Here we go, blatant two tier judiciary

[DanH]

My point Dan, is that if a jury of the representative public doesn’t think that a jail sentence-or any punishment-is applicable in these circumstances, then sentencing guidelines for when there isn’t a jury are hopelessly adrift from the reality of what the public want. Get it?

If the ‘reality of what the public want’ isn’t the person to get a fair trial and the law applied rather than a lynch mob based on frothing online opinion then god help us all.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

If the ‘reality of what the public want’ isn’t the person to get a fair trial and the law applied rather than a lynch mob based on frothing online opinion then god help us all.

Wow, Dantifa-H. You were active on this thread at 1:13am and again at 7:30 am....... and who says that The Left never sleeps ?

Maybe The Left are not Hitler after all ? considering the antiSemitic Socialist with the moustache slept through most of the Dunkirk evacuation and Normandy D Day. Are you on amphetamines ?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Wow, Dantifa. You were active on this thread at 1:13am and again at 7:30 am....... and who says that The Left never sleeps ?

Maybe The Left are not Hitler after all ? considering the antiSemitic Socialist with the moustache slept through most of the Dunkirk evacuation and Normandy D Day. Are you on amphetamines ?

Feeling the need for speed?

 

[Rudi Hedman]

I think my favourite thing about this verdict has been the numerous Conservatives telling us this is not an example of two-tier justice. LOL. The Tories still don't seem to have grasped the reality that many of us on the Right hate them more than the Left.

The Left make no bones about championing anybody with a bit of a suntan over the native population. Which I don't have an issue with because they are honest about it.

But the Conservatives are treacherous scum. I hold them FAR more accountable for this current state of affairs than Labour because it all turned to s*** under their 14 years in Government. I want them wiped out forever. Consigned to the history books.

I do. And you don’t?

 

[Rudi Hedman]

What everyone really knows but it doesn’t suit the agenda on here.

Ricky Jones case should not be compared to Lucy Connolly, lawyer says

Jurors deliberated for just over half-an-hour and found Ricky Jones not guilty on Friday

www.independent.co.uk

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She said: “He (Farage) is suggesting that these 12 people, about whom I assume he knows nothing, have not made their decision on the evidence but on some other ulterior motive.

“They are 12 members of the jury, picked at random, who have done their civic duty, have listened to the evidence in the case and concluded they could not be sure that Ricky Jones was guilty.

“Due to the way our jury system works they are not required, and certainly are not permitted, to explain the reasons for their decision.”

She added: “All we know is that the jury found Ricky Jones not guilty. We don’t know why. We also don’t know the political background of any of these people. We don’t know their views on immigration or on race.

“We don’t know any of that stuff and that is the whole point.”

Thing is, Stirling was correct about the demographics of the area around Snaresbrook and the racial bias decisions on juries.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

‘Thing is, Stirling was correct about the demographics of the area around Snaresbrook and the racial bias decisions on juries.

you would wonder how the trial would have gone ? had it been Tommy Robinson making the same throat slashing gesture ? or if a left-leaning type had written the facebook posts mentioned below ?

First men jailed for riot-related social media posts

Jordan Parlour was sentenced to 20 months in jail for urging people to target a hotel housing asylum seekers and refugees. Shortly after, Tyler Kay was also jailed for his own posts calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set alight.

news.sky.com

 

[Rudi Hedman]

you would wonder how the trial would have gone ? had it been Tommy Robinson making the same throat slashing gesture ?

We don’t know the political background of any of jury and we don’t know their views on immigration or on race is what the legal woman in that article says. However, I would bet at least 10 black or Asian people were on the jury but actually that number is probably 12.

 

[Common Sense Club]

The jury literally don’t take any personal circumstances into account - their one and only job is literally to assess whether the person broke the law of which they are claiming they are not guilty of doing so.

Personal circumstances are taken into account when sentencing if found guilty.

I suggest it would be ‘common sense’ to educate yourself a bit more about the British legal system before posting more on this.

Gosh!…my common sense is what is missing in this world. Personal circumstances not taken into account, you say? So why did the defence hark on about his racial bullying during his youth?
I am glad you are happy that identical ‘crimes’ can have two totally different outcomes…most of us aren’t.

 

[Common Sense Club]

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She said: “He (Farage) is suggesting that these 12 people, about whom I assume he knows nothing, have not made their decision on the evidence but on some other ulterior motive.

“They are 12 members of the jury, picked at random, who have done their civic duty, have listened to the evidence in the case and concluded they could not be sure that Ricky Jones was guilty.

“Due to the way our jury system works they are not required, and certainly are not permitted, to explain the reasons for their decision.”

She added: “All we know is that the jury found Ricky Jones not guilty. We don’t know why. We also don’t know the political background of any of these people. We don’t know their views on immigration or on race.

“We don’t know any of that stuff and that is the whole point.”

Thing is, Stirling was correct about the demographics of the area around Snaresbrook and the racial bias decisions on juries.

As I said elsewhere, racism is the biggest crime today…merely threatening death to others isn’t, apparently. Jones would still have been found innocent if he been handing out knives during his speech; as long as he didn’t refer to killing whites only he would be fine…

 

[Common Sense Club]

If the ‘reality of what the public want’ isn’t the person to get a fair trial and the law applied rather than a lynch mob based on frothing online opinion then god help us all.

God help us if a section of the community thinks slitting throats is acceptable…isn’t that what happened to those poor young girls in Stockport? Nice to know that mentality is acceptable.

 

[DanH]

Wow, Dantifa-H. You were active on this thread at 1:13am and again at 7:30 am....... and who says that The Left never sleeps ?

Maybe The Left are not Hitler after all ? considering the antiSemitic Socialist with the moustache slept through most of the Dunkirk evacuation and Normandy D Day. Are you on amphetamines ?

It’s called having a nearly 2 year old who seems to think sleep is for everyone but her.

 

[DanH]

‘
She said: “He (Farage) is suggesting that these 12 people, about whom I assume he knows nothing, have not made their decision on the evidence but on some other ulterior motive.

“They are 12 members of the jury, picked at random, who have done their civic duty, have listened to the evidence in the case and concluded they could not be sure that Ricky Jones was guilty.

“Due to the way our jury system works they are not required, and certainly are not permitted, to explain the reasons for their decision.”

She added: “All we know is that the jury found Ricky Jones not guilty. We don’t know why. We also don’t know the political background of any of these people. We don’t know their views on immigration or on race.

“We don’t know any of that stuff and that is the whole point.”

Thing is, Stirling was correct about the demographics of the area around Snaresbrook and the racial bias decisions on juries.

How was he ‘right’? Firstly he showed the area was roughly half white british, so if you are assuming the jury is the same make up then that’s half of them. You could have also had other white people on there that don’t fit into that category.

Even then, you then have to take the even greater leap that somehow all 12, including the white British people on the jury, came to their verdict based purely on a racial basis and completely disregarded the oath they took when sworn in and committed perjury.

You lot are utterly deluding yourself if you think it’s the case. Utterly blinded by race politics when most people don’t give a f*ck about it.

 

[DanH]

God help us if a section of the community thinks slitting throats is acceptable…isn’t that what happened to those poor young girls in Stockport? Nice to know that mentality is acceptable.

Is all you have left hyperbole? Who said slitting throats is acceptable?

Even he said what he said wasn’t acceptable. He just wasn’t guilty of the crime he was accused of.

Is the mentality of encouraging people to set light to hotels full of asylum seekers acceptable? Is putting razor blades under National Front stickers (of which RJ’s comments were about) acceptable?

 

[DanH]

As I said elsewhere, racism is the biggest crime today…merely threatening death to others isn’t, apparently. Jones would still have been found innocent if he been handing out knives during his speech; as long as he didn’t refer to killing whites only he would be fine…

You need reporting to trading standards for your username.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Is all you have left hyperbole? Who said slitting throats is acceptable?

Even he said what he said wasn’t acceptable. He just wasn’t guilty of the crime he was accused of.

Is the mentality of encouraging people to set light to hotels full of asylum seekers acceptable? Is putting razor blades under National Front stickers (of which RJ’s comments were about) acceptable?

Interesting that Lucy Connelly’s words were the direct result of young girls being murdered , whilst Jones’ words are aimed at the protesters against those murders.
Neither comments were acceptable but different conclusions…

 

[Common Sense Club]

You need reporting to trading standards for your username.

Get some sleep, Dan…

 

[DanH]

Get some sleep, Dan…

I wish 🙂

 

[georgenorman]

If the ‘reality of what the public want’ isn’t the person to get a fair trial and the law applied rather than a lynch mob based on frothing online opinion then god help us all.

Yes, before you know it, there will be mobs tearing down public statues and throwing them in rivers.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Yes, before you know it, there will be mobs tearing down public statues and throwing them in rivers.

or the odd lynch mob being excused ? So is he telling us 'Its ok cos their attack was 'routine everyday' and not really a racially motivated attack ? When the video evidence was all up there, before mostly disappearing. The comments under the speech have divided into Left & Right. Surprise surprise.

do some crimes get a ton of bad publicity and other crimes get deleted ? is it all two-tier ?

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7537807215915322646

 

[DanH]

An adult replies.

Always amusing when those who are supposed to believe in ‘law or order’ show they don’t actually believe in anything of the sort.