European Union

[Wisbech Eagle]

Given all the thousands of words that appeared on the old site about the EU it is a little surprising that it hasn't yet been a topic here.

Following the second coming of the American Messiah, the debate over the merits of us rejoining the EU is already lively on other forums and being openly contemplated in some political circles. I can only see that momentum growing. With Starmer meeting Macron today I would be surprised if cautious optimism didn't result.

Many feel that the argument that we are better off inside the EU than outside has been greatly strengthened by Trump's victory and his attitude. Unsurprisingly I agree although I realise it's not imminent. We will need to feel some pain before the obvious cure gets overwhelmingly popular.

Though I doubt whether too many here will avail themselves of the opportunity to sign it there is a petition on this which can be found here:-

Petition: Apply for the UK to join the European Union as a full member as soon as possible

 

[steeleye20]

Thanks WE we'll see how it goes.....

The UK generally unable to even discuss brexit because it is such a failure, it is in the HS2 bracket, all it needs is a bat-shed.

'Armed French police to get new powers at Dover'

MSN

🙄

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Thanks WE we'll see how it goes.....

The UK generally unable to even discuss brexit because it is such a failure, it is in the HS2 bracket, all it needs is a bat-shed.

'Armed French police to get new powers at Dover'

MSN

🙄

We'd better get on to Bruce Wayne and see if he's got one to spare.

 

[ASCPFC]

Thanks WE we'll see how it goes.....

The UK generally unable to even discuss brexit because it is such a failure, it is in the HS2 bracket, all it needs is a bat-shed.

'Armed French police to get new powers at Dover'

MSN

🙄

More like no one will discuss the failure of the EU. All across it - except Ireland, anti-EU parties gaining ground.
Discuss it and our glorious unelected leaders might have to hear how horridly racist and far right we are. Loads of countries closing their borders - racist, Nazi fuckers obviously.
No doubt the UK will rejoin the EU just as it falls apart. It's not too big to fail.

 

[georgenorman]

I think we should start a petition calling on the EU to dissolve itself.

 

[steeleye20]

That's not correct.

We left the EU but nobody else has. It is not true to assume that the right want to leave it, they want to blame it of course just like we blame our politicians.

Why would they want to make themselves poorer and make their problems worse.

Brexit was an example to them they do not wish to follow.

😎

 

[georgenorman]

We should start a petition calling for the abolition of all
forms of government that are superfluous to essentials.

 

[ASCPFC]

That's not correct.

We left the EU but nobody else has. It is not true to assume that the right want to leave it, they want to blame it of course just like we blame our politicians.

Why would they want to make themselves poorer and make their problems worse.

Brexit was an example to them they do not wish to follow.

😎

It is correct, for a start I live in the EU - it's more expensive than the UK. Secondly, no other country has been given the choice.
The people's only other choice - voting for right wing parties.

Temporary Reintroduction of Border Control

Learn which Schengen countries are currently reintroducing temporary border control in accordance with the Schengen Borders Code.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu

 

[georgenorman]

It is correct, for a start I live in the EU - it's more expensive than the UK. Secondly, no other country has been given the choice.
The people's only other choice - voting for right wing parties.

Temporary Reintroduction of Border Control

Learn which Schengen countries are currently reintroducing temporary border control in accordance with the Schengen Borders Code.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu

Reintroducing border controls as reality continues to kick in. Reality has a habit of disrupting the idiotic ideas of the Left.

 

[Spiderman]

Not sure which thread to put thus. Thanks Merkel
“ I will be subjected to inhumane treatment if I get sent back” good scumbag

Shocking moment Syrian asylum seeker pushes widow, 91, down stairs

Sweden is set to deport a Syrian asylum seeker after a shocking video showed him violently pushing a 91-year-old woman down a set of stairs before walking off with her gold necklaces.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Spiderman]

Thanks WE we'll see how it goes.....

The UK generally unable to even discuss brexit because it is such a failure, it is in the HS2 bracket, all it needs is a bat-shed.

'Armed French police to get new powers at Dover'

MSN

🙄

Shame they can’t Police their own coastline

 

[Spiderman]

Given all the thousands of words that appeared on the old site about the EU it is a little surprising that it hasn't yet been a topic here.

Following the second coming of the American Messiah, the debate over the merits of us rejoining the EU is already lively on other forums and being openly contemplated in some political circles. I can only see that momentum growing. With Starmer meeting Macron today I would be surprised if cautious optimism didn't result.

Many feel that the argument that we are better off inside the EU than outside has been greatly strengthened by Trump's victory and his attitude. Unsurprisingly I agree although I realise it's not imminent. We will need to feel some pain before the obvious cure gets overwhelmingly popular.

Though I doubt whether too many here will avail themselves of the opportunity to sign it there is a petition on this which can be found here:-

Petition: Apply for the UK to join the European Union as a full member as soon as possible

Glad you have stopped whining and moved on 👍

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

It is correct, for a start I live in the EU - it's more expensive than the UK. Secondly, no other country has been given the choice.
The people's only other choice - voting for right wing parties.

Temporary Reintroduction of Border Control

Learn which Schengen countries are currently reintroducing temporary border control in accordance with the Schengen Borders Code.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu

Actually you live in Ireland, which remains a member of the EU. If it is actually more expensive than the UK, which seems both unlikely and very difficult to accurately determine, then why attribute it to EU membership? The EU is far from economically homogeneous.

Looks like a convenient scapegoat to me.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Glad you have stopped whining and moved on 👍

Looking at how Trump’s elevation might turn out to be a blessing in disguise is truly moving on!

 

[Spiderman]

Actually you live in Ireland, which remains a member of the EU. If it is actually more expensive than the UK, which seems both unlikely and very difficult to accurately determine, then why attribute it to EU membership? The EU is far from economically homogeneous.

Looks like a convenient scapegoat to me.

TBF he probably has more inside knowledge about the cost of living than you

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Reintroducing border controls as reality continues to kick in. Reality has a habit of disrupting the idiotic ideas of the Left.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with any “ideas of the left”. The way some people seek to attribute everything to politics is ridiculous and pathetic.

It only concerns the practical need to control the activities of the people smugglers. If that means having physical checks at appropriate places then it’s just using common sense. Not ideology.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Actually you live in Ireland, which remains a member of the EU. If it is actually more expensive than the UK, which seems both unlikely and very difficult to accurately determine, then why attribute it to EU membership? The EU is far from economically homogeneous.

Looks like a convenient scapegoat to me.

According to surveys Ireland is between 13.7 & 16% more expensive than the UK
VAT is 23% and income tax is higher.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

TBF he probably has more inside knowledge about the cost of living than you

In his own patch, of course. I could tell you about Cornwall, but not Ireland today. Nor actually too much about other regions of the auak.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

According to surveys Ireland is between 13.7 & 16% more expensive than the UK
VAT is 23% and income tax is higher.

By no means the only metric. The level of income, cost of housing etc all need to be considered. It’s not the level of taxation that matters. It’s ultimately the quality of life that the economy delivers to the people. That’s difficult to measure.

In any event, whether more expensive or not, blaming the EU isn’t appropriate.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

By no means the only metric. The level of income, cost of housing etc all need to be considered. It’s not the level of taxation that matters. It’s ultimately the quality of life that the economy delivers to the people. That’s difficult to measure.

In any event, whether more expensive or not, blaming the EU isn’t appropriate.

The point was that Ireland is more expensive. Prices are higher ergo it's more expensive.