The Politics of 'Climate-change'

[Wisbech Eagle]

Once again 2 + 2 = ?
What I mean is the zeal with which non believers are pursued. Look at how you're reacting to your faith not being followed. Call everybody idiots and selfish and everything else. See how far that gets you.

There’s not an ounce of faith involved when dealing with facts.

Calling out those who seek to argue with facts might be uncomfortable and get pushback but doesn’t stop those pesky facts being facts.

Continually demonstrating the existence of those facts and pointing out the consequences of ignoring them will be a never ending task. Over the last 30 years more and more people have come to accept that man made climate change is factual. In the last couple of years the political need to avoid dealing with it has impacted progress and encouraged those whose businesses might suffer to plant doubts. It must change again.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

There’s not an ounce of faith involved when dealing with facts.

Calling out those who seek to argue with facts might be uncomfortable and get pushback but doesn’t stop those pesky facts being facts.

Continually demonstrating the existence of those facts and pointing out the consequences of ignoring them will be a never ending task. Over the last 30 years more and more people have come to accept that man made climate change is factual. In the last couple of years the political need to avoid dealing with it has impacted progress and encouraged those whose businesses might suffer to plant doubts. It must change again.

Still not the point. I'm talking about the moral superiority on display.

 

[HKOwen]

Still not the point. I'm talking about the moral superiority on display.

and the ability he has to see into the future, he seems to be all of a rush to get to a failed economy

 

[grumpymort]

Ridiculous analogy!

Climate change doesn’t depend on an unprovable belief in something.

It’s a verifiable fact. Denier = Idiot.

Still waiting for you to provide this FACT science you keep claiming.

 

[grumpymort]

What science were you involved in? There are many categories. Not all is genuine research.

Were you responsible for obtaining funding?

Some commissioned by vested interests may well generate some weird investigations.

Climate science isn’t like that. It’s real.

I haven’t studied the contribution of farm animals but they must make one. How big I defer to the experts.

I am neither vegetarian nor vegan and think both are daft.

You cynicism about Covid destroys any credibility you might have on other subjects. It is simply untrue.

You know full well what science research i was involved in this is not the first time I have been here and I was very clear during the scamdemic what I was involved in and background.

Yes I was responsible for gathering funding & yes I was a peer reviewer multi times as well all this had been mentioned about before for years on here.

All discipline of science are like that why are you even trying to speak on this subject you don't have any experience or clue about.

Real science as you put it is not epidemiology models and valid scientist knows this a proper experiment is required do we have one nope it's opinions based of models that is not valid science.

I am not claiming climate change does not happen it is very real the argument is all the claims that science shows it's "caused" by man which is untrue.

Cynicism about covid yet years later I was correct maybe you need to go back and read it.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You know full well what science research i was involved in this is not the first time I have been here and I was very clear during the scamdemic what I was involved in and background.

Yes I was responsible for gathering funding & yes I was a peer reviewer multi times as well all this had been mentioned about before for years on here.

All discipline of science are like that why are you even trying to speak on this subject you don't have any experience or clue about.

Real science as you put it is not epidemiology models and valid scientist knows this a proper experiment is required do we have one nope it's opinions based of models that is not valid science.

I am not claiming climate change does not happen it is very real the argument is all the claims that science shows it's "caused" by man which is untrue.

Cynicism about covid yet years later I was correct maybe you need to go back and read it.

Well I cannot recall that, so kindly refresh my memory so its relevance to the climate change debate can be determined.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Still waiting for you to provide this FACT science you keep claiming.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

11 Interesting Climate Change Facts | Earth.Org

From atmospheric CO2 and ocean level rise to global warming and air pollution. Here are 11 interesting climate change facts that people are not aware of.

earth.org

Climate Change - The Facts

After one of the hottest years on record, Sir David Attenborough looks at the science of climate change and potential solutions to this global threat.

www.bbc.co.uk

They ought to be enough to convince the most biased sceptic but we’ll see.

 

[the silurian]

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

11 Interesting Climate Change Facts | Earth.Org

From atmospheric CO2 and ocean level rise to global warming and air pollution. Here are 11 interesting climate change facts that people are not aware of.

earth.org

Climate Change - The Facts

After one of the hottest years on record, Sir David Attenborough looks at the science of climate change and potential solutions to this global threat.

www.bbc.co.uk

They ought to be enough to convince the most biased sceptic but we’ll see.

Thank you Mr Milliband !!

 

[Spindle]

I have an EV and Solar Panels on my home.

 

[grumpymort]

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

11 Interesting Climate Change Facts | Earth.Org

From atmospheric CO2 and ocean level rise to global warming and air pollution. Here are 11 interesting climate change facts that people are not aware of.

earth.org

Climate Change - The Facts

After one of the hottest years on record, Sir David Attenborough looks at the science of climate change and potential solutions to this global threat.

www.bbc.co.uk

They ought to be enough to convince the most biased sceptic but we’ll see.

No evidence of humans being the cause.

Humans contributing yes but no evidence of by how much.

Still waiting for the science FACTS

You made these same errors when looking at data during covid it's in the wording used.

Systematic scientific assessments is not valid science if you had been trained or worked in any science discipline you would understand this.

IPCC — Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is the place you can read the reports and what is in the assessments it's as I said before made up numbers.

This is taken from there own report Climate change widespread, rapid, and intensifying – IPCC — IPCC

"The report shows that emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are responsible for approximately 1.1°C of warming since 1850-1900, and finds that averaged over the next 20 years, global temperature is expected to reach or exceed 1.5°C of warming. This assessment is based on improved observational datasets to assess historical warming, as well progress in scientific understanding of the response of the climate system to human-caused greenhouse gas emissions"

This tiny bit shows what a mess it is and not valid what so ever.

If it's science fact you have the evidence to show cause and effect.

 

[Spindle]

Proving it to you doesn't matter a jot mate. You're inconsequential.

 

[cryrst]

I have an EV and Solar Panels on my home.

Right, and ….

 

[Spindle]

Right, and ….

I was just seeing if I'd get lectured 😀

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I have an EV and Solar Panels on my home.

I have an electric toaster and a solar powered garden.

 

[cryrst]

I was just seeing if I'd get lectured 😀

Nah just brainwashed 🤔

 

[ASCPFC]

I have an EV and Solar Panels on my home.

You traded the Prius in?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

No evidence of humans being the cause.

Humans contributing yes but no evidence of by how much.

Still waiting for the science FACTS

You made these same errors when looking at data during covid it's in the wording used.

Systematic scientific assessments is not valid science if you had been trained or worked in any science discipline you would understand this.

IPCC — Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is the place you can read the reports and what is in the assessments it's as I said before made up numbers.

This is taken from there own report Climate change widespread, rapid, and intensifying – IPCC — IPCC

"The report shows that emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are responsible for approximately 1.1°C of warming since 1850-1900, and finds that averaged over the next 20 years, global temperature is expected to reach or exceed 1.5°C of warming. This assessment is based on improved observational datasets to assess historical warming, as well progress in scientific understanding of the response of the climate system to human-caused greenhouse gas emissions"

This tiny bit shows what a mess it is and not valid what so ever.

If it's science fact you have the evidence to show cause and effect.

I suspect you are beyond help! You are so determined that climate change is made up you refuse to believe it isn’t. Despite all the testimony from well respected and trusted scientists who have no motivation to lie.

Nor all science depends onlaboratory work. Much depends on observation and evaluation of data. That science is equally valid. When it results in statements like this:-

“Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."

I think the time for debate is over. The conclusion has been reached and those who only want to prevaricate must be ignored. Now is the time for action.

I am still waiting to learn what your field of science was. I am not a scientist but I employed many.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I have an EV and Solar Panels on my home.

I've heard better chat up lines.

 

[cryrst]

I suspect you are beyond help! You are so determined that climate change is made up you refuse to believe it isn’t. Despite all the testimony from well respected and trusted scientists who have no motivation to lie.

Nor all science depends onlaboratory work. Much depends on observation and evaluation of data. That science is equally valid. When it results in statements like this:-

“Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."

I think the time for debate is over. The conclusion has been reached and those who only want to prevaricate must be ignored. Now is the time for action.

I am still waiting to learn what your field of science was. I am not a scientist but I employed many.

He didn’t say we don’t contribute. You and your ilk put climate change fully at the feet of man. Again out of 0 and 100 what is man’s input. You know so much about it a number must be in your mind surely!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

He didn’t say we don’t contribute. You and your ilk put climate change fully at the feet of man. Again out of 0 and 100 what is man’s input. You know so much about it a number must be in your mind surely!

What he said was that there was no evidence of humans being the cause. Which is factually untrue. There is so much evidence that it is now beyond dispute. All of what is of concern lies at the feet on man. Natural climate change is so slow as to be ignored. It’s just a distraction being emphasised by those who have commercial or political reasons not to face up to reality. The only number you need to know is that man made climate change is 100% responsible for the problems we now face.

I don’t know so much about it, but there are so many who do know so much that to suggest they are all involved in a giant conspiracy is clearly nonsensical.