Crystal Palace vs. Brighton match thread

[Badger11]

Great performance by the lads but costly as we lose Marc and Eddie.

Marc's sending off very much out of character his second was a really poor challenge he was nowhere near the ball so he has to take that on the chin. If that had been Hughes i would have been fuming as it was reckless and could have cost us the game. However it is so unlike Marc who is normally so calm I will forgive him for that.

As for Eddie I think he was really unlucky, the first was never a dive as for the second he didn't realise the player was there he is looking forward at the ball. That said he had to be booked as it was a dangerous tackle, just bad luck.

Our next few games are really tough we may not pick up many points.

 

[PatrickA]

Just caught the highlights.

Great goal from Mateta, we look so good on the break.

Some marginal decisions in a very closely fought game, but I don’t think we can really complain for either sending off. Nketiah was looking for a penalty and he didn’t get caught, shame as he probably could have played on. High boot for the second, standard yellow. Guehi perhaps a little unlucky for the first as it was a 50-50 and he touched the ball but the Brighton player got there first and probably Guehi got the player marginally before the ball, similarly his second he was late and high with his studs showing. Brighton’s too, well earned by Kamada when down to 9.

Some heroic defending at the end and Henderson has had probably the best season for a Palace keeper since Martyn in 1991. Great derby, great atmosphere, team spirit and result. COYP

I agree on the observation on Nketiah.
He was favourite for the loose ball and in my view could have taken the ball past the player.
Instead he elected to try and initiate contact against the defender's outstretched leg and then go down.

This seems to be a common trend with strikers and it makes me wonder if it's almost coached into them.
Perhaps some beancounter has looked at the stats and has worked out you're more likely to win a penalty than score from that situation so that has become the prevailing wisdom.
In any event it's not a good trend.
Vardy seems one of the last of the old school who seems determined to try and finish when in that position.

 

[Xong Kudu]

Yep. After just watching MOTD I can see why he gave a yellow for the dive. There was some contact but what screwed Nketiah was the way he half swallow-dived with his right leg splayed plus the dramatics were a split sec too late. Having said that, they don’t usually get given so we were unlucky in that respect. The other yellows for the sending offs were all reasonable.

Ps. If he had just normally gone to ground at the right time, it may have been referred by VAR due to the slight contact. 50-50 still though. Can’t grumble.

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

Where's Willo, prediction not up to scratch?

He goes quiet 🤫 when we win, so he hasn’t been about much!

 

[Casual]

Apart from 20 minutes at the end of the first half, that was the best home atmosphere in the last few years.
One game worth the season ticket money alone. Great day.

 

[Spindle]

For me that was the issue with Taylor - the way he let them get away with several clear fouls and then pulling us up for the slightest of touches.

Having seen the highlights I have to accept that Guehi can have no complaints about either of his yellows. Nketiah, though, shouldn't have been booked for a dive. Even those MOTD "pundits" felt he was very unlucky because he was clearly caught by the defender.

The second Lacroix incident was shocking. no attempt to play the ball just a determination to poleaxe our player.

It was Pedro. What do you expect. I see nothing but nasty violence and cheating from him every week, he seems to have a licence for it from PGMOL

 

[Spindle]

Just caught the highlights.

Great goal from Mateta, we look so good on the break.

Some marginal decisions in a very closely fought game, but I don’t think we can really complain for either sending off. Nketiah was looking for a penalty and he didn’t get caught, shame as he probably could have played on. High boot for the second, standard yellow. Guehi perhaps a little unlucky for the first as it was a 50-50 and he touched the ball but the Brighton player got there first and probably Guehi got the player marginally before the ball, similarly his second he was late and high with his studs showing. Brighton’s too, well earned by Kamada when down to 9.

Some heroic defending at the end and Henderson has had probably the best season for a Palace keeper since Martyn in 1991. Great derby, great atmosphere, team spirit and result. COYP

Both Guehi and Nketiah shouldn't have received yellows first. Guehi was a 50/50 coming together and Van Heckle did his WWE slap the floor the pain is so bad actually like he did with Nketiah for the kick. Le Croix and JP showed us what happens with actual injuries. Nketiah was clipped and he did not appeal for a penalty therefore no rule breach.

Brighton are the biggest play actors in the league and these refs are buying it.

 

[Spindle]

Yep. After just watching MOTD I can see why he gave a yellow for the dive. There was some contact but what screwed Nketiah was the way he half swallow-dived with his right leg splayed plus the dramatics were a split sec too late. Having said that, they don’t usually get given so we were unlucky in that respect. The other yellows for the sending offs were all reasonable.

Ps. If he had just normally gone to ground at the right time, it may have been referred by VAR due to the slight contact. 50-50 still though. Can’t grumble.

Bollocks.

Name a player booked for diving this year. Show us penalties not given for the same thing.

Ever seen Jotas one where he takes a micro touch, runs 3 paces, falls over. GIVEN.

 

[Talvlad]

I think someone needs to coach our players about how to win a penalty when we get fouled in the box. There's basically two things a player needs to do:
1) Make sure the ref knows there's been a foul and
2) Make sure the ref can't just let it go and play advantage

and it's the second bit we keep getting wrong.

Nketiah clearly gets clipped on his left leg, which he then manages to plant to continue his run albeit off balance. But then he needs to continue his run, stumble and not get the ball under control / shoot. Instead he just trailed his right leg and lets himself fall, which gives the ref an excuse not to give the pen.

Eze has also been fouled in the box several times this season with no penalty given, usually because he's just hit the turf (not doing step 2 above properly) and the Ref just thinks in the split second, well there may have been contact, but not enough to knock him over like that, so I'm not going to give it.

As an aside a quick minute or two of research as to how many pens we've had this season (we've scored 2, so I guess we've had 2 pens), I came across this VAR analysis which was quite interesting

How VAR decisions have affected every Premier League club in 2024-25

We're collating a league table of overturned VAR decisions in 2024-25. Who will benefit most over the course of the Premier League season?

www.espn.co.uk

 

[Booted Eagle]

Silly second challenge from Nketiah, even if the first wasn't merited. Guehi might of got a straight red for the second challenge as well. Luckily he will only now be out for 1 game and not 3. Let's hope we can keep cool heads in the rest of the season. Think we have broken a PL record for ourselves, scoring in consecutive games. Playing some great attacking football at the moment. COYP

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

VAR should have advised that there was contact, Taylor was too quick to give a yellow in this instance.

 

[eaglesdare]

Anyone else not a fan of the new sound system? Too loud and booming. Had to cover my ear at one point.

Or am I just getting old?

 

[Gary St.Andrews]

You think how many times Liverpool have been given dubious penalties especially against us with even less contact or no contact at all!

 

[JHB]

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the first bookings Nketiah and Guehi received, their second ones were nailed on and completely unnecessary. On another day Guehi could have had a straight red. If he’d been given a straight red VAR wouldn’t have overturned it. Nketiah went in with a high foot for a ball he wasn’t going to win. Not especially smart.

We got the rub of the green against Fulham when Wharton was very lucky not to get sent off. Don’t think we have too many complaints about yesterday’s sendings off

 

[NEILLO]

Great character shown by our players to get the three points.

And when the winning goal is scored by your favorite player against a club you despise, it doesn't get much better than that !

Then we come to Anthony Taylor. Content to let the game flow early on and then decides to reverse that approach and become pedantic. It's that inconsistency that frustrates players and supporters alike. I won't bother going over his decisions, others have already done that.

So we've had the supposedly two best referees at Selhurst Park in recent weeks, Taylor and Michael Oliver. Both were incredibly poor. Taylor should be demoted / inflicted upon a lower division.

 

[Palace Old Geezer]

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the first bookings Nketiah and Guehi received, their second ones were nailed on and completely unnecessary. On another day Guehi could have had a straight red. If he’d been given a straight red VAR wouldn’t have overturned it. Nketiah went in with a high foot for a ball he wasn’t going to win. Not especially smart.

We got the rub of the green against Fulham when Wharton was very lucky not to get sent off. Don’t think we have too many complaints about yesterday’s sendings off

You're right, but mainly because we ended up with all 3 points. There would be complaints aplenty on here if Brighton had equalised, or even won it in added time.

 

[eaglesdare]

If you can get past all the pop ups on the north stand chat this morning it makes for good reading 😃

 

[JHB]

You're right, but mainly because we ended up with all 3 points. There would be complaints aplenty on here if Brighton had equalised, or even won it in added time.

A win does make us all feel more sanguine about decisions! Just adds to the epic nature of the win and rubs salt in the wound for the weed so all is well.

 

[Eagleman13]

Hold everything, we were all watching a different game . . .

 

[rikz]

My take on Nketiah, he just done what every striker does weekly, felt contact and tried to win the penalty, was it a penalty, no, was it a dive, technically, no.

I've not got a problem with players getting booked for simulation under them circumstances, the problem Is, it will no way be consistent, next week someone will get a penalty because they felt contact and went down.

Just let var review yellow cards for simulation. Is it a penalty, no, was there contact, yes, no booking.