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Marc Guehi

Agree. As much as I love MG, he's not going to be as hard to replace as some.

As someone else mentioned we'd ideally make those signings before selling to keep the prices reasonable

Absolutely!

In real terms you could’ve bought Huijsen, Murillo and Lacroix for a combined total of £38M and still have £32M left over for El Hadji Diouf and Rayan Cherki.
 
where do Sky get their supposed football 'experts' from - clueless.

4 of them discussing the MG bid, and one says he's a great player but it's a lot of money. Is he a primary defender in a back 4. Another pipes up that he's good in a back 3 but we are yet to see him excel in a back 4!!!

Well he and Andersen were probably the best CB pairing outside the top 4 for 2.5 years and he has excelled for England in a back 4.

Yes, he is slightly small for a CB but to assume he can't play in a flat back 4 is ridiculous.
A lot of these experts don’t watch enough games outside the big teams.
 
If it was £70m in some realistic fashion difficult to turn down. I think the player was less keen on Spurs than Newcastle though.Reports say Liverpool might be interested. Clearly that’s more appealing to him.
Won’t be £70m at end of season though. All a dilemma.
 
If it was £70m in some realistic fashion difficult to turn down. I think the player was less keen on Spurs than Newcastle though.Reports say Liverpool might be interested. Clearly that’s more appealing to him.
Won’t be £70m at end of season though. All a dilemma.
You cannot be sure of that. There may be more suitors then
No-one offered 70m last summer and all the experts said his price would only go down. But that does not seem to be the case if this report is true
 
Genuinely hope you’re right. My guess is a staged £50m to £55m.
Maybe that's true, (maybe its not) but if you "factor in" that with him staying, continued presence in the PL for at least another season is much easier to achieve (given our current position) if he then goes in the summer window we have more time to effect a structured replacement plan.
 
Maybe that's true, (maybe its not) but if you "factor in" that with him staying, continued presence in the PL for at least another season is much easier to achieve (given our current position) if he then goes in the summer window we have more time to effect a structured replacement plan.
I thought Glasner was quoted as telling Parish not to sell at £70m (Newcastle bid) as he will get 50m in the summer and the 20m loss was worth it to stay up?
 
If it was £70m in some realistic fashion difficult to turn down. I think the player was less keen on Spurs than Newcastle though.Reports say Liverpool might be interested. Clearly that’s more appealing to him.
Won’t be £70m at end of season though. All a dilemma.
I'm in the camp that believe Levy made a £70m bid confident that we would reject so he can tell his fans he tried to get a top class CB in but failed. It would have been interesting to see what Levy would have done if Parish had said "ok, you can have him at that price".
 
I'm in the camp that believe Levy made a £70m bid confident that we would reject so he can tell his fans he tried to get a top class CB in but failed. It would have been interesting to see what Levy would have done if Parish had said "ok, you can have him at that price".
Agree, never felt real.

Especially as De Ven is now fit and Romero is back in training.
 
You cannot be sure of that. There may be more suitors then
No-one offered 70m last summer and all the experts said his price would only go down. But that does not seem to be the case if this report is true
with 12 months left of his contract i think we will do well to get more than £40m for him. I'd be amazed if anyone was prepared to pay £50m. Once you are in the last 12 months of a contract your value nosedives very quickly.
 
In recent days there's been increased speculation that Harwood Bellis is the guy Palace has identified to replace Guehi, on the strong assumption that Guehi departs in the summer.
Personally I hope that the speculation is unfounded.
Guehi loves to defend, is very solid and incredibly consistent.
We'll miss him when he departs, and I'm not comforted just on the basis of the brief spell at the end of the season when we excelled without him.
I look over the longer term and Guehi's consistent performances.

With regard to Harwood Bellis from what I've observed he doesn't share Guehi's desire to defend his goal, he often has a mistake in him and he doesn't dominate opposing forwards.
Somehow he managed to make the England squad though so perhaps I'm missing something.
 
In recent days there's been increased speculation that Harwood Bellis is the guy Palace has identified to replace Guehi, on the strong assumption that Guehi departs in the summer.
Personally I hope that the speculation is unfounded.
Guehi loves to defend, is very solid and incredibly consistent.
We'll miss him when he departs, and I'm not comforted just on the basis of the brief spell at the end of the season when we excelled without him.
I look over the longer term and Guehi's consistent performances.

With regard to Harwood Bellis from what I've observed he doesn't share Guehi's desire to defend his goal, he often has a mistake in him and he doesn't dominate opposing forwards.
Somehow he managed to make the England squad though so perhaps I'm missing something.
Harwood-Bellis can also be deployed at right-back.
He is comfortable on the ball, comfortable when put under pressure and can advance out of defence with the ball.
He cost Southampton £20 Mill - they were obligated to purchase the player for this amount if they got promoted.
He is engaged to Roy Keane's daughter.
 
Harwood-Bellis can also be deployed at right-back.
He is comfortable on the ball, comfortable when put under pressure and can advance out of defence with the ball.
He cost Southampton £20 Mill - they were obligated to purchase the player for this amount if they got promoted.
He is engaged to Roy Keane's daughter.
Engaged to Roy Keane daughter ?

I think we should add bravery to his list of attributes
 
It concerns me buying any defender from a team so utterly inept at defending.
Why? That's an attraction. Fewer suitors. Lower price.

But once he gets in a team with more confidence, better coaching and he has Richards and Lacroix as well as Munoz and Mitchell as back up...

He is a risk, of course; but he would not be the first player taken from an abysmal side who then excels in a better environment.
 
with 12 months left of his contract i think we will do well to get more than £40m for him. I'd be amazed if anyone was prepared to pay £50m. Once you are in the last 12 months of a contract your value nosedives very quickly.
It depends how many teams want him. If, for example, spurs, Liverpool and Newcastle all want him then a bidding war will start and then that basket case club from west London will also have a chance to match the highest offer too!!
 
Why? That's an attraction. Fewer suitors. Lower price.

But once he gets in a team with more confidence, better coaching and he has Richards and Lacroix as well as Munoz and Mitchell as back up...

He is a risk, of course; but he would not be the first player taken from an abysmal side who then excels in a better environment.
OG has demonstrated that he can improve players by coaching. If he believes there is a player there fine by me, in Ollie we trust.
 
with 12 months left of his contract i think we will do well to get more than £40m for him. I'd be amazed if anyone was prepared to pay £50m. Once you are in the last 12 months of a contract your value nosedives very quickly.

Normally yes, but not always the case. Ideally we need a few clubs in for him.

Might have imagined it, but wasn't Declan Rice in the last 12 months of his contract?
 
I think Willo is correct about the about Harwood Ellis being comfortable on the ball, but for me the absolute prerequisite for a centre back is the desire to defend, to block, to compete , to have the absolute determination not to concede.
From my observation of Harwood Ellis, he lacks this .
Let West Ham have him.
 

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