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Palace potentially denied entry to Europa League?

Plaistow Eagle said:
The whole thing is a joke and just goes to show how corrupt UEFA is..!!

If this were City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc.. This would already be sorted..!!

Press are whipping it up as are other protagonists e.g. Forest..!!

We simply now have no case to answer - Textor has sold his shares to Johnson - so we are not a multi owned club..!!

Not that we ever were anyway - everyone knows Parish runs the club - like it or not..!!

UEFA must know that if this went to CAS our expulsion would not stand up to scrutiny and would fail under Legal challenge..!!

My view is that this is all about Lyon and Textor and not us..!!

COYP
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No, he hasn't.

But it would be a good cop-out for EUFA to say he has contracted to sell his shares and that is enough. After all, if they will accept something as paper thin as a blind trust...
 
DANGERCLOSE said:

Textor telling lies about the appointment of Glasner
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What else do you expect he’s desperate..!!

Textor reminds me of Allen Sanford - remember him he offered £Ms for a one off England vs West Indies test match..

The whole thing was off the back of a Ponzi scheme - that he latterly got convicted for..!!

Textor is the proverbial “emperor with no clothes”..!!

COYP
 
ex hibitionist said:
the possible way out, acc to a Talksport Euro football expert whose name I cannot recall, is if our FA can fast track the approval of Textor's sale to Johnson, normally that takes 2 or 3 months, Johnson's record is quite transparent so they could speed up the process, a lot of the problems it seems don't involve the issues themselves but getting them sorted in time.
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straight forward buy outs are cleared in 3 weeks , man city take over was cleared in that time , so should hear by next week that Johnson is now the owner of textors shares
 
All the talk about textor and Glasner link , he was allowed to put forward a person he has heard about for the job , but still down to parish and freedman to follow up and offer with board approval , what do you think scouts are used for
 
In the history of English football if a club was sent packing down the football league for going bankrupt or for other misdemeanours NOT one has been reinstated because it was deemed to be detrimental to not having them in the top division. But here we are with the slippery French and the American chancer…

This is the sole reason that this basket case of a situation is carrying on for so long. If the boot was on the other foot we would have been demoted no questions asked. No hearing, no reprieve, end of!

I want the FA and the Premier League step up now and put some pressure on UEFA, they are not doing their jobs. I know plenty of HOL folk who say “ they can’t act because they do not know what is going on” BULLSHIT they know alright they are just sitting on their hands because it suits them. Pre season starts soon and the club, players, staff not to mention the fans really need to know….

I feel better now 😊
 
Inquisitive Aquila said:
Reading the article from the CFCB First chamber they state "the CFCB first chamber has decided to postpone its assessment of the multi-club ownership case involving Olympique Lyonnais and Crystal Palace". That suggests they have not decided what their ruling will be! Could it be and those with legal knowledge are better placed to comment than I, are the CFCB concerned that any decision they announce could be construed as prejudicial for Lyon`s case before the French federation?
Lyon were fortunate to qualify for the Europa League, Strasbourg only needed to draw at home to Le Havre needed to win to avoid the relegation play off. Strasbourg were in front twice but NINE minutes into injury time they conceded their second penalty of the game to lose and drop into the conference league. Will Strasbourg take legal action if they are denied a Europa league place by Lyon being reinstated? If Strasbourg are 'promoted' presumably Lens who currently have missed out on European competition will take their place in the Conference league. How do Lens view that scenario?
I do not understand the suggestion by some to refuse a place in Europe. On TalkSport they quoted an 84 yeard old Palace fan who just wanted to travel to a European away game for Palace. We may not qualify again for many years, next season may be our best opportunity. If we are in the Europa league there are several very attractive potential opponents for instance Roma and Porto. If we end up in the Conference league, Chelsea won it last season and West Ham a few years ago, it would be an opportunity to go a long way and if we were to win it automatic Europa league qualification.
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I doubt Strasbourg will take action, as imo, that result stinks. Bear in mind, at that time Chelsea may have been in Europa League. Who owns Strasbourg?
 
BromleyMonkey said:
I think possibly you’re just confusing the play offs, group stage and the round of 16

No-one is in the round of 16 yet! We don’t have to qualify, we go straight into the group stage which has 32 teams!!
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I apologise if I'm a bit thick about all things European, but I do think the table that Wikipedia published is vey misleading.
 
Uphill said:
After reading this in today's Times by the respected Martin Samuel explaining the utter shenanigans at UEFA I feel we are for it:

Watch out, Palace, you may get stitched up good and proper​

In 2005 Uefa was faced with a dilemma. Liverpool had won the Champions League, but finished outside the Premier League qualification places for the following season’s tournament. No problem, you may think, they simply return as holders. Except nobody at Uefa had made provision for that. It had never occurred to anyone within the organisation that a team capable of becoming champions of Europe would not also qualify domestically.

So they turned to the FA for help. English football could remedy this, by taking out the fourth-placed qualifiers and giving the berth to Liverpool. The fourth-placed team that season was Everton. Brian Barwick was chairman of the FA at the time and a known Liverpool fan.

He approached the problem from two directions. The first was through an innate sense of fair play. That season’s domestic competition had begun with the understanding that the top four qualified for the Champions League. Everton had done that, fair and square. It was not right to then tell them that, no, their achievement had been overwritten by a rule not even in place. His second motivation — though never stated — was that he probably liked having a house with windows and a company Jag that wasn’t on fire, and both of those preferences were best served by not removing Everton and giving their spot to his team, Liverpool.

So Barwick informed Uefa it was not the FA’s job to make its rulebook work and suggested it found a way of resolving its own problem. Which Uefa duly did. It put Liverpool in at the first qualifying stage and amended the rules so that, in future, if the holders did not qualify automatically, they took the place of the last through the door — which is what happened when Chelsea usurped Tottenham Hotspur in 2012-13.

AC Milan v Liverpool - UEFA Champions League Final

Liverpool have benefited in the past from flexible Uefa rules regarding Champions League qualification
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Meaning when it really matters, Uefa tiptoes around even its most keenly held principles, all of which makes one think Crystal Palace are about to get stitched up good and proper. Uefa seems to be doing all it can to give Lyon time to fight their demotion to France’s Ligue 2 over the financial chaos that has engulfed the club. If they are reinstated, that puts them back in the Europa League and may bounce Palace out, because John Textor still had an interest in both clubs when Uefa’s multi-ownership deadline for this season’s competition passed on March 1.

So Palace are punished for not anticipating a first trophy win in their history from months out, while Lyon’s own deadlines for compliance appear elastic. A cynic would suggest that, as this will be Lyon’s 38th season in Uefa competition, compared with Palace’s first, with the next game Lyon’s 254th, a degree of favouritism may be in play.

Then there is agitation from Nottingham Forest, who seek promotion from the Conference League to the Europa League in Palace’s place, and whose owner, Evangelos Marinakis, is also a seasoned European campaigner and knows how to play the blind-trust game rather well to get around multi-ownership issues. That is why Forest welcomed several new directors before the March 1 deadline, and bade them farewell in June, once they could not be in the same competition as Marinakis’s other club, Olympiacos.

So it’s a racket and those on the inside know how to work the system, while those outside watch, astonished by the audacity of it all. The latest suggestion is that Palace may take legal action over the delay in Uefa’s ruling on Lyon, although their own plea for Uefa to set aside its March 1 deadline may count against that. And if you think it all sounds as if they make it up as they go along, according to who is the richest, the most powerful and most politically astute, you may know much more than you think.
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Called it very early on and have maintained it. UEFA are no better than gangsters, a disgusting organisation of corruption, they didn't clear up when Platini went, someone simply put corrupted him.
 
est1905 said:
This is a point myself (and others) have repeatedly tried to make but some on here just dont seem to get it.
Say you own a car and are desperate to sell it. You're not going to let your brother take his family down to Cornwall in it for two weeks are you? You're going to say sorry bruv, but a buyer might come in for it and I dont want to miss the boat.
Its the same thing (ish). Textor was never putting his shares in a blind trust for reasons which at the time were so remote (you could probably have got over 11/1 on Palace winning the FA cup in March) that he probably saw it as an almost impossibility that we'd qualify for Europe when he was trying to sell those shares and probably thought there was a very good chance someone would have bought them from him before FA cup final day anyway.
And even if all of that does go against him (which it did) we'd STILL have qualified for Europe if it hadn't been for Lyon qualifying for the same competition!
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What sort of boat are you thinking of buying?
 
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ex hibitionist said:
the possible way out, acc to a Talksport Euro football expert whose name I cannot recall, is if our FA can fast track the approval of Textor's sale to Johnson, normally that takes 2 or 3 months, Johnson's record is quite transparent so they could speed up the process, a lot of the problems it seems don't involve the issues themselves but getting them sorted in time.
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Those dirtbags don't want to help. They're only concerned with culture promotion as a nice facade whilst looking after the giants.

They're c****
 
HighworthEagle said:
Agree .. just had a look at the Wikipedia entry you mention … I thought I understood it before .. now totally confused!
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You are correct regarding the competition format; but what they have done is incorrectly add the 13 seeded teams to the 23 (TBD) teams that will be taking part in the league stage, with 36 teams in the league stage.
 
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