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The bbc, again.

It's just a matter of time before the TV Licence system is abolished, regardless of who is in power. If you don't like that, it's just tough.
Already under consideration. However the establishment have a new wheeze we will all pay for it with no opting out and it will be based on your property value.

So I live in a nice home and don't use the BBC I will pay top dollar whilst someone who is an avid user and lives in a not so nice home will pay less for their entertainment.

Defunding the BBC is not on the agenda. You would think with the number of licence payers falling significantly year on year it would be. Not so, they just need a better way to empty our pockets.
 
Already under consideration. However the establishment have a new wheeze we will all pay for it with no opting out and it will be based on your property value.

So I live in a nice home and don't use the BBC I will pay top dollar whilst someone who is an avid user and lives in a not so nice home will pay less for their entertainment.

Defunding the BBC is not on the agenda. You would think with the number of licence payers falling significantly year on year it would be. Not so, they just need a better way to empty our pockets.
You are paying to fund our national broadcaster. Our face to the world. Doing it in a way which tries to avoid direct political interference. Not via taxation. If people are avoiding their contributions then an alternative is needed. I think an internet and cell network levy is the way forward. A levy which is ring fenced for a single purpose only. Not immediate replacement but over a number of years, with matching reductions in the licence fee until it is no longer worth collecting it. No need to collect via the completely ridiculous and out of date council tax.
 
You are paying to fund our national broadcaster. Our face to the world. Doing it in a way which tries to avoid direct political interference. Not via taxation. If people are avoiding their contributions then an alternative is needed. I think an internet and cell network levy is the way forward. A levy which is ring fenced for a single purpose only. Not immediate replacement but over a number of years, with matching reductions in the licence fee until it is no longer worth collecting it. No need to collect via the completely ridiculous and out of date council tax.
Make it a subscription service. If people want it they'll pay for it.
 
Make it a subscription service. If people want it they'll pay for it.
They know that large numbers of the public don't want to pay for it but they will ignore that.

All the leaks coming from the BBC and government are that they want a broadband tax which will be collected by phone companies. Of course if you opt out legally now that will not be an option they want to close that loophole. This would be great for the beeb as easy to collect (not their problem).

The other wheeze that the BBC is pushing is to make it a proper tax rather than a licence. The richer you are the more you pay.

No one is looking at scrapping the licence all together and letting the BBC fund it self. That is not on the table.
 
Make it a subscription service. If people want it they'll pay for it.
You are missing the point! The BBC is not just a take or leave it commercial broadcaster selling a product. They are our national broadcaster and face to the world. We might not approve of that face anymore than we approve of the policies of an incumbent government but that doesn’t mean we can just pay tax on only those things we do approve of. Nor not for the BBC.

As the BBC isn’t wholly paid for through taxation, in order to avoid political interference, we all need to pay in a different way. If avoidance of the licence is happening then the method must change.
 
You are missing the point! The BBC is not just a take or leave it commercial broadcaster selling a product. They are our national broadcaster and face to the world. We might not approve of that face anymore than we approve of the policies of an incumbent government but that doesn’t mean we can just pay tax on only those things we do approve of. Nor not for the BBC.

As the BBC isn’t wholly paid for through taxation, in order to avoid political interference, we all need to pay in a different way. If avoidance of the licence is happening then the method must change.
The BBC is the self proclaimed national broadcaster but their Reithian idealism has long since disappeared.
Let them take advertising.
 
They know that large numbers of the public don't want to pay for it but they will ignore that.

All the leaks coming from the BBC and government are that they want a broadband tax which will be collected by phone companies. Of course if you opt out legally now that will not be an option they want to close that loophole. This would be great for the beeb as easy to collect (not their problem).

The other wheeze that the BBC is pushing is to make it a proper tax rather than a licence. The richer you are the more you pay.

No one is looking at scrapping the licence all together and letting the BBC fund it self. That is not on the table.

Yep democracy is mostly myth.

You will take government approved propaganda and you will be happy....or we will put you on a list.
 
The BBC is the self proclaimed national broadcaster but their Reithian idealism has long since disappeared.
Let them take advertising.
Untrue.

The BBC have proclaimed nothing. They are bound by their Charter which was proclaimed by the Monarch. Our Monarch! The head of state.

That you, or anyone else, doesn’t like what they do cannot alter that. Nor can they.
 
Untrue.

The BBC have proclaimed nothing. They are bound by their Charter which was proclaimed by the Monarch. Our Monarch! The head of state.

That you, or anyone else, doesn’t like what they do cannot alter that. Nor can they.
It's true because no one else ever says it (with one exception).
A charter from 100 years ago when the BBC had a monopoly? Great. Let's live with that forever.
 
Yep democracy is mostly myth.

You will take government approved propaganda and you will be happy....or we will put you on a list.
What complete bs this is.

We decide who governs us. That you disapprove is irrelevant. Someone always will. Convince a majority to be “social conservatives”, right wing nutjobs or even fascists and they will be in power.

That such a majority doesn’t exist, either because of apathy or that they actively disagree, doesn’t change the fact that it could. If anyone decides that their views are more important than others then they deserve to be on a list.
 
It's true because no one else ever says it (with one exception).
A charter from 100 years ago when the BBC had a monopoly? Great. Let's live with that forever.
Untrue again.

Most people understand it. Just not most people here.


If a government wants to write a new charter they can. You need to first get a government elected who will do that. Good luck in doing so if they openly declare such an intention.

Until then the BBC are bound by the current one and we all, us both included, must live with it.
 
Untrue again.

Most people understand it. Just not most people here.


If a government wants to write a new charter they can. You need to first get a government elected who will do that. Good luck in doing so if they openly declare such an intention.

Until then the BBC are bound by the current one and we all, us both included, must live with it.
Wow! One place more popular than Nutella? Pretty compelling evidence.
As usual change is good unless it's a change with which you disagree.
 
Untrue again.

Most people understand it. Just not most people here.


If a government wants to write a new charter they can. You need to first get a government elected who will do that. Good luck in doing so if they openly declare such an intention.

Until then the BBC are bound by the current one and we all, us both included, must live with it.

Like this.

 

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