60 m 2-3 players. Who do you get and why

It isn't the plan to sell our best players every season, that isn't sustainable and remain in the Premier. Southampton and now Wolves tried that and just go down the plughole to the Championship.
Not to sell all our best players every year, no, but certainly to sell the best one every year, give or take.

You don't need to convince me of the pitfalls, I agree with you and would add Leicester to your list. Even so, we have sold our best player each summer for the last two years and would have made it three if Glasner hadn't kicked off about Guehi leaving.

The shift in approach a few years back was to start signing good up and coming players with sell on value. No way would any of them have signed if they thought they'd be here for their best years. Wharton will be next. The question is, as per the topic, who do we spend the money on afterwards?!
 
Glasner said yesterday that he was about to bring on Esse to add some pace to the attack but Guehi scored so he changed his subs for a more defensive line up. It means, though, Esse is about to be brought back into the fold presumably because he is listening and learning.

I wonder if the pre-match talking to by Clinton Morrison before the match has anything to do with it?

Yep it was an interesting soundbite.

Any maybe seeing Uche play ok will have helped his cause too.
 
But back to the original question, I'd like to see

Kees Smitt - Partly for this season, but mainly for the future. Kamada is out of contract in the summer and I suspect we'll have some bids come in for Wharton.

Sacha Boey - Looks like he's surplus, so now would be a good time to go an get him. Long term Munoz replacement (who will be 30 in the summer). In the short term provides cover and gives us the option of pushing Munoz up to give Sarr a rest.

Then its clear that we need some more up-top, I'd have a look at Sindre Walle Egeli, Fatawu, Tyrique George. Would even look at a loan, and get Esse out on loan.
 
anybody except for tired old journeymen on their way down the slide. Doesnt matter if it was Messi/Ronaldo. Old men are not hungry. Not to put their limbs on the line in a tough tackle.

PSG Conquered the World with a squad full of kids and unknowns. I would hate to see Palace signing anybody over the age of 28. Considering we sell to Elite clubs, we need to buy young....develop them and sell them at a profit.
 
But back to the original question, I'd like to see

Kees Smitt - Partly for this season, but mainly for the future. Kamada is out of contract in the summer and I suspect we'll have some bids come in for Wharton.

Sacha Boey - Looks like he's surplus, so now would be a good time to go an get him. Long term Munoz replacement (who will be 30 in the summer). In the short term provides cover and gives us the option of pushing Munoz up to give Sarr a rest.

Then its clear that we need some more up-top, I'd have a look at Sindre Walle Egeli, Fatawu, Tyrique George. Would even look at a loan, and get Esse out on loan.
I suspect Wolves' Jorgen Strand Larsen will be available at the end of the season.
He provides a different dynamic to Mateta, as he is a throw-back centre-forward who gets on the end of crosses.
I have also mentioned Josh Sargent, a high-energy player, is fleet of foot and is capable aerially.
 
Strand Larsen might actually be available in January. With Wolves guaranteed to go down they might cash in on him now as he won’t want to play in the Championship. He looks to be a decent player.
 
I suspect Wolves' Jorgen Strand Larsen will be available at the end of the season.
He provides a different dynamic to Mateta, as he is a throw-back centre-forward who gets on the end of crosses.
I have also mentioned Josh Sargent, a high-energy player, is fleet of foot and is capable aerially.
I wonder why Josh hasn’t been snapped up. Looks a decent player and only at Norwich so they must want cash. Not sure if he’s playing atm .
 
A bit of an offshoot to this thread, but we have lost Zaha, Olise and Eze in the past couple of years, and will definitely lose Guehi, with risk against Wharton, Munoz and Mateta in the forthcoming windows. Wolves have continually sold their best players, and it has got them 2 points from 15 games this season. I acknowledge that Brighton and Brentford have done the same, but to my mind Brentford may still be on a slippery slope. I am always glass half-empty, but we have the potential to get into trouble rapidly if we lose our manager and continue to shed our best players without major replacements. Don't know who we should buy, but the right players are rarely the higher profile ones that most of us know about.
 
A bit of an offshoot to this thread, but we have lost Zaha, Olise and Eze in the past couple of years, and will definitely lose Guehi, with risk against Wharton, Munoz and Mateta in the forthcoming windows. Wolves have continually sold their best players, and it has got them 2 points from 15 games this season. I acknowledge that Brighton and Brentford have done the same, but to my mind Brentford may still be on a slippery slope. I am always glass half-empty, but we have the potential to get into trouble rapidly if we lose our manager and continue to shed our best players without major replacements. Don't know who we should buy, but the right players are rarely the higher profile ones that most of us know about.
This echoes my view in conversations I had tonight.
 
I'm quite skeptical about the January window in general.

Clubs needing to turn their results around fast because of precarious league positions overpay in January. Clubs doing well tend to want to keep their better players.

Put those two factors together and getting good players, within budget, is much harder in January than in the summer.

Add to that our own situation: anyone coming in and displacing a current first team player would have to be very good right now. On the other hand who wants to move on loan to a club just to swap one bench for another?

For these reasons I would be happy with a couple of decent loans from players not getting minutes at clubs and who could do a job for us squad wise or cameo wise. It didn't work out in terms of minutes with Chilwell but that sort of player.

Ideas would include Harvey Elliot if there is a way to get him out of his Villa loan. Tzolis at Brugge with an option to purchase. Sacha Boey isn't getting regular minutes at Bayern.

Chelsea have a bloated squad and there are bound to be players there who would slot in for half a season. Tyrique George has been mentioned and I am sure there are others.

The major replacements will probably come in summer windows. And hopefully this summer with the manager signed to an extension.
 
Tyrique George from Chelsea would be high on my list. Already has prem and European experience. Plays for England u21s. Exciting, can play across the front three and we seem to have good connections with Chelsea. Perhaps loan to buy.
Beyond that I’d be happy with some loans, not sure if Gallagher would be open to a short term return. Those two would improve us and give great options for the 2nd half of the season
 
We have been selling top players and buying developing players to give a good team.

Need to look at those we have out on loan. Other teams will look in the above areas.

Need to identify treasures in the academy and seeming unwanted players at other clubs.

Who knows, with enough match time players could blossom in a palace team.
 
A bit of an offshoot to this thread, but we have lost Zaha, Olise and Eze in the past couple of years, and will definitely lose Guehi, with risk against Wharton, Munoz and Mateta in the forthcoming windows. Wolves have continually sold their best players, and it has got them 2 points from 15 games this season. I acknowledge that Brighton and Brentford have done the same, but to my mind Brentford may still be on a slippery slope. I am always glass half-empty, but we have the potential to get into trouble rapidly if we lose our manager and continue to shed our best players without major replacements. Don't know who we should buy, but the right players are rarely the higher profile ones that most of us know about.

Whist nobody wants to lose our best players we have to be proactive in dealing with the situation.

JPM is a perfect example, 28yo, c.£40 valuation 18 months left on his contract. If he wont sign an extension we either:

Sell him this summer for £30-40m

Sell him in the winter window for peanuts

Lose him for nothing in summer '27

We clearly have to sell him. And we need to hope that there is someone out there with some decent cash.
 
A bit of an offshoot to this thread, but we have lost Zaha, Olise and Eze in the past couple of years, and will definitely lose Guehi, with risk against Wharton, Munoz and Mateta in the forthcoming windows. Wolves have continually sold their best players, and it has got them 2 points from 15 games this season. I acknowledge that Brighton and Brentford have done the same, but to my mind Brentford may still be on a slippery slope. I am always glass half-empty, but we have the potential to get into trouble rapidly if we lose our manager and continue to shed our best players without major replacements. Don't know who we should buy, but the right players are rarely the higher profile ones that most of us know about.

I think you are spot on, other than I don't think it's something we can choose to avoid.

Not to dwell on my previous post but being a key stage, but not the final aim, in the career plans of decent players is something we must accept if we want those decent players to join us. Even if the club doesn't have any financial need to sell, it will be an inherent part of the understanding between club and player that they are here to do a good job for a few years and then they are off to bigger things.

We will see more Geuhi-type situations in the coming years; a good player with a good attitude will give his all for Palace, achieve as much as can be hoped for, show the world how good he is, then have a reasonable expectation of a shot at the big time and decline to let that chance slip through his fingers by signing a new deal with us.

The problem is not so much selling the best player every year, its when players like Mateta, Munoz, Lacroix, Henderson, Mitchell etc look at Olise, Eze, Guehi, and surely Wharton sooner or later, as they all leave to go to the next level, and demand the same. Why shouldn't they? If they stay here and sign long term contracts with us they will probably only regret it, like Zaha so evidently did. Then you get the worst of both worlds, a player not as hungry as he was who has faded a little in his heart, to whom we have committed so big a contract that we have to build the team around him and it limits us financially elsewhere.

In recent years Wolves, Southampton, and Leicester all got into Europe, knew they couldn't hold onto the players who got them there once the big boys came calling, then 'sold well' and trusted they could repeat the process, but ended up soulless, hollowed-out shells who went down with not one functioning heart or pair of bollocks between them. All of them, plus Brighton and Brentford could choose a brilliant XI of the team they could have had if they had kept their best players, but it can't be done.

That's why the OP question is so important: Who is the next wave of players in the cycle? The thing is, whoever they are, I don't think they'll be supplementing the existing core so much as the beginning of replacing it.

I think maybe Price at West Brom, has looked good for Norn Ireland but might be a flash in the pan.

Perhaps Troy Parrott, though only if Mateta leaves and even then he would probably block Nketiah and stop us getting value from him, which we might do if he becomes the main No9.

Jordan James might be one to watch, but no reason to think he's good enough at the moment.

Jay Stansfield at Brum seems promising, I think Fulham rated him, but not enough to pick him.

Hayden Hackney seems the best bet.
 
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I suspect Wolves' Jorgen Strand Larsen will be available at the end of the season.
He provides a different dynamic to Mateta, as he is a throw-back centre-forward who gets on the end of crosses.
I have also mentioned Josh Sargent, a high-energy player, is fleet of foot and is capable aerially.
Yes to both. But...

We never seem to be the club that asset strips the relegated. Fulham, West Ham, Everton yes. Us, seldom.

[Edit: perhaps it is different this year given our Sporting Director is ex Wolves?]

Sargent is the highest valued striker in that division and gets a lot of good press. Thus, ditto the last comment.

If we get a forward player, I suspect it will be someone few on here have heard of.

Btw, of that £60m fighting pot, we may blow the lot on Diomande from Sporting.
 
I think you are spot on, other than I don't think it's something we can choose to avoid.

Not to dwell on my previous post but being a key stage, but not the final aim, in the career plans of decent players is something we must accept if we want those decent players to join us. Even if the club doesn't have any financial need to sell, it will be an inherent part of the understanding between club and player that they are here to do a good job for a few years and then they are off to bigger things.

We will see more Geuhi-type situations in the coming years; a good player with a good attitude will give his all for Palace, achieve as much as can be hoped for, show the world how good he is, then have a reasonable expectation of a shot at the big time and decline to let that chance slip through his fingers by signing a new deal with us.

The problem is not so much selling the best player every year, its when players like Mateta, Munoz, Lacroix, Henderson, Mitchell etc look at Olise, Eze, Guehi, and surely Wharton sooner or later, as they all leave to go to the next level, and demand the same. Why shouldn't they? If they stay here and sign long term contracts with us they will probably only regret it, like Zaha so evidently did. Then you get the worst of both worlds, a player not as hungry as he was who has faded a little in his heart, to whom we have committed so big a contract that we have to build the team around him and it limits us financially elsewhere.

In recent years Wolves, Southampton, and Leicester all got into Europe, knew they couldn't hold onto the players who got them there once the big boys came calling, then 'sold well' and trusted they could repeat the process, but ended up soulless, hollowed-out shells who went down with not one functioning heart or pair of bollocks between them. All of them, plus Brighton and Brentford could choose a brilliant XI of the team they could have had if they had kept their best players, but it can't be done.

That's why the OP question is so important: Who is the next wave of players in the cycle? The thing is, whoever they are, I don't think they'll be supplementing the existing core so much as the beginning of replacing it.

I think maybe Price at West Brom, has looked good for Norn Ireland but might be a flash in the pan.

Perhaps Troy Parrott, though only if Mateta leaves and even then he would probably block Nketiah and stop us getting value from him, which we might do if he becomes the main No9.

Jordan James might be one to watch, but no reason to think he's good enough at the moment.

Jay Stansfield at Brum seems promising, I think Fulham rated him, but not enough to pick him.

Hayden Hackney seems the best bet.
Good post, but doubt Borough will sell before the summer; and only if they don't go up.
 

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