US Politics

[CPFCSaturn]

1% change in population is massive. Especially if there were just under a million votes and most of those immigrants would be the ones voting.

It's just like London’s migrants lock in Labour.

Are you just going to ignore the point that every candidate in this particular vote was a Democrat..?

 

[Badger11]

Right, but I don't think a 1% change in the population can reasonably be described as a 'huge influx', nor do I think a voting result can be attributed to a 1% change in population.

That's without getting into the fact this was to determine who the Democratic mayoral nominee is, which to be clear means all of the candidates are Democrats...

True but even the BBC said that NY is a democratic town. It's hard to see a Republican or 3rd candidate beating him.

I saw a PBS documentary about NY politics over the last 100 years. A long list of incompetent Mayors, mainly democrats with a sprinkling of Republicans. They make Mayor Khan look like Einstein.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

True but even the BBC said that NY is a democratic town. It's hard to see a Republican or 3rd candidate beating him.

I saw a PBS documentary about NY politics over the last 100 years. A long list of incompetent Mayors, mainly democrats with a sprinkling of Republicans. They make Mayor Khan look like Einstein.

You're missing my point.

He has won the Democratic Mayoral candidacy, beating other Democrats to it.

So the suggestion that he won as a result of a 'massive influx of immigrants who are more likely to vote democrat' quite literally doesn't make sense, given you could only vote for a democrat.

 

[eaglesdare]

Are you just going to ignore the point that every candidate in this particular vote was a Democrat..?

Just adds to the point that trump and musk called it.
The left’s open border policies stack loyal voters tilting primaries their way.

 

[Houston Eagle]

You're missing my point.

He has won the Democratic Mayoral candidacy, beating other Democrats to it.

So the suggestion that he won as a result of a 'massive influx of immigrants who are more likely to vote democrat' quite literally doesn't make sense, given you could only vote for a democrat.

I think what is more at play is the political position of this candidate versus a more moderate and incompetent option in Cuomo.

The general perception for Democrats to be more successful was to move away from the extreme elements. This result paints a different picture.

Small sample size but makes for an interesting conundrum pre mid terms!!

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Just adds to the point that trump and musk called it.
The left’s open border policies stack loyal voters tilting primaries their way.

Goodness me, what is the point.

Fact no longer exists.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I think what is more at play is the political position of this candidate versus a more moderate and incompetent option in Cuomo.

The general perception for Democrats to be more successful was to move away from the extreme elements. This result paints a different picture.

Small sample size but makes for an interesting conundrum pre mid terms!!

Fair enough, that at least makes sense as a point!

I don't know much about NYC's politics specifically, but in my experience 'extreme' or more left-wing ideas are generally more popular on the ground than in party headquarters or in the media - Labour had the same thinking that to be more successful they had to move back towards the centre, and look how that has gone.

More broadly, people are looking for alternatives from the 'tried and tested' which I think Cuomo represents. Whatever you think of him, Mamdani's approach is new and different, and that has an appeal in itself, particularly when the tried and tested has failed so many times.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Goodness me, what is the point.

Fact no longer exists.

New York has a massive number of foreign born in it.....Much like London people would be shocked at what they expect and what they see.

The U.S. foreign-born population of New York grew from 31.1 million in 2000 (11.1% of the population) to 46.1 million in 2022 (14.3%). New York’s immigrant share is notably higher than the national average.

But that foreign born number is misleading because it doesn't factor into plain view that in 2020, 45.3% of the state’s population was non-white.

Much like London whites vote far less on racial grounds than ethnic minorities.

Much like London it's a significant reason that it is now going to have a Muslim as major.

The left are traitors.

Wherever there is a white demographic their mission is to import non white populations to wrestle power away.....and then call you a racist for objecting.

 

[eaglesdare]

New York has a massive number of foreign born in it.....Much like London people would be shocked at what they expect and what they see.

The U.S. foreign-born population of New York grew from 31.1 million in 2000 (11.1% of the population) to 46.1 million in 2022 (14.3%). New York’s immigrant share is notably higher than the national average.

But that foreign born number is misleading because it doesn't factor into plain view that in 2020, 45.3% of the state’s population was non-white.

Much like London whites vote far less on racial grounds than ethnic minorities.

Much like London it's a significant reason that it is now going to have a Muslim as major.

The left are traitors.

Wherever there is a white demographic their mission is to import non white populations to wrestle power away.....and then call you a racist for objecting.

I have seen it happen first hand in two different countries now. I thought when I moved I had gotten away from it and maybe it would follow me in 10-20 years. Blimey how the time has flown by.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yep, been saying this for some time.

I think it also factors in to why everything happened now.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I think what is more at play is the political position of this candidate versus a more moderate and incompetent option in Cuomo.

The general perception for Democrats to be more successful was to move away from the extreme elements. This result paints a different picture.

Small sample size but makes for an interesting conundrum pre mid terms!!

To me it simply proves that populism is not just a phenomenon of the right.

The left can make unfunded, unrealistic promises too and get believed. If Trump can do it at a national level in the USA, and Farage can do it here, then this guy can do it in New York.

The Democrats need to distance themselves immediately from this if the USA is to stand any chance of returning to any kind of truthful politics.

 

[the silurian]

To me it simply proves that populism is not just a phenomenon of the right.

The left can make unfunded, unrealistic promises too and get believed. If Trump can do it at a national level in the USA, and Farage can do it here, then this guy can do it in New York.

The Democrats need to distance themselves immediately from this if the USA is to stand any chance of returning to any kind of truthful politics.

No such thing as "truthful politics" either in the USA or in once Great Britain..

 

[Badger11]

Good day for democracy, despite how some in the media are slanting this.

Trump hails 'win' as Supreme Court curbs judges' power to block his orders - live updates

The 6-3 decision is a major boost for the president and his agenda, which has been repeatedly blocked by lower courts.

www.bbc.co.uk

Protestors have been judge shopping and getting injunctions from local judges against national decisions. There was the judge in Hawaii who ruled against Trump on an immigration issue that related to Arizona, so why not ask an Arizona judge to rule.

This isn't about who is right and whose is wrong but about individual junior judges imposing their will on the nation. These issues can still be ruled on but by higher courts.

We would not expect a JP to stop Starmer's welfare bill.

 

[Houston Eagle]

To me it simply proves that populism is not just a phenomenon of the right.

The left can make unfunded, unrealistic promises too and get believed. If Trump can do it at a national level in the USA, and Farage can do it here, then this guy can do it in New York.

The Democrats need to distance themselves immediately from this if the USA is to stand any chance of returning to any kind of truthful politics.

A little common ground on this one and I think that is the general perception from most moderate Democrat leaning observers.

I think 2028 wont be won on extremes and the party that reigns in those elements will win comfortably.

Difficult to see either party changing course yet! Mid terms might dictate future direction!!

 

[cryrst]

A little common ground on this one and I think that is the general perception from most moderate Democrat leaning observers.

I think 2028 wont be won on extremes and the party that reigns in those elements will win comfortably.

Difficult to see either party changing course yet! Mid terms might dictate future direction!!

Free stuff wins every time !

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Good day for democracy, despite how some in the media are slanting this.

Trump hails 'win' as Supreme Court curbs judges' power to block his orders - live updates

The 6-3 decision is a major boost for the president and his agenda, which has been repeatedly blocked by lower courts.

www.bbc.co.uk

Protestors have been judge shopping and getting injunctions from local judges against national decisions. There was the judge in Hawaii who ruled against Trump on an immigration issue that related to Arizona, so why not ask an Arizona judge to rule.

This isn't about who is right and whose is wrong but about individual junior judges imposing their will on the nation. These issues can still be ruled on but by higher courts.

We would not expect a JP to stop Starmer's welfare bill.

It was only to be expected given the composition of the Supreme Court.

Now the responsibility passes to the States themselves to take up the fight against executive overreach and issue injunctions in the higher courts. It’s far from over. Avoiding the drift towards an autocracy might just start to interest the Senate too, when the mid terms draw closer.

 

[Stirlingsays]

'It was only to be expected given the composition of the Supreme Court.'

This is the same guy who sold the idea on this very forum that we shouldn't infer political bias in judges over decisions that they reached.

 

[eaglesdare]

'It was only to be expected given the composition of the Supreme Court.'

This is the same guy who sold the idea on this very forum that we shouldn't infer political bias in judges over decisions that they reached.

It's not worth it anymore 😅

 

[Badger11]

'It was only to be expected given the composition of the Supreme Court.'

This is the same guy who sold the idea on this very forum that we shouldn't infer political bias in judges over decisions that they reached.

The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on whether Trump's policy is legal. This ruling means that minor judges who are politically opposed to Trump cannot issue national injunctions. Trump was elected by the country these judges by a handful of local people.

Those who are opposed to Trump's polices can still use the courts just at the correct national level.

Some have claimed this is an attack on democracy actually it's the opposite. Minor officials should not be allowed to obstruct the national government. These are constitutional issues and need to be decided by a court of the appropriate standing.

I expect that a junior judge could still halt a deportation of an individual but not halt the policy.

 

[eaglesdare]

The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on whether Trump's policy is legal. This ruling means that minor judges who are politically opposed to Trump cannot issue national injunctions. Trump was elected by the country these judges by a handful of local people.

Those who are opposed to Trump's polices can still use the courts just at the correct national level.

Some have claimed this is an attack on democracy actually it's the opposite. Minor officials should not be allowed to obstruct the national government. These are constitutional issues and need to be decided by a court of the appropriate standing.

I expect that a junior judge could still halt a deportation of an individual but not halt the policy.

Most of these lower level judges are activist judges. They really shouldn't be judges let alone have that kind of power.