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Five stabbed at ASDA beddington.

DanH said:
Hahaha. You are so bad at this. At least Stirling tries to directly answer stuff.
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I'm not wasting any more time on the deluded. Bye!
 
Reading the last two pages you would be hard pressed to know what the topic of this thread is. It seems to have turned into personal attacks and slagging off of people's beliefs.

I have no doubt this will not turn into a stabby knife fight but those handbags that are being swung around could cause a nasty bruise and force someone to run off and tell their mum they are being picked on.
 
DanH said:
Enjoy this country that you seem to absolutely hate 🙂
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Oh hang on, it's not the country Hrolf hates, it's the direction it's taken under social liberalism/leftism.

Worsened just about every social metric, in fact, I think he speaks for pretty much every conservative minded fellow in the country in that respect.

What's more true is that you lot hated a country that worked much better, was more at ease with itself, had less crime, less mental illness and division......that was the country that you guys decided had to change radically and your lot did so while calling everyone names during it.....Those girls wouldn't have been raped because of scared institutions if that weren't true.....The leftist sacrifice to egalitarianism.

Any rational British person would dislike that.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Oh hang on, it's not the country Hrolf hates, it's the direction it's taken under social liberalism/leftism.

Worsened just about every social metric, in fact, I think he speaks for pretty much every conservative minded fellow in the country in that respect.

What's more true is that you lot hated a country that worked much better, was more at ease with itself, had less crime, less mental illness and division......that was the country that you guys decided had to change radically and your lot did so while calling everyone names during it.....Those girls wouldn't have been raped because of scared institutions if that weren't true.....The leftist sacrifice to egalitarianism.

Any rational British person would dislike that.
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What year was this exactly?
 
DanH said:
What year was this exactly?
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We need a year?

Well, when would you say that social liberalism started to take over from social conservativism in the country? I'd say it started in the sixties and we saw the start of significant laws being changed to egalitarian ones under Wilson....the left made a mess of the economy in the seventies so we had a handbrake under Thatcher in the eighties (even with the problems a far happier country than today)....Then with Blair in the late nineties that handbrake was radically taken off and then you had the 'May' surrender from Tory to liberal and the tacit admittance of poorly managed decline ever since.

Let's put it like this, in a different better era for the country, you wouldn't have been raised/educated into the neo communism you now think is super.....despite the crumbling social society it's created
 
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Stirlingsays said:
We need a year?

Well, when would you say that social liberalism started to take over from social conservativism in the country? I'd say it started in the sixities and we saw the start of significant laws being changed to egalitarian ones under Wilson....the left made a mess of the economy in the seventies so we had a handbrake under Thatcher in the eighties (even with the problems a far happier country than today)....Then with Blair in the late nineties that handbrake was radically taken off and then you had the 'May' surrender from Tory to liberal and the tacit admittance of poorly managed decline ever since.

Let's put it like this, in a different better era for the country, you wouldn't have been raised/educated into the neo communism you now think is super.....despite the crumbling social society it's created
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What year were you born again?
 
Stirlingsays said:
What is this a questionnaire?

I'm 55 Dan.
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So you were born in 69/70 (#maths) and it started going downhill before you were born? You had your meaningful youthful years in the late 80s/early 90s yet you pine for an era you weren’t even born in. It doesn’t make any sort of rational sense.

You can’t plausibly know whether those years were any better or worse from a day to day living perspective. History and nostalgia is always rose tinted, even the personally lived years.
 
DanH said:
So you were born in 69/70 (#maths) and it started going downhill before you were born? You had your meaningful youthful years in the late 80s/early 90s yet you pine for an era too weren’t even born in. It doesn’t make any sort of rational sense.

You can’t plausibly know whether those years were any better or worse from a day to day living perspective. History and nostalgia is always rose tinted, even the personally lived years.
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Is recognising that social metrics were far better for the majority in the country 'pining' for an era? Time travel isn't possible Dan. I thought what I was doing was criticising the direction taken by social liberalism....not that neoliberalism escapes criticism too.

Anyway let's get your logic right here.

So If someone is born at the same time as me in the Soviet Union or say North Korea and all they have known is life under those ideologies, they can't recognise that things were better in the past? Nor can they look at other societies that don't have the same issues (say Poland's lack of terrorism or identity oppressor/oppressed ideology) and recognise that's better?

Come on now.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Is recognising that social metrics were far better for the majority in the country 'pining' for an era? Time travel isn't possible Dan. I thought what I was doing was criticising the direction taken by social liberalism....not that neoliberalism escapes criticism too.

Anyway let's get your logic right here.

So If someone is born at the same time as me in the Soviet Union or say North Korea and all they have known is life under those ideologies, they can't recognise that things were better in the past? Nor can they look at other societies that don't have the same issues (say Poland's lack of terrorism or identity oppressor/oppressed ideology) and recognise that's better?

Come on now.
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Can you post these for scrutiny please.
 
Stirlingsays said:
So If someone is born at the same time as me in the Soviet Union or say North Korea and all they have known is life under those ideologies, they can't recognise that things were better in the past? Nor can they look at other societies that don't have the same issues (say Poland's lack of terrorism or identity oppressor/oppressed ideology) and recognise that's better?
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Lefties don't like the lessons of history. neither the Soviet Union nor last week at Beddington.

Folks...........please keep the thread on track..........stabbing at warehouse in Beddington.
 
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