Farewell Eze?

[DenTyler]

The fundamental issue is our infrastructure.

Parish has done a great job, but he needs the financial backing and vision to create a stadium that will vastly increase our revenue. What we have planned is not sufficient.

I do agree, I do not understand why when you’ve invested to get part of the club you wouldn’t go all in to the maximum to fulfill that investments return. It makes no sense. The owners could fund the stadium in a heartbeat but haven’t. They could easily have funded a few bodies in the door and most important given Ollie a great big bonus and brown envelope to secure his services for 5 more years to take us well into the big boys territory.

I’m baffled why they don’t go all in.

 

[JHB]

I do agree, I do not understand why when you’ve invested to get part of the club you wouldn’t go all in to the maximum to fulfill that investments return. It makes no sense. The owners could fund the stadium in a heartbeat but haven’t. They could easily have funded a few bodies in the door and most important given Ollie a great big bonus and brown envelope to secure his services for 5 more years to take us well into the big boys territory.

I’m baffled why they don’t go all in.

Funding the stadium won’t pay back in the timeframe that they have in mind for when they cash out. As for players they will spend to gradually improve or maintain but not more than that. Why would they? It’s like buying a house. You could spend money to extend it but if you want to sell it in 2 years that’s probably not a good investment from you

 

[Spindle]

Agreed to a point. However, we should’ve done our business early, we are compliant with PSR. Have a centre back and attacking playmaker on the bench for community shield. They slot in when the other 2 leave.

Now it’s hand-me-down panic stations. Hwang from Wolves as Eze replacement. Wooow.

Maybe it's easy on Football Manager no idea never played it

 

[DenTyler]

Funding the stadium won’t pay back in the timeframe that they have in mind for when they cash out. As for players they will spend to gradually improve or maintain but not more than that. Why would they? It’s like buying a house. You could spend money to extend it but if you want to sell it in 2 years that’s probably not a good investment from you

I’m the wrong person to use the house analogy with (being as I’m a property developer) I make my money by purchasing a worn out product and take it to a different market, from say a two bed to a four bed etc. so buying a house that seems like a nightmare has given me a very good living but at times very hardwork… but for 30 years it has always paid dividends.

If I was a billionaire (it’s not been that successful) and I was looking to maximise my profit, I would be making Selhurst the absolute best it could be (well actually I would have looked for somewhere else to really go for it), with the maximum capacity possible. There is huge scope to get weekly gate numbers of 50 or 60 thousand. This would the. Increase the ability to get and keep a better calibre of player, it’s exactly what the Russian did at Chelsea. They were nowhere.

Then the club is a much bigger asset. If that cost £300 - £400 million imagine what the club would be worth. Look at the other post about woody buying the jets for 650 million and now worth billions.

 

[dreamwaverider]

I can understand what you mean and I can still remember seeing the news on a black and white TV when we sold Ian Wright, I was 12 and was devastated. It’s just the reality of football and if Palace have improved in stature in the mean time then football has got worse and favours the bigger clubs far more.

Nobody has ever suggested being a Palace fan is easy. The moment at the end of the cup final where all we wept with the joy - that is why we bother. It is either that or support whoever of the top six is winning, I know what I’m choosing.

PALACE........EAGLES!!!

 

[Jim_Cannon]

There is no stadium in the plan. There is one stand which will take a decade to see any return.
This is just not good enough if we want this club to advance.

The way it is, we will be exactly where we are or worse when many of us are six feet under.

I can't criticise Parish. He has turned the club around. It's the next stage that will need much greater financial commitment and desire.

Sorry I didn’t mean new stadium just the upgrade. Realistically where could we move to with the relevant infrastructure that is relatively close to the existing ground. Crystal Palace park/stadium was explored and deemed not viable.

My understanding is they are exploring closing the stand to do the refurb as much cheaper. Would mean some fans losing out or we ground share for a year

I would be happy with the new stand. I am not sure I want palace in some 40000 plus stadium. End up with too many tourists etc and risk of really poor atmosphere

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Sorry I didn’t mean new stadium just the upgrade. Realistically where could we move to with the relevant infrastructure that is relatively close to the existing ground. Crystal Palace park/stadium was explored and deemed not viable.

My understanding is they are exploring closing the stand to do the refurb as much cheaper. Would mean some fans losing out or we ground share for a year

I would be happy with the new stand. I am not sure I want palace in some 40000 plus stadium. End up with too many tourists etc and risk of really poor atmosphere

If we want to keep your stars, then that is what you need. 50k

I don't say it brings the guarantee of success or comes without negatives, but it allows the club to complete closer financially to the level of the bigger clubs.
Will will never be a United or Liverpool, but we can be an Everton, West Ham, Spurs or Chelsea.
Our recent league position is actually far above where we sit in the football pyramid. It is inevitable that we will have a bad season and end up relegated unless we push ahead, improving revenue streams. There has been an effort to do just that, but it's not enough.

I'd be happier if the board presented a much more ambitious project for Selhurst Park or find someone who will. It's amazing how quickly you can get through red tape when there is a load of money in the mix.
At my age I may never see it happen, sadly.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

As last season proved, you don’t necessarily need to finish 4th for Champions League.

That said, yes, I do believe we could have finished 4th and the many seasons of 12th don’t matter as we are riding a wave combined of momentum & genuine talent and Management that can get the best out of this squad if backed.

Let’s call a spade a spade. 2 months ago, Glasner and the Team thought we had Europa. If we did and if we won it, then we’d have Champions League. Glasner has stated he was assured business would be done early and he would be backed.

This would have had a knock on effect to the rest of the squad that okay, maybe we aren’t the same old tired Palace of old and have ambition.

Would it have stopped Eze moving to Arsenal? Perhaps not, we will never know.

But I now feel as the lowest spending club in multiple leagues, Eze leaving like this will make Guehi and Wharton think what’s the point. We will get some emergency replacement in and they will bed in eventually.

Glasner will probably go because what is the point of working for Clowns. Rightly or wrongly, and I am massively in the camp of UEFA screwed us but he and the Squad will think the Upper Management had one job whilst they did the hard work on the field and that was to get the paperwork done for Europa league.

Glasner will feel like he could’ve won that competition. He will certainly feel like had we spent 50-100mil early he could have a real crack at top 4-6.

This isn’t just Eze leaving. This is Eze leaving after the Conference league relegation, the 2.3m being spent total, Glasner complaining about lack of signings, Guehi uncertain.

It’s truly, truly pathetic all around. We could and should have invested heavily and have a great squad and a happy Manager. Then, if the same news happens, it doesn’t derail as us much.

You think Guehi and Wharton are going to give up after thinking ‘’what’s the point?’’ You clearly haven’t been listening or paying attention. Parish only signs people with good character. Nobody else. And if Guehi and Wharton don’t put the effort in, what do you think that will do to their image future transfer potential and England prospects.

I understand if Glasner wants to leave next Summer, and I see you want us to spend £50-100 mil but unfortunately we have a £200 mil stand to build before even thinking about the Whitehorse and Arfur. Plus we’re losing £35 mil per year. You work it out.

 

[Booted Eagle]

No real surprises here. Guehi will leave as well. The nature of the PL is pretty much unfancied teams that do well in a season aka Ourselves, Brentford, Bournemouth, Forest will have the bigger clubs sniffing about. With so much cash at the top the lower clubs are just feeding grounds for them. The only way to compete is to have an owner/s who wish to treat a club as a plaything and throw huge amount of money and join the party. Otherwise the door to the party is locked and you go around every season scrabbling about trying to fill the holes in the team. Only chance of some glory as a result is the likes of the FA Cup where the big teams r more interested in the likes of the PL/Champs League n most full out early as a result, giving the likes of us a really good punt at it, which we spectacularly did last season with a fully merited Cup win.

 

[dreamwaverider]

Funding the stadium won’t pay back in the timeframe that they have in mind for when they cash out. As for players they will spend to gradually improve or maintain but not more than that. Why would they? It’s like buying a house. You could spend money to extend it but if you want to sell it in 2 years that’s probably not a good investment from you

Which is???
Very few current investors in the premier other than the very savvy arabs at Man City and Newcastle will see any capital gain on their investments.
Most of them are here as Glory Seekers. They have made billions more than they will ever need and are parking it in places where they will be seen for what they are.....the super rich.
None of them have invested to turn a profit.....not even Saudi Arabia or Abu Dhabi. (In fact least of all them. It is however ironic that in both cases they are looking at substantial capital gains.)

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Palace fans seem to be taking this very well.

I'm furious that players still don't think that Palace are good enough for them. The Champions League is just another competition. Arsenal have never won it. In fact, Arsenal may be winning nothing again this season. The Emirates is a Library.

If it's about money, then surely we could pay him more.

Once again, we take two steps backward. Olise, Wan Bissaka and now Eze with Guehi to go now or next season.

Why do we bother?

It is frustrating but it’s reality. If they’re good enough to play for bigger clubs challenging for trophies and getting paid double what they earn at Palace and into the £200k bracket then they will. If it was me I would and so would you I expect.

Why do we bother? Because we support Palace for different reasons than glory hunter fans that pick a team off the telly. With regard to the management of the squad and player trading, I think we’re doing a very good job. Much better than buying Sakho and Benteke. And not selling Zaha actually meant we were hamstrung with buying players. We’ve since sold Olise and been okay.

 

[dreamwaverider]

You think Guehi and Wharton are going to give up after thinking ‘’what’s the point?’’ You clearly haven’t been listening or paying attention. Parish only signs people with good character. Nobody else. And if Guehi and Wharton don’t put the effort in, what do you think that will do to their image future transfer potential and England prospects.

I understand if Glasner wants to leave next Summer, and I see you want us to spend £50-100 mil but unfortunately we have a £200 mil stand to build before even thinking about the Whitehorse and Arfur. Plus we’re losing £35 mil per year. You work it out.

Dont build the stand??!!
Are any spades in the ground yet??

 

[Rudi Hedman]

I understand your frustration at this and I would have liked to kept him too but our business model appears to be based on selling players at their top value and reinvesting in players of a lower age who can then go on to give 5 years or more at Palace. Realistically Eze has about a further 2 to 3 years at the very top and will then be worth significantly less, at which point we will need to reinvest with a lower pot available to spend. Now of course we could make a complete mess of this money and reinvest in players who don't deliver, so this approach does have significant risks. I remember Spurs wasting almost all of the Bale money for instance.
Olise was the one who we should have made more effort to keep because of his age and his ability but the contract he signed had a release clause and one of the biggest clubs in Europe triggered that clause.

I don’t think Parish could have done any more than he did. Olise signed an extension with us but throughout his career he’s had release clauses and is rightly very aware of his ability. As you know, in the original contract his agent demanded a release clause or no signature. It was that or nothing. We got him for virtually nothing at £8 mil.

 

[VinceHilaire]

Just announced on Talk Sport
“Eze will NOT play tonight!”

Not sure how true it is, but I guess it would make sense

 

[Rudi Hedman]

I'm not in the mood for reason.

We are about to sell a player that is really worth watching and was a major contributor to us actually winning something.

I see no positives.

A day or 2 ago you were saying you cannot comment on the window because it hasn’t closed and you don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes and the finances of the club.

I understand your frustration, because I really don’t enjoy the first 2 weeks of the season, but it’s Arsenal who want him, and are no doubt paying him handsomely. He no doubt won’t sign extension so business comes into it for him and us and career progression and challenging himself at the highest level comes into it for him. Unfortunately we aren’t a top 4 club and Arsenal are.

 

[VinceHilaire]

Arsenal target Eberechi Eze will not play for Crystal Palace tonight in Conference League qualifiers - ArsenalNews.co.uk

Crystal Palace have decided that Eberechi Eze will not feature tonight when they take on Fredrikstad FK in the first-leg of the Europa Conference League play-off at Selhurst Park, according to The Sun. The Gunners have agreed a £67.5 million deal with the Eagles to sign the England...

arsenalnews.co.uk

 

[eaglesdare]

It's not like we haven't done to smaller clubs to us what is being done to us currently 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

It is frustrating but it’s reality. If they’re good enough to play for bigger clubs challenging for trophies and getting paid double what they earn at Palace and into the £200k bracket then they will. If it was me I would and so would you I expect.

Why do we bother? Because we support Palace for different reasons than glory hunter fans that pick a team off the telly. With regard to the management of the squad and player trading, I think we’re doing a very good job. Much better than buying Sakho and Benteke. And not selling Zaha actually meant we were hamstrung with buying players. We’ve since sold Olise and been okay.

We need to change reality or be forever a club to be scavenged.
Our nickname should be Carrion, not Eagles.

We have lost Wan Bissaka, Wilf, Olise, and Eze, arguably four of our best ever players making around £167 million.
I'm sure a good chunk of that money has gone towards paying off our annual debt. This is not the way to progress as a club.

 

[eaglesdare]

Arsenal target Eberechi Eze will not play for Crystal Palace tonight in Conference League qualifiers - ArsenalNews.co.uk

Crystal Palace have decided that Eberechi Eze will not feature tonight when they take on Fredrikstad FK in the first-leg of the Europa Conference League play-off at Selhurst Park, according to The Sun. The Gunners have agreed a £67.5 million deal with the Eagles to sign the England...

arsenalnews.co.uk

Arsenal must want him to play on Saturday then.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Well that's nice but flawed logic. Why would Eze even join us? He was playing in London in front of thousands who adored him and getting well paid. Got to play in the FA Cup and League cup too.

I have no issue with players reaching the highest levels they can achieve as long as they conduct themselves properly. I think our lads all have. Just think, we could have Isak or MGW to deal with

Good point. Should have stayed at QPR. Why join Palace?