Flags.........& Politics.

Maybe he went over to Iraq to fight for IS...but when he got to the caves he found some coked out old dude asking him about Investment Strategies and advice on stock portfolios.
He couldn’t fire a gun. If he didn’t point at himself when pulling the trigger he’d end up falling backwards and landing on a spike through an organ or up his rectum.
 
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He couldn’t fire a gun. If he didn’t point at himself when pulling the trigger he’d end up falling backwards and landing in a spike through on a spike through an organ or up his rectum.

We want to know did he buy an IS flag while over there and does he fly it outside his house.

Does he have all black carpets and when he sees a woman in a short skirt does he start cursing in strange Arabic?
 
As there would be no dignity for anyone doing that and I was fully clothed anyway, no.

Now perhaps you could answer the question. Rather than just try to be a smart arse. People like you get thumped by people like you for doing that!

Unlike you pip squeak I've always been able to handle myself physically, most real blokes can.
You can call me a smart arse if you like, while you can carry on displaying them at nudist beaches.
 
St.George there never was any such person, it wouldn't be provable anyway.

The flag is not statutory and was not used in either world war.

The legend made centuries after the time he was alleged to have existed, was of a turkish man, a soldier slaying a dragon to save villagers in Libya, Africa.

Did he do the first kebab?

If you are going to have a flag for your country at least have something connected with it.

🙂🙂

Like the "Palestine" flag? Yes there's a connection, Israel is connected to Jordan and it's just their flag with the star removed. And that scarf they wear, not theirs either.

But you endorse it.

Meanwhile, current British Army
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Unlike you pip squeak I've always been able to handle myself physically, most real blokes can.
You can call me a smart arse if you like, while you can carry on displaying them at nudist beaches.
Thanks for proving my point.

Real blokes aren’t macho thugs who think that the answer to anything they disagree with lies their fists. That’s the Yaxley-Lennon view of the world.

Real blokes use reason and respect for others as the way to find common pathways to happiness.
 
Like the "Palestine" flag? Yes there's a connection, Israel is connected to Jordan and it's just their flag with the star removed. And that scarf they wear, not theirs either.

But you endorse it.

Meanwhile, current British Army
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It would be nice if we were.

The lads might be like that but all their leadership is carefully filtered soy.
 
St.George there never was any such person, it wouldn't be provable anyway.

The flag is not statutory and was not used in either world war.

The legend made centuries after the time he was alleged to have existed, was of a turkish man, a soldier slaying a dragon to save villagers in Libya, Africa.

Did he do the first kebab?

If you are going to have a flag for your country at least have something connected with it.

🙂🙂
St George was a Christian martyr, unlike you no suggestion he hated jews
 
You clearly never watch RTE. They seem to love the renaissance of St Brigid....reborn as a) a feminist icon and b) a pagan Druid goddess type.
And the Patrick bloke is barely tolerated through gritted teeth. Probably cos his name sounds a bit like 'Patriarchy' and he is a bit Old School in his Christianity - male pale and stale. The St Patricks day Parade has been hijacked at least as much as the Eurovision Song Contest. Barely scant references to the beardy bloke himself and all that he represented. But a ton of dancing-smiling-fellas that would have defo earned the opprobrium of The Vatican.
Another reason The Elites want to forget St Patrick ? he was part of the large-scale European White Slavery...... a story they conveniently would rather forget about in towns like Bristol where they throw statues into the harbour.


Flags. The St George.....revived and popular with 50% of England, hated by the other half.
The St Patrick Flag.....barely even remembered. Ironic, since its a part of the Union Jack that Sinn Fein so despise. And is hidden within the Flag that Unionists wave so proudly to celebrate (Dutch/English/Scottish types) winning a battle, over the irish, 335 years ago.

I dispute that the flag is so polarizing in itself. Some, of course, are bound to hate it based on their imperial heritage or whatever. However, a lot are uncomfortable because of its adoption by nationalists.

Pride is positive. Liberal use during football tournaments is mandatory. No problem there. It's hatred of those who are not "qualified" to carry the flag where the problems begin.

And on that, nationalism creates a spectrum at one end those of different race, religion who cannot speak the language and who lack any cultural affiliation and, at the other, somebody born in Croydon who supports Palace but who's parents were born in Poland.

Grades of "acceptable" become significant in nationalist controlled countries. Recent history shows where that leads. Please forgive namby-pamby liberal types like me expressing concern that the signs are there again of that specter emerging. Surely we can protect and preserve our culture in ways that do not involve descending back into that mire.
 
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St.George there never was any such person, it wouldn't be provable anyway.

The flag is not statutory and was not used in either world war.

The legend made centuries after the time he was alleged to have existed, was of a turkish man, a soldier slaying a dragon to save villagers in Libya, Africa.

Did he do the first kebab?

If you are going to have a flag for your country at least have something connected with it.

🙂🙂
He probably did exist.

He probably didn't slay a dragon.

However, like I say above, the origin is largely meaningless now. The flag and man have long taken on very different meaning and identity wholly divorced from their early Christian root.
 
Thanks for proving my point.

Real blokes aren’t macho thugs who think that the answer to anything they disagree with lies their fists. That’s the Yaxley-Lennon view of the world.

Real blokes use reason and respect for others as the way to find common pathways to happiness.
I can imagine you two in a fracas with Stirling hurling air shots and Wisbech seeking to reason with quotes from Kant.

I'd queue in the rain for tickets to watch that.
 
I dispute that the flag is so polarizing in itself. Some, of course, are bound to hate it based on their imperial heritage or whatever. However, a lot are uncomfortable because of its adoption by nationalists.
Pride is positive. Liberal use during football tournaments is mandatory. No problem there. It's hatred of those who are not "qualified" to carry the flag where the problems begin.

And on that, nationalism creates a spectrum at one end those of different race, religion who cannot speak the language and who lack any cultural affiliation and, at the other, somebody born in Croydon who supports Palace but who's parents were born in Poland.

Grades of "acceptable" become significant in nationalist controlled countries. Recent history shows where that leads. Please forgive namby-pamby liberal types like me expressing concern that the signs are there again of that specter emerging. Surely we can protect and preserve our culture in ways that do not involve descending back into that mire.
If you think the national flag of England is a symbol that would assist in " descending back into a mire ".

Do you consider the Polish flag in the same way? Is it any national flag you have an issue with or just the English one.?

You are are saying a nationalist, that is a person who strongly identifies with their own nation , is by definition a bad person.

Nationalism is not determined by race, it is determined by love of ,and identifying with one's country.

You are misusing the word nationalist in the same way the left throw around racist and fascist.
 
I can imagine you two in a fracas with Stirling hurling air shots and Wisbech seeking to reason with quotes from Kant.

I'd queue in the rain for tickets to watch that.
I don't suppose he will use this quote:
"Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites."
['Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View'. Book by Immanuel Kant, 1798.]
 
If you think the national flag of England is a symbol that would assist in " descending back into a mire ".

Do you consider the Polish flag in the same way? Is it any national flag you have an issue with or just the English one.?

You are are saying a nationalist, that is a person who strongly identifies with their own nation , is by definition a bad person.

Nationalism is not determined by race, it is determined by love of ,and identifying with one's country.

You are misusing the word nationalist in the same way the left throw around racist and fascist.
You have read in my post what you wanted to see and not what I actually said.

I said national pride is a positive. It's there, in plain English.

The problem is denigrating anyone who isn't English.
 
I dispute that the flag is so polarizing in itself. Some, of course, are bound to hate it based on their imperial heritage or whatever. However, a lot are uncomfortable because of its adoption by nationalists.

Errr? Adoption? That very thought is a misnomer.

Flags represent a people.....the nationalist never 'adopted', it was always about them most of all. It's nationalists you are most likely to find in armies fighting for what it represents.....They never 'adopted' it.

They are it.

The adoption....fake of course, is by the left who try to twist its meaning to include 'diversity, equity and inclusion' which are political concepts alien to its original meaning.


Pride is positive. Liberal use during football tournaments is mandatory. No problem there. It's hatred of those who are not "qualified" to carry the flag where the problems begin.

It's just a mischaracterisation of the truth.

To paraphrase Powell, 'You can love India without wanting India in Birmingham'.

The left's and liberal's attack on the English working class for wanting to keep their own nation the same their ancestors gave to them is the worst betrayal by a ruling class in history.....it's wanton destruction of something much better than themselves and history won't be kind...it's already turning against them as the sectarianism increases.

It's also a double standard as most of those here with foreign allegiance would hate the British/westerners being in their home countries in transformative numbers.

And on that, nationalism creates a spectrum at one end those of different race, religion who cannot speak the language and who lack any cultural affiliation and, at the other, somebody born in Croydon who supports Palace but who's parents were born in Poland.

It's absurd to blame nationalism for an imported problem created by the left and neo/social liberals.
Nationalists were always here.....it's you lot who decided you knew better and declined the country both economically and much more importantly socially.

Grades of "acceptable" become significant in nationalist controlled countries. Recent history shows where that leads. Please forgive namby-pamby liberal types like me expressing concern that the signs are there again of that specter emerging. Surely we can protect and preserve our culture in ways that do not involve descending back into that mire.

I'm afraid for types like you...I just don't think you get how far down the line it is......You're going to get a lot more disappointed I think.....there's no one coming down the pipe to address or dress wounds. And all while it does worsen with sectarianism I don't you will see the part 'namby-pamby' liberals played in bringing us here.

But I see it clear as day.
 
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You have read in my post what you wanted to see and not what I actually said.

I said national pride is a positive. It's there, in plain English.

The problem is denigrating anyone who isn't English.
That is not the preserve of nationalists.

The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world.
 

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