Jason Smith
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No offence was meant, mate. My father is a paddy, which makes me a ‘genuine plastic paddy’!
Dublin....Palace
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Jason Smith
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West Belfast, definitely!
kingdowieonthewall
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PalazioVecchio
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Not Irish anymore. Arsenal's gone blud. Innit.
The death of County Kilburn
This corner of northwest London was once known as the 33rd county of Ireland. Did its disappearance take the soul of Irish London with it?
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Chelsea is more the flavour of Glasgow Rangers - so 100% British.
How Crystal Palace have taken over from their London rivals to become the city’s ‘Irish’ club
The emotional sight this week of a grainy video of Bob Dylan singing Rainy Night In Soho at a gig gave weight to the belief that it took an Irishman, Shane MacGowan, to write the songs that say more about the capital of England than any pure-bred Londoner could manage.
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PalazioVecchio
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Culchies refer to Dubliners as Jackeens. cos we waved the Union Jack when Queen Victoria visited town.
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cillian Murphy..........a Paddy
Nigel Murphy from Croydon............a plastic paddy
and of course , the ultimate insult ?
A Murphy from South Dublin who went to a Rugby playing school 'a West Brit'
Malcolm Al
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Maybe you would understand why it's offensive if you had gone to a south London school with an Irish accent in the 80s like I did. That was a terrible experience and I gradually lost the accent. So now when I open my mouth and a south London accent comes out but I say I'm Irish every gobsh1te feels entitled to say the same thing.... "so you're a plastic Paddy then"
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identity is very fluid these days. Would you consider a Micky Murphy from Boston to be Irish ? Or all the John Leydon/Shane McGowans who speak with an English accent. There are lots of the latter living in Ireland.
The term 'plastic Paddy' i never found offensive, but other people can reserve the right to be offended if they wish.
If you restricted irish identity to only those who could speak Irish-Gaelic, you would probably only have 5% of the nation.
Got the accent ? N.I. .... its impossible to tell if a Nordie is British or Irish just from the accent. And all the Alaistair Mc Alaistairs get p1.ssed Off when you call them irish.
I would class both yourself and myself as Anglo-Irish......except that such a term is reserved for an Eton/Harrow landowning gent. Its all a big mess. Some of the most hardcore IRA supporting types have an English accent, and some Paddy O'Flaherty types from Kerry are basically Unionists.
Plastic Paddy never bothered me. But the most embarrassing one is when travelling abroad ( especially France) and the locals smile " ah , you are Irish, i hate the English too "
People love to remember the crimes of Oliver Cromwell.......and conveniently forget the fact that he fecked over half of England too.
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Forest Hillbilly
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whatever the lineage of your resident Irish person, there was a general distrust of the English, which kind of bonded them. For some, it was a hatred of the English, while others it was a simmering indifference.
There's a lot of Irish in the world, who have spent very little time (if any) in the Emerald Isle, and they wax lyrical about their yearning for 'home'
Well, for those Palace going to the game in Dublin, you might well find yourselves exposed to a city in a bit of turmoil. Immigration has totally changed some areas and there are many residents who don't recognise their own city, from as little as 10 years ago
Just be a bit careful in Dublin
There's a lot of Irish in the world, who have spent very little time (if any) in the Emerald Isle, and they wax lyrical about their yearning for 'home'
Well, for those Palace going to the game in Dublin, you might well find yourselves exposed to a city in a bit of turmoil. Immigration has totally changed some areas and there are many residents who don't recognise their own city, from as little as 10 years ago
Just be a bit careful in Dublin
I have Irish ancestry but I consider myself English and I am not interested in paddy's day. I have friends who are plastic paddy's for 364 days of the year they are English and then 1 day....
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For those who frequent Croydon. You will feel right at home 👍🏻
Malcolm Al
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It really isn't that complicated; ethnicity and nationality are not the same thing. Anglo-Irish is an ethnic label; born in Ireland but of English stock... that is not me and I doubt it's you either.
I'm not reserving the right to be offended by the term "plastic Paddy"; I am offended, as invariably it's used as a sneering p1ss take. I had enough p1ss take and aggravation at school for being Irish and now as an adult I'm not going to accept some smart-4rse calling me "plastic"...
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I was born in Dublin. However I grew up in england. I now live between the two countries. Have both the accents. No idea what that makes me? Some sort of hybrid?
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Sean Hughes reported getting a hard time at school in Ireland for his English accent.
kids can be horrible little feckers to each other. We all know this. My personal opinion is that the only place for 'Home countries animosity' is on the football pitch. The national team and all of that. Try to explain that to Plastic Paddies Harry Kane, Jack Grealish and Declan Rice.
And in the Green shirt you get the Galway accent of Clinton Morrison.
Our Eagle Clinton, who has about as much irish DNA as Millwall's friend Rio Ferdinand. Not to be confused with England legend Wayne Rooney who has more irish DNA than U2 , but probably less than the Beatles.
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something similar. I can completely pass for local in both jurisdictions. Family all interlinked between the two places also.
And i despise the Provisional IRA and UVF in equal measure.....nasty dreamer sectarian nutters both of them. - both trying to ethnically-cleanse each other out of existence.
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Aviva ,is the biggest soccer stadium in Ireland, the biggest stadium is croke park ...a" G.A.A "...Gaelic football association....seats 83,000....but soccer not played there ..unless very unusual events ....and reasons that would virtually be life changing
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I would concede that the plastic paddy jibe was a buzzword and not a term of endearment but more insulting was (to anyone with an accent) to be called Paddy or Mick as was the comedy of the day. Times change, it was generational but we don’t forget.
Life and the political outlook can depend on where you live and those you interact with, it’s easy to cast opinions, ignorance is bliss.
I look forward to spending the evening in Dublin (I’ll be down tomorrow putting the feelers out) if I can’t get a ticket hopefully I’ll be amongst fellow Palace supporters in the city centre.
Life and the political outlook can depend on where you live and those you interact with, it’s easy to cast opinions, ignorance is bliss.
I look forward to spending the evening in Dublin (I’ll be down tomorrow putting the feelers out) if I can’t get a ticket hopefully I’ll be amongst fellow Palace supporters in the city centre.
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Had a little look at the hotel prices around the game out of curiosity.
Blimey they are mightily expensive. There is certainly no £39 premier ins or Travelodges.
Blimey they are mightily expensive. There is certainly no £39 premier ins or Travelodges.
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Airbnb might be an option
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Funny , I was born in Mayday Hospital in Croydon . Went to school in West Croydon , Both my parent are from Tipperary, When im in England everyone calls me Paddy and when im in Ireland everyone calls me a plastic Paddy , I never lost my Croydon accent. All i know is Palace till i die . No offence taken here . at least im not a plastic United or Liverpool fan .