England World Cup squad

[ASCPFC]

I shook my head disapprovingly apropos Henderson and Mainoo.

Wharton clearly offers more than Henderson. Tuchel's managing us like Germany but he probably didn't notice they've been s*** 💩💩💩 for years. I don't mind Mainoo but at the expense of Gibbs White or Palmer or Foden, it's ridiculous. Crap selection. He'll be picking Ben White as Captain next.

 

[esox lucius]

We’ve gone from four players in the squad to one in less than a year 😩

If that spence can get in there and Tyrick doesn’t even get a sniff, I’m seriously wondering about Herman the German

He’s just an enemy agent sent in to sabotage the England team giving a clear run to the final for the homeland

 

[ASCPFC]

He’s just an enemy agent sent in to sabotage the England team giving a clear run to the final for the homeland

Fatherland.

 

[Willo]

Wharton clearly offers more than Henderson. Tuchel's managing us like Germany but he probably didn't notice they've been s*** 💩💩💩 for years. I don't mind Mainoo but at the expense of Gibbs White or Palmer or Foden, it's ridiculous. Crap selection. He'll be picking Ben White as Captain next.

Both Wharton and Foden have the ability to make that 'Killer' pass to open up a defence.
Henderson is 35, is in the 'Twilight' of his career, his best days back in the mists of time.

 

[doi209]

I may be on my own here but Wharton is way behind Palmer. Palmer adds much more. If Palmer can't make it, Wharton has no chance.

 

[Nicholas91]

I may be on my own here but Wharton is way behind Palmer. Palmer adds much more. If Palmer can't make it, Wharton has no chance.

Two different players IMO.

I'd also add that Palmer has had a poor season and not shone when it's mattered most for England.

In the past 12 months or so Wharton has won silverware in a team with a far more limited squad than Chelsea's, is in a European final, has the stats to back him and has had a good season.

Without intending to sound patronising or insulting, and I really mean that sincerely this is just my opinion, I think Palmer's role within a football team is a bit more 'exciting' than Whartons purely because it is more attacking. I think it is therefore juvenile to consider this to mean that he adds 'more' to the team.

 

[rikz]

The one thing england have missed is exactly what wharton offers, I look forward to watching us struggle to break down the first half decent team we play, with them knocking it back and fourth before kane gets bored and drops into the no 6 role, with no one up top.

 

[CrazyBadger]

I can understand Palmer and Foden missing out. Both had shocking seasons. Surprised at Maguire though, as he provides goals from the back, has always been pretty consistent in an England Shirt and will provide some experience in a largely inexperienced back line.

Wharton I get too - Tuchel doesn't fancy him, and Anderson provides different skills, and some bite and aggression in the midfield. I suspect it was a direct choice between the two.. Andersons had more opportunities, and hasn't really had a bad game for England

We've an embarrassment of choices at no.10 - someone's going to miss out. but I am surprised MGW is to be overlooked, especially when your taking Rice, Mainoo, Anderson AND Henderson

But It's the fullbacks that make no sense to me. Nico O'reilly, Reece James, Djed spence, and Livermento? that's 2 starters, and 2 flakey injured backups. The omission of Lewis Hall for DjedSpence is baffling. (and I still think Mitchells worth going as the best defender).

Up front we are stuggling for options. and probably why we won't win. that's why I actually admire the inclusion of Toney. He's a natural striker, who can come on and make a difference. A gamble, maybe, but when your only other option is Danny Welbeck, a worthwhile one.

 

[Willo]

I can understand Palmer and Foden missing out. Both had shocking seasons. Surprised at Maguire though, as he provides goals from the back, has always been pretty consistent in an England Shirt and will provide some experience in a largely inexperienced back line.

Wharton I get too - Tuchel doesn't fancy him, and Anderson provides different skills, and some bite and aggression in the midfield. I suspect it was a direct choice between the two.. Andersons had more opportunities, and hasn't really had a bad game for England

We've an embarrassment of choices at no.10 - someone's going to miss out. but I am surprised MGW is to be overlooked, especially when your taking Rice, Mainoo, Anderson AND Henderson

But It's the fullbacks that make no sense to me. Nico O'reilly, Reece James, Djed spence, and Livermento? that's 2 starters, and 2 flakey injured backups. The omission of Lewis Hall for DjedSpence is baffling. (and I still think Mitchells worth going as the best defender).

Up front we are stuggling for options. and probably why we won't win. that's why I actually admire the inclusion of Toney. He's a natural striker, who can come on and make a difference. A gamble, maybe, but when your only other option is Danny Welbeck, a worthwhile one.

I am not furnished with information as to his form this season but it is accepted that the League in which he has been 'Ploughing his furrow' is far inferior in quality to that of the PL.
Toney would be useful in a penalty shoot out !

 

[BromleyMonkey]

I’ve just listened to some guff about they’ve picked players judged on who can cope best with the heat after stats gathered from their hot weather camp last June.
I know the heat could play a big part, especially as England can look laboured after a long season in tournaments anyway, but I’m not having that as an excuse for some of the Germans crazy decisions

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I can understand Palmer and Foden missing out. Both had shocking seasons. Surprised at Maguire though, as he provides goals from the back, has always been pretty consistent in an England Shirt and will provide some experience in a largely inexperienced back line.

Wharton I get too - Tuchel doesn't fancy him, and Anderson provides different skills, and some bite and aggression in the midfield. I suspect it was a direct choice between the two.. Andersons had more opportunities, and hasn't really had a bad game for England

We've an embarrassment of choices at no.10 - someone's going to miss out. but I am surprised MGW is to be overlooked, especially when your taking Rice, Mainoo, Anderson AND Henderson

But It's the fullbacks that make no sense to me. Nico O'reilly, Reece James, Djed spence, and Livermento? that's 2 starters, and 2 flakey injured backups. The omission of Lewis Hall for DjedSpence is baffling. (and I still think Mitchells worth going as the best defender).

Up front we are stuggling for options. and probably why we won't win. that's why I actually admire the inclusion of Toney. He's a natural striker, who can come on and make a difference. A gamble, maybe, but when your only other option is Danny Welbeck, a worthwhile one.

Sky pundits this morning reckon Toney is in for penalty shootouts when Kane has gone off knackered after an hour. Not a bad gig as long as he scores.
The media have gone quiet on Bellingham who was the future of England football not long ago.

 

[OneStevePerrin]

I’m yet to see Wharton play well for England in his few appearances so I understand that. As biased as I am I cannot understand Mitchell not being selected. I guess Tuchel has made that clear in all his squads since becoming manager. Henderson in midfield before Gibs White and Toney selected shows how poor this manager is. Our other ex players now play for Man City and Arsenal. Which is why we are down to just one and I doubt he will get a game :-(

 

[1969eagle]

I may be on my own here but Wharton is way behind Palmer. Palmer adds much more. If Palmer can't make it, Wharton has no chance.

Also behind anderson I think. I am delighted for palace but sad for Adam . Increases chances of him staying for another year if rest of world doesn’t get to see how good he is 😎

 

[ASCPFC]

Also behind anderson I think. I am delighted for palace but sad for Adam . Increases chances of him staying for another year if rest of world doesn’t get to see how good he is 😎

More likely he'll want to leave knowing he'll be a shoe in if he's at a big club. Loads going aren't good enough. They're not that good in the Premier League.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

The one thing england have missed is exactly what wharton offers, I look forward to watching us struggle to break down the first half decent team we play, with them knocking it back and fourth before kane gets bored and drops into the no 6 role, with no one up top.

Hang on, that sounds like Palace

 

[PalazioVecchio]

I’m yet to see Wharton play well for England in his few appearances so I understand that. As biased as I am I cannot understand Mitchell not being selected. I guess Tuchel has made that clear in all his squads since becoming manager. Henderson in midfield before Gibs White and Toney selected shows how poor this manager is. Our other ex players now play for Man City and Arsenal. Which is why we are down to just one and I doubt he will get a game :-(

the top of the Prem table will always trump the bottom half.

 

[mileend]

I’m yet to see Wharton play well for England in his few appearances so I understand that. As biased as I am I cannot understand Mitchell not being selected. I guess Tuchel has made that clear in all his squads since becoming manager. Henderson in midfield before Gibs White and Toney selected shows how poor this manager is. Our other ex players now play for Man City and Arsenal. Which is why we are down to just one and I doubt he will get a game :-(

His first England game was his best so he hasn't forced the issue with great performances though unlucky with timing of injuries and so on. But having Jordan Henderson picked ahead of him is just bizarre even though Tuchel said that he wanted that Henderson in the squad basically as a cheerleader on the day of his very first squad. Weird then. Weirder now.

Hopefully Adam will show them exactly what the country is missing next Wednesday with another masterclass of midfield play that will heap a whole load of difficult questions on Tuchel's head.

 

[Painter]

No Wharton or Mitchell in the squad is a benefit to Palace. They wont be associated with failure and have a good rest over the summer, ready for next season.

 

[mileend]

No Wharton or Mitchell in the squad is a benefit to Palace. They wont be associated with failure and have a good rest over the summer, ready for next season.

Good points. Both have some underlying injuries that could do with a proper rest. Also ready for first game of the season though if England go out early that probably won't be an issue for any of the national squad.