or far right if that floats your boat) has electoral success the other parties have joined up to prevent them taking power.

So the largest party is on the right and yet the voters get a left wing coalition government. Sooner or later the voters will get angry and either vote in sufficient numbers for an outright majority (difficult with some electoral systems) or there could be trouble on the streets.

 

[becky]

I haven't read all the details, but is there any possibility that he had some sort of seizure at the wheel, similar to that woman who smashed into the children at the infants school not so long ago?

 

[Phil’s Barber]

There is absolutely a possibility, however having seen the footage and observed the course of the vehicle and how it was manoeuvred I would think it extremely unlikely. He appears to be in command of the vehicle.

 

[Eagleman13]

I haven't read all the details, but is there any possibility that he had some sort of seizure at the wheel, similar to that woman who smashed into the children at the infants school not so long ago?

Doubt it, as with most markets now, there are concrete blocks laid down all around & in a staggered formation, wide enough for people to navigate in a zig-zag way, reports i've read have said have said that there was a large enough gap for a vehicle to get through at one point, mostly for market stand owners etc to deliver to. He would've known this & that's how he was able to enter the market.

 

[Matov]

I wouldn't hold my breath. We have seen how real democracy works in the likes of Romania. I'm sure it will be the same in Germany.

Arrows. That farce in Romania shows how they don't even pretend we have any kind of democracy now. As I have said on numerous occassions, there ain't no voting our way out of this mess.

 

[Spiderman]

There is absolutely a possibility, however having seen the footage and observed the course of the vehicle and how it was manoeuvred I would think it extremely unlikely. He appears to be in command of the vehicle.

And seemed perfectly ok when exiting the vehicle

 

[Spiderman]

I haven't read all the details, but is there any possibility that he had some sort of seizure at the wheel, similar to that woman who smashed into the children at the infants school not so long ago?

Did that woman have a seizure? Initial reports stated no mechanical fault and no medical issues. I am not entirely sure, the true facts if that case have been divulged, but I do not want to digress from the thread

 

[Eagleman13]

5 confirmed dead now.

 

[ASCPFC]

5 confirmed dead now.

6 I believe with 200 injured. Anything stating this is anything other than an Islamic attack is misinforming you. German police have already said this was a deliberate attack too.
However, give it one day before we start hearing about mental health. As there is no hiding any of the reasons for this: for anyone with the slightest amount of common sense.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Arrows. That farce in Romania shows how they don't even pretend we have any kind of democracy now. As I have said on numerous occassions, there ain't no voting our way out of this mess.

an election Candidate in Ireland ( Michelle Keane ) accused some widespread fraud in the General Election. She ended up in jail for Contempt of Court.
Many commentators have expressed great surprise at the election results.

I seriously doubt the Germans will ever be getting a right wing government. Even Centre-right will be guilt-tripped away from them.

 

[eritheagle]

Haven't seen anything from our beloved Mayor yet. I suppose he might say he is horrified but as it is Germany this has nothing to do with him or his role and then he can get back to criticising Trump.

Or he’ll ban all Christmas markets in London for being Islamophobic and rename one of our tube lines after the perpetrator in Germany!!

 

[Spiderman]

6 I believe with 200 injured. Anything stating this is anything other than an Islamic attack is misinforming you. German police have already said this was a deliberate attack too.
However, give it one day before we start hearing about mental health. As there is no hiding any of the reasons for this: for anyone with the slightest amount of common sense.

Some suggestions that he had made himself look like an anti-Muslim, right wing supporter to avoid the possibility of being sent back to Saudi. Not so far fetched as some would believe