Missing something here, 13 years in the Premier league and silverware that I can say we all thought we would never see in our life time - what exactly is this ambition or next level you are talking about? We will never be a top 6 or even a consistent top 10 team. Maybe look to the real men with the money, our American owners and ask why they don't want to put their money in?
Crystal Palace vs Chelsea match thread
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Willo
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Another dire result which many expected.
We have now gone 11 games without winning and this includes the Macclesfield debacle. We have only won 4 out of 17 Home games all season (All competitions) and our last win at Selhurst Park was in early November.
Our top scorer has only scored 1 goal from 'Open Play' in his last 17 games.
Captain departed, and manager not interested in staying beyond the end of this season.
I understand one of the journalists on the 'Sunday Supplement' this morning tipped us for relegation, along with Burnley and Wolves and there was some surprise from the host.
We are really in the 'Merde', in serious trouble, and I fear we are heading for that relegation trapdoor.
We have now gone 11 games without winning and this includes the Macclesfield debacle. We have only won 4 out of 17 Home games all season (All competitions) and our last win at Selhurst Park was in early November.
Our top scorer has only scored 1 goal from 'Open Play' in his last 17 games.
Captain departed, and manager not interested in staying beyond the end of this season.
I understand one of the journalists on the 'Sunday Supplement' this morning tipped us for relegation, along with Burnley and Wolves and there was some surprise from the host.
We are really in the 'Merde', in serious trouble, and I fear we are heading for that relegation trapdoor.
I think you will find that, due to the structure and equal voting rights, Parish has to put their money same amount in. This be cannot do,
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However LAW (pedant!) 12 says nothing at all about whether or not the ball would have gone into the potentially offending player's goal; there's quite a bit about if it goes into the opposition's goal (though I'd be bound to say the next paragraph doesn't make sense). The questions, regardless, are whether the player clearly intended to handle or whether the position of hand or arm made their body unnaturally bigger - that is "when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation". England had ruled on that and decided there'd been no offence. Obviously these things are a matter of interpretation - as indeed is the question of whether any error which some observers might think the referee had made was 'clear and obvious'. The duration of the argument seemed to me to deal adequately with that latter consideration; it was a long debate if it was about something clear and obvious. If VAR advised the ref that goalscoring opportunity issues affected considerations determining whether the particular handling of the ball in question did or didn't constitute the handball offence then he was at fault - though to be fair the mess in which that section fo the law has been left means you could hardly accuse him of a clear and obvious error.
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Slight caveat but who thinks Sosa actually had a good 15/20 mins ( not sure exact )
What I saw was ok and he didn't f*** up once .
Couple of good penetrating passes and a great corner .
Every cloud ?!? Eh ?
What I saw was ok and he didn't f*** up once .
Couple of good penetrating passes and a great corner .
Every cloud ?!? Eh ?
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He will be a free agent and do what he did here £100k/wk for two years. That’s if Glasner finds a club big enough to pay it.
The Chelsea c*** who committed 2 bookable offences in the first half. Let’s talk Darren England… he has reffed 15 of our league games and we have win 1! Just saying. According to IFAB rules it was not a penalty and no yellow card. Chalobahs handball in 2nd half was nailed on.
The way things are going Glasner may struggle to find a club at all. Being sacked for going on months long winless run or alternatively taking a club down who were 4th in October are generally not the sort of things that make you an attractive option.
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The biggest problem this season is clearly the amount of games we have played and the quality of the squad. However playing in Europe is clearly detrimental to all teams of a similar size to us.
We did invest in players in the summer, but unfortunately they have not been up to the quality required and it is nearly impossible to get every transfer right.
Now we can all point the finger at Parish and the board, but take into account that Forest spent £180m in the summer and they are still below us (for now!) so it shows that even when you spend big, playing in Europe kills teams like ours.
I don't believe that voting structure etc has anything to do with how much someone wants to put up if they want to buy a player or pay for a new stadium, otherwise you might as well kiss goodbye to our premier league status. They are billionaires, Parish is League One in comparison.
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Ref decision s aside .
We are getting found out at half time .
Look at the performances either side .
It's like chalk and cheese .
Every team manages to open us up second half .
That's the problem with the system .
It's been mentioned before OG is a one trick pony , albeit it was a bloody good one .
We are getting found out at half time .
Look at the performances either side .
It's like chalk and cheese .
Every team manages to open us up second half .
That's the problem with the system .
It's been mentioned before OG is a one trick pony , albeit it was a bloody good one .
I think the poor second half performances have also exposed OG as a coach. He’s either making no tactical adjustments at half time or ones that aren’t working. It’s a pattern now. The most egregious example was Macclesfield where the players looked confused and lacking motivation.
Today our second half performance was a complete shambles.
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Once again the lumbering Mateta missed a good opportunity to score. As soon as he broke through I said "He's not going to score" and of course we all know the outcome.
In my humble opinion he was garbage but this is what we have come to expect of him. With our 'Shape' he is the focal point of our attack but he rarely wins headers or retains possession. He lumbers around and word I used for him this afternoon equates to an animal that brays. He offers nothing at present and I suspect many supporters will not shed a tear when he departs.
In my humble opinion he was garbage but this is what we have come to expect of him. With our 'Shape' he is the focal point of our attack but he rarely wins headers or retains possession. He lumbers around and word I used for him this afternoon equates to an animal that brays. He offers nothing at present and I suspect many supporters will not shed a tear when he departs.
There are those that are progressive & those that are happy with their lot.
The progressive is not where you sit !
But that’s ok just accept other think differently from you to not accept the status quo
We won the cup
But that was when ? Here we are now & let’s accept we were above our station - No !!! Let’s be progressive
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Shouldn’t compare us to other teams. We know what makes our team work and it wouldn’t have taken much to keep that going but we chose not to. We are generally the creators of our own downfall.
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I think the difference is that the Man Utd keeper could and probably would have saved it. I think the rule is about a shot that is goal bound, i.e. a shot that is going to go in the net had it not hit the player's arm - a shot that couldn't have been stopped by the keeper or any other player. That wasn't the case with the Maguire incident.
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Paul Salvage
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So by your reasoning, we needed to spend more to be successful?
Have a look at the money spent by all premier league teams and their relevant positions in the league.
West Ham, Forest, Leeds, wolves, Burnley all spent more than us but are also all below us.
Our net spend is one of the lowest in the summer, but that is because we sold Eze so late, and we had to deal with Textor selling his shares.
The point I am making is that spending money doesn’t always bring success.
The second file shows that we are the 10th highest nett spenders since the start of 21/22 season.
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Do you support a different team to me, 'happy with their lot' hardly something I've ever heard a Palace support say!!
You don't know where I sit, so don't presume from a few words on here that you do.
When I hear the words progressive and clubs like ours, I'm so glad that we do have Parish in charge, as we all know what happened to Charlton and we must push on to this magical next Level.
Trying desperately to look for something positive today.
Well when Glasner takes the Man Urd job at the end of the season we can take Carrick.
After all, he's won his first two games v Man City and Arsenal and we were interested in him when he was at Middlesbrough!
Don't be too confident about Riad being the solution for this season if the rumours are correct that we're looking to loan him out with Sheffield Utd a candidate.
As he hasn't played for ages I suppose you could see the logic, but we better have some experienced quality lined up ( no Brighton reserve centre backs).
As he hasn't played for ages I suppose you could see the logic, but we better have some experienced quality lined up ( no Brighton reserve centre backs).