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Christian Palace

Hrolf The Ganger said:
I'm not having a dig at anyone. I am stating an honest opinion.
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"Is it any wonder then that religion has so may followers? A lot of humans aren't very bright."

Ergo, anyone who is religious is not very bright.

So the thickies we have in our squad include Eze, Lacroix and Munoz.

How good could Eze be if he was bright?

Amazing he could learn to play chess never mind win competitions being not very bright by your measure.
 
HKOwen said:
"Is it any wonder then that religion has so may followers? A lot of humans aren't very bright."

Ergo, anyone who is religious is not very bright.

So the thickies we have in our squad include Eze, Lacroix and Munoz.

How good could Eze be if he was bright?

Amazing he could learn to play chess never mind win competitions being not very bright by your measure.
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Hrolf The Ganger said:
If this is all you can offer for evidence of God, then I was right when I said that I was wasting my time.

And when some bad things happen to these people, will they blame God?

Good and bad things happen to people all the time. It's called life.

Arrogance? 'Your God'?

Like I said before. If you were talking like this about anything else, men in white coats would be visiting.

Life is amazing. It is a privilege to exist even for such a brief time. Why do you need more?
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No, sorry but my examples stated above are not simple 'good things'. Finding a carpark when you need it. Getting a job promotion. Those are good things. The examples stated above are miracles. They don't just happen. Science cannot explain them. Seeing as you know everything, please explain to me how these occured? How does an ear just pop open after being closed since birth. How does cancer just disappear from a body overnight. Tell me.

I don't 'need' more. You're right life is amazing. The argument here isn't whether God/faith is good or bad...it's whether he simply is.
 
Pikester said:
I think a lot of people's issues with stories like this is the millions of people who have died awful, painful deaths with loads of people praying for them.
A god who chooses to heal your friend's ear but would let a baby die in agony is not a being I've got much time for, I'm afraid.
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I agree. And I wrestle with this daily. I don't have the answers...but certainly have a few stern questions.
 
HKOwen said:
"Is it any wonder then that religion has so may followers? A lot of humans aren't very bright."

Ergo, anyone who is religious is not very bright.

So the thickies we have in our squad include Eze, Lacroix and Munoz.

How good could Eze be if he was bright?

Amazing he could learn to play chess never mind win competitions being not very bright by your measure.
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I don't think you have to be entirely stupid to blindly believe in God, but it helps.

Intelligence is not the same as wisdom.
 
sprites said:
No, sorry but my examples stated above are not simple 'good things'. Finding a carpark when you need it. Getting a job promotion. Those are good things. The examples stated above are miracles. They don't just happen. Science cannot explain them. Seeing as you know everything, please explain to me how these occured? How does an ear just pop open after being closed since birth. How does cancer just disappear from a body overnight. Tell me.

I don't 'need' more. You're right life is amazing. The argument here isn't whether God/faith is good or bad...it's whether he simply is.
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That is just delusional.

Unexpected things happen.
When they are good, the religious credit God. When they are bad, we get some hooey about God acting in mysterious ways or some such mumbo jumbo.

The idea that some supreme being is hanging about somewhere (everywhere) eternally, just so he can fix a human on Earth which is among an infinitesimal number of planets in the universe is egotistical lunacy.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
No, because I only have someone else's word for it. I haven't tried to make a pizza with moon rock.

This is another example, like Dawkins' spaghetti monster. A lack of disproof is not proof and vice versa.

Of course, most of us trust NASA to tell us about The Moon, but some don't.
Some think the Moon landings were fake. Some think the Earth is flat. Some think that space itself does not exist. They are bonkers in varying degrees, but because an old book written by people ignorant of science tell us that there is an omnipotent god, that gets a free pass?

Even with reasonable proof, people still don't believe in science because they would rather believe in nonsense. Is it any wonder then that religion has so may followers? A lot of humans aren't very bright.
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I have faith that the moon is not made of cheese.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
That is just delusional.

Unexpected things happen.
When they are good, the religious credit God. When they are bad, we get some hooey about God acting in mysterious ways or some such mumbo jumbo.

The idea that some supreme being is hanging about somewhere (everywhere) eternally, just so he can fix a human on Earth which is among an infinitesimal number of planets in the universe is egotistical lunacy.
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You know that repeating the same thing over and over again doesn’t suddenly make it sensical or true, hey? Unexpected things don’t just happen. They just don’t. You still haven’t told me how these things happen then, if not for miraculous intervention. In the not so wise words of someone, I’ll wait.
 
Seagles said:
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates (religion unknown)
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Very nice, but that doesn't make a Biblical God any more likely.
 
sprites said:
You know that repeating the same thing over and over again doesn’t suddenly make it sensical or true, hey? Unexpected things don’t just happen. They just don’t. You still haven’t told me how these things happen then, if not for miraculous intervention. In the not so wise words of someone, I’ll wait.
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You clearly think it does.
The whole basis of religion is to keep repeating the same irrational nonsense until some believe it.

People recover from so called terminal illnesses. It happens, perhaps because they got the wrong diagnosis in many cases.
It is typical of the religious mind to single out specific examples and claim it as 'evidence'.
They also keep the bones of saints, think they see statues cry and do all kinds of other bizarre stuff.

It's a delusion, plain and simple. Sadly, history has shown that it is often a dangerous delusion.
 
Seagles said:
I was merely suggesting that those posting as if they know everything, may be lacking the wisdom you mentioned.
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No one know everything. That's obvious.
 
Seagles said:
Then maybe you will join me in ruling out that the moon is made of cheese 🙂
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It certainly is very unlikely, and already proven to be untrue (as long as you trust NASA).
 
sprites said:
You know that repeating the same thing over and over again doesn’t suddenly make it sensical or true, hey? Unexpected things don’t just happen. They just don’t. You still haven’t told me how these things happen then, if not for miraculous intervention. In the not so wise words of someone, I’ll wait.
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Don't listen to Hrolf. He has stated already that he is arguing for the sake of it. He's admitted he doesn't know everything. And even though he can rule out some things, he can't rule out the possibility of a divine entity. That's probably as good as you're going to get!

This is Palace talk so lets get back to that if we can!
 
Seagles said:
Don't listen to Hrolf. He has stated already that he is arguing for the sake of it. He's admitted he doesn't know everything. And even though he can rule out some things, he can't rule out the possibility of a divine entity. That's probably as good as you're going to get!

This is Palace talk so lets get back to that if we can!
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Are you a moderator?
 
Seagles said:
Don't listen to Hrolf. He has stated already that he is arguing for the sake of it. He's admitted he doesn't know everything. And even though he can rule out some things, he can't rule out the possibility of a divine entity. That's probably as good as you're going to get!

This is Palace talk so lets get back to that if we can!
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Yes I can.
Divinity is a human concept. This is at the heart of the matter.

Divinity, deities, worship, prayer, dogma. These are all human inventions. They bear no relation to the reality of the universe, whatever that might be.

Get a grip.
 
Forget Faith of a God, dose anyone believe that laughable Comic, The Bible, even the Pontiff doesn't follow it.
 
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