• Existing user of old message board?

    Your username will have transferred over to this new message board, but your password will need to be reset. Visit our convert your account page, to transfer your old password over.

US Politics

beak said:
Buying a single stock is gambling not investing.I've studied this for over fifty years and made a very big pile. So good I married my bank manager.
Click to expand...
That's great, but you don't "have" to do anything when you're investing.

There are low-risk approaches, high-risk approaches and everything in between - everyone's appetite for risk is different.

As I said, a single stock Tesla investor has outperformed any diverse portfolio over the last few years, gambling or not.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
That's great, but you don't "have" to do anything when you're investing.

There are low-risk approaches, high-risk approaches and everything in between - everyone's appetite for risk is different.

As I said, a single stock Tesla investor has outperformed any diverse portfolio over the last few years, gambling or not.
Click to expand...
So did you take your own advice and buy and sell at the correct times?
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Well a company's success isn't solely determined by recruitment - that's one facet of many. Many companies are successful.... they can't all have 'the best minds'.
Click to expand...

Go on....because I have to be honest I'm not seeing what you mean. The way I see it it's the people dude....In a market open to competition a company is its people and if merit isn't the bar you're using then any advantage is fleeting.

CPFCSaturn said:
Well yes, the ideological, but they still count.
Click to expand...

It's cancelled out by its opposite....as in people will specifically be attracted to Musk's anti woke and DEI stuff anyway. These other brands bought into all that and that would have significantly affected them....full of HR activists and assorted tarts of various demeanours.

Besides the vast majority aren't ideological anyway as I said. When we look at the percentage of those obsessed with politics, it's probably around or below ten percent.
 
Last edited:
CPFCSaturn said:
That's great, but you don't "have" to do anything when you're investing.

There are low-risk approaches, high-risk approaches and everything in between - everyone's appetite for risk is different.

As I said, a single stock Tesla investor has outperformed any diverse portfolio over the last few years, gambling or not. Well,surely contact your broker place the buy look after the contract note decide how to receive the dividends (if any) ( Is it cash,scrip or drip) and then sell at a propitious moment not much to do but some things are necessary.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Go on....because I have to be honest I'm not seeing what you mean. The way I see it it's the people dude....In a market open to competition a company is its people and if merit isn't the bar you're using then any advantage is fleeting.



It's cancelled out by its opposite....as in people will specifically be attracted to Musk's anti woke and DEI stuff anyway. These other brands bought into all that and that would have significantly affected them....full of activists and assorted tarts of various demeanours.

Besides the vast majority aren't ideological anyway as I said. When we look at the percentage of activists obsessed with politics like us, it's probably around or below ten percent.
Click to expand...
Surely you're not suggesting that people are the single and only determinant in a company's performance..? Because the only point I'm making is that I don't think that's the case - access to capital, tech innovation, location, timing, external market forces etc. etc.

Tesla will no doubt have some exceptionally talented people, but so will Apple, so will Meta, so will Google and so will a load of start ups that we have never heard of.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Surely you're not suggesting that people are the single and only determinant in a company's performance..? Because the only point I'm making is that I don't think that's the case - access to capital, tech innovation, location, timing, external market forces etc. etc.
Click to expand...

Oh come on,....ok, if it makes you feel better - all things being equal....it's the people.

CPFCSaturn said:
Tesla will no doubt have some exceptionally talented people, but so will Apple, so will Meta, so will Google and so will a load of start ups that we have never heard of.
Click to expand...

I have kind of covered that point and where Tesla has benefited and in my view that's proven in how they have done. But sure, the talent pool is distributed and no one claims otherwise.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
So have I, but there has never been an administration like this before. Not even close. Even Nixon was a paragon of integrity and morality by comparison. What is happening will change the world order. It's a once-in-a-lifetime shift of global realignments.

The UK has a big decision to make. To either pander to Trump and cling to the USA's coattails or place itself firmly in Europe. If it tries to do both, it is likely to slip down the middle.
Click to expand...
Outside media coverage and general global hysteria nothing has really changed over here. To be fair it was no different under Biden either.

Just back from Florida and the sugar white sands and quite frankly if you didn’t turn on the news channels or look at Facebook life would be just great.

I always felt European (fueled by Ryder cup passion) when living in UK so was not in favor of brexit. I’m not an expert like you but closer alignment with Europe sounds a good starting point.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
You don't have to do anything - an investor who invested solely in Tesla 3 years ago is doing far better than any fund has across the same period.

Of course a diverse portfolio means lower risk, but as per the above example, higher risk can also mean higher reward.

I have sold my Tesla shares for now, but will likely buy back in later this year.
Click to expand...
I bought into Tesla in 2017. After the election I absolutely knew in my gut i should sell the lot because they wouldn't get higher than that 450+ they'd risen to, because I buy and keep and I'm not a trader. Yup, they are half that now, hindsight and stocks.......
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
That’s because he had been there for a long time and wasn’t affecting world trade. People didn’t see his faults thrust in their faces several times a day.
Click to expand...
And in a pre-internet age there was no way for people to advertise their saintliness to approving strangers.
The 2008 banking crash started in America but that didn't deter visitors who could still afford to go.
 
Think I'll plan a holiday to the US for next year. Might get some world cup matches in aswell and pick up some Space X merchandise.

Might also get Starlink in the house to match my new Tesla 😆
 
Houston Eagle said:
Outside media coverage and general global hysteria nothing has really changed over here. To be fair it was no different under Biden either.

Just back from Florida and the sugar white sands and quite frankly if you didn’t turn on the news channels or look at Facebook life would be just great.

I always felt European (fueled by Ryder cup passion) when living in UK so was not in favor of brexit. I’m not an expert like you but closer alignment with Europe sounds a good starting point.
Click to expand...
I am glad to hear it and it’s very much the path we are on. A closer alignment militarily looks certain as does a youth exchange scheme. Meanwhile a pragmatic response to Trump looks probable as we hold our nose, lick his ar*e and bide our time.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And in a pre-internet age there was no way for people to advertise their saintliness to approving strangers.
The 2008 banking crash started in America but that didn't deter visitors who could still afford to go.
Click to expand...
The internet has produced enormous benefits for us but also done huge harm. I am unsure which is stronger but we survived without the benefits but may not the harm.
 
Spindle said:
I bought into Tesla in 2017. After the election I absolutely knew in my gut i should sell the lot because they wouldn't get higher than that 450+ they'd risen to, because I buy and keep and I'm not a trader. Yup, they are half that now, hindsight and stocks.......
Click to expand...

Hey more power to you.

You were correct up to now....and probably for a while, and that's all the market cares about.

I'm still waiting for my investment into Betamax to come good.....anyday now.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
That’s interesting, thanks. It’s obviously concerning and no doubt will be taken seriously by the government. Is it part of a world wide trend?

The reasons though are different to what is happening to the USA. Starmer might be unpopular in right wing web forums but he isn’t causing chaos in global markets by imposing ill thought out tariffs and general bully boy tactics.
Click to expand...
Bad planning by other countries then and assumptions the USA gravy train would keep on chugging I guess !
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Yes, it had a good day yesterday, as did most of the market - there are no real conclusions to be drawn from that.

Pretty much every share price in the world is up over the last 5 years. Tesla have been phenomenally successful for most of that time, but the last 6 months or so are much less rosy - much of the context for that is discussed above, but it seems you don't really want to engage with any detail around it.
Click to expand...
But when it dropped in a day a conclusion was made. Like I said. Standards and the left !
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Holmesdale Online Shop

Back
Top