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Russell Brand
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silvertop
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See, a sensible point is possible.
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silvertop
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Do you even understand what "reasonable doubt" is, i doubt it, read Part time Jame's post, earlier in this thread, telling everyone about his jury experience when he was on a rape case, unless you have been on one, no, then go and get yourself educated on the subject before spouting your drivel.
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So, in order to question someone's guilt, you have to offer an alternative form of trial?
What a stupid suggestion.
AHH, that explains everything, Freemason by any chance?
Phil’s Barber
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I doubt they gave mine or your knowledge about the subject any thought whatsoever!
Hrolf The Ganger
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Power down Lanzo. Your outrage has been registered.
Forest Hillbilly
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I know very little about Legal interpretation. I've never done Jury Service.
My only comments are that I've accidentally gone into the "wrong un" on a couple of occasions when very drunk with different women. They told me very abruptly , and I almost immediately relocated to the front-private.
I would be horrified if either lady now sought to make a complaint, some decades later. But by the same token, another friend of mine had a "bad experience" with a previous boyfriend she wouldn't elaborate on. I told her she should have made a complaint to the police,.. .. but she knew the legal system and obviously didn't want herself interrogated in court over her sexual history, and the finer details of the incident in question.
I am ill-at-ease with such claims being made so long after the event. When any real physical evidence is long gone.
I notice Jonathon Ross has come out of hiding to publicly distance himself from Brand and Walliams. Apology a bit late for Andrew Sach's grand daughter and the way he very publicly ridiculed her and his awards ceremonies speeches, where he stated Walliams was going home with a 15 year old. Ross, you are tainted goods.
My only comments are that I've accidentally gone into the "wrong un" on a couple of occasions when very drunk with different women. They told me very abruptly , and I almost immediately relocated to the front-private.
I would be horrified if either lady now sought to make a complaint, some decades later. But by the same token, another friend of mine had a "bad experience" with a previous boyfriend she wouldn't elaborate on. I told her she should have made a complaint to the police,.. .. but she knew the legal system and obviously didn't want herself interrogated in court over her sexual history, and the finer details of the incident in question.
I am ill-at-ease with such claims being made so long after the event. When any real physical evidence is long gone.
I notice Jonathon Ross has come out of hiding to publicly distance himself from Brand and Walliams. Apology a bit late for Andrew Sach's grand daughter and the way he very publicly ridiculed her and his awards ceremonies speeches, where he stated Walliams was going home with a 15 year old. Ross, you are tainted goods.
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You seem rattled by my valid questions? Do you not think a jury may have had prior connotations to brand before the trial? However could it have been fair if they had? How would we ever know? The same now for walliams. How would he get a fair trial after the documentary aired last night?
No sequiturs here just questions on how some people can pretend to be concerned about women and their rights if they can't even define what a woman is? Nor care about men entering women's safe spaces 🤷🏻♂️
Forest Hillbilly
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Indeed. Complainants priming the media, and making their intentions publicly known, before any legal action should result in a mis-trial, or their claims being dismissed before it reaches court.
Phil’s Barber
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I wouldn’t say it explains everything but it certainly means that I’m experienced enough or ‘qualified’ (quite literally) to comment on certain topics on HoL with a bit more confidence and authority than others (topics that is).
Phil’s Barber
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Oh dear! Priceless 🤣🤣🤣
Stirlingsays
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Too right.
OJ Simpson was obviously innocent and all that blood evidence was planted.
Yeah, juries never get verdicts wrong. They hear all the evidence and must be right.
The sheer gall of it.
I mean don't question anything, it's one hundred percent clear cut and dried.
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I largely agree with the tone of your post.
I'm not however that interested in finger pointing at Ross or anyone who makes jokes.....These puritans and self appointed moral guardians want taboo topics that you should be scared to talk or joke about....just like the old right of the distant past.
I think that's the wrong path that leads nowhere desirable.....they are obsessed with moral superiority, which is mostly fake in my view and down to their inferiority complexes which they should work on instead.
There's an anti male, anti masculinity aspect to our current feminised society where anything on the fifty fifty or grey area is now treated as a hanging offence and literal rape.
Sorry, some people may regard me as a dinosaur or worse, but I regard the current cultural situation as ridiculous and outright harmful......I can see continued harm being done to dating....something that the 'believe all women' nonsense already has harmed......The younger generation are just not 'getting it on' and reproducing like a normal healthy society would.....and this cultural dysfunction, where feminised thinking rules, is part of the reason why.
We all know what real rape is, we know what real sexual assault is. Those terms have been hijacked definitionally to include grey areas.....which now don't exist. These people think they are morally superior but the truth of it is that they are doing masses of harm rather than good.
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I think you are a great advert for anyone having "pre conceptions" about the Old Bill, down the lodge tonight?, don't forget your apron.
Forest Hillbilly
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Just comment really. I know of an incident where a female worker was dating a male co-worker. They split up,....then she accused the man of rape. Before it went to trial, the police investigation revealed her to be lying, out of spite.
She suffered no consequences. They both still work at the same place, but in different departments and on different shifts.
Women lying, makes catching real rapists so much very more difficult.
And I mean contempt of Court lying.
NOT, being found "not guilty", due to inadequate evidence.
She suffered no consequences. They both still work at the same place, but in different departments and on different shifts.
Women lying, makes catching real rapists so much very more difficult.
And I mean contempt of Court lying.
NOT, being found "not guilty", due to inadequate evidence.
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The law is not there to judge people's promiscuity and when all these cases hinge on media investigations and one word against another, I'm concerned that you could probably find practically anyone guilty of something in their past.
Do you? But many of these cases also hinge on media investigations and one word against another.
The bold are your words.
As i stated earlier any historical sexual offence - rape, under age sex, grooming etc - has no physical evidence.
If multiple people claim they were raped by the same person surely it has to be investigated, regardless of whether the accused is famous, promiscuous or an Asian taxi driver.
This is not a left or right argument.
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Incentive structures work for both good and bad.
The balance is off, but the feminists and soy don't care.....until they personally fall foul of course.