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Please expand.On the contrary, I again have a far better understanding of this than you ever will.
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Please expand.On the contrary, I again have a far better understanding of this than you ever will.
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See, a sensible point is possible.We don’t know. If any of us had to serve on a jury for a well k own person in a case of sexual or domestic abuse allegations I’m sure we would have a pre conception in some way. That’s why I support judge only trials in high profile cases as have worked in Ulster and Dublin for many years
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Milliband, corbyn and Owen jones did.And who would have thought the f*cking gulllble, terminally online right on here would fall for it hook, line and sinker?
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Good pointsThey are.
Andy Burnham was quick enough to come out and say that Brands crimes were ‘Horrific’ and yet where was his outrage and public condemnation of the convicted grooming gang rapists?
Jess Phillips in interviews on Sunday threw her full weight behind the condemnation of Brand and yet voted AGAINST having a National Enquiry for Grooming Gangs…and this is the former Safeguarding Minister!
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Do you even understand what "reasonable doubt" is, i doubt it, read Part time Jame's post, earlier in this thread, telling everyone about his jury experience when he was on a rape case, unless you have been on one, no, then go and get yourself educated on the subject before spouting your drivel.How do you know who to believe in a case of one persons word against another’s from 17 years ago with no actual ‘evidence’ either way?
How could that possibly be PROVEN beyond reasonable doubt?
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So, in order to question someone's guilt, you have to offer an alternative form of trial?You either support trial by jury or you do not.
If you do not, propose an alternative.
If you do, put up or shut up.
And stop chucking in non sequiturs about trans and mythical "elites". They do not advance your argument. They just make you look ridiculous at best and a victim-blaming apologist for rape at worst.
AHH, that explains everything, Freemason by any chance?Having been a career detective and involved with a number of cases of rape and serious indecent assault, on both men and women, I can confidently say I have a better understanding of consent than you.
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The CPS and a jury of 12 thought otherwise.
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Power down Lanzo. Your outrage has been registered.AHH, that explains everything, Freemason by any chance?
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You either support trial by jury or you do not.
If you do not, propose an alternative.
If you do, put up or shut up.
And stop chucking in non sequiturs about trans and mythical "elites". They do not advance your argument. They just make you look ridiculous at best and a victim-blaming apologist for rape at worst.
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Indeed. Complainants priming the media, and making their intentions publicly known, before any legal action should result in a mis-trial, or their claims being dismissed before it reaches court.You seem rattled by my valid questions? Do you not think a jury may have had prior connotations to brand before the trial? However could it have been fair if they had? How would we ever know? The same now for walliams. How would he get a fair trial after the documentary aired last night?
No sequiturs here just questions on how some people can pretend to be concerned about women and their rights if they can't even define what a woman is? Nor care about men entering women's safe spaces 🤷🏻♂️
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AHH, that explains everything, Freemason by any chance?
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Do you even understand what "reasonable doubt" is, i doubt it, read Part time Jame's post, earlier in this thread, telling everyone about his jury experience when he was on a rape case, unless you have been on one, no, then go and get yourself educated on the subject before spouting your drivel.
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The verdict on Brand was unanimous, yet numerous posters on here think they know better, and it was an incorrect verdict due to preconception's, how offensive to the jury members who went through the trial, how anyone on this site thinks they know better than the jury is beyond belief.
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I know very little about Legal interpretation. I've never done Jury Service.
My only comments are that I've accidentally gone into the "wrong un" on a couple of occasions when very drunk with different women. They told me very abruptly , and I almost immediately relocated to the front-private.
I would be horrified if either lady now sought to make a complaint, some decades later. But by the same token, another friend of mine had a "bad experience" with a previous boyfriend she wouldn't elaborate on. I told her she should have made a complaint to the police,.. .. but she knew the legal system and obviously didn't want herself interrogated in court over her sexual history, and the finer details of the incident in question.
I am ill-at-ease with such claims being made so long after the event. When any real physical evidence is long gone.
I notice Jonathon Ross has come out of hiding to publicly distance himself from Brand and Walliams. Apology a bit late for Andrew Sach's grand daughter and the way he very publicly ridiculed her and his awards ceremonies speeches, where he stated Walliams was going home with a 15 year old. Ross, you are tainted goods.
I think you are a great advert for anyone having "pre conceptions" about the Old Bill, down the lodge tonight?, don't forget your apron.Oh dear! Priceless 🤣🤣🤣
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The law is not there to judge people's promiscuity and when all these cases hinge on media investigations and one word against another, I'm concerned that you could probably find practically anyone guilty of something in their past.I would consider organised gang rape a different category to Brand's alleged misdemeanours.
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Just comment really. I know of an incident where a female worker was dating a male co-worker. They split up,....then she accused the man of rape. Before it went to trial, the police investigation revealed her to be lying, out of spite.
She suffered no consequences. They both still work at the same place, but in different departments and on different shifts.
Women lying, makes catching real rapists so much very more difficult.
And I mean contempt of Court lying.
NOT, being found "not guilty", due to inadequate evidence.