Parish Out

[park the bus]

Steve Parish is 61. At this age the body goes through another phase of change, and so do priorities.
Is Steve Parish still the hungry go get 'em entrepreneur from the 2010 rescue or has he started to think about retirement? I 'm sure he would like to see his pet project, the upgrade of the stadium, completed in good time so he can step back and say "my work here is done". At some point he will hand over the reins.

 

[thai-eagle]

Steve P. looks good for his age. And please, just let him go on with his work - we will never get a better CEO.

 

[Casual]

Fair enough mate. I never realised that you saved the club. Hopefully they name a Bar in the new stand after you. 🙌

Also, it's a good thing we, including

Parish and Co., didn't think like you back in 2010 ain`t it.

 

[elgin eeagle]

I Steve P's balance sheet is overwhelmingly positive. OK sometimes he gets lucky, but to keep a club of our size in this hard division for 14 years is no mean feat. And to employ people all over the club to deliver trophies on top of that, you know, you have to give him a lot of credit for that. Granted that does sound like something he would say, but im not him.

He definitely has his work cut out this season though. For the Europa League under not inconsiderable financial constrains, Hobbs has delivered a big squad yes, but it is devoid of leaders and quality defenders. He might end up having to sack his new creative type manager like so many times before, and replace him with a Pulis/Allardyce/Hodgson/Dyche type to try and dig us out of the mire defensively to protect his employers investment.

 

[RedandBlueSash]

I Steve P's balance sheet is overwhelmingly positive. OK sometimes he gets lucky, but to keep a club of our size in this hard division for 14 years is no mean feat. And to employ people all over the club to deliver trophies on top of that, you know, you have to give him a lot of credit for that. Granted that does sound like something he would say, but im not him.

He definitely has his work cut out this season though. For the Europa League under not inconsiderable financial constrains, Hobbs has delivered a big squad yes, but it is devoid of leaders and quality defenders. He might end up having to sack his new creative type manager like so many times before, and replace him with a Pulis/Allardyce/Hodgson/Dyche type to try and dig us out of the mire defensively to protect his employers investment.

That might well be the way we go but I'm not sure we can assume a change of broom is fixing this defence. The number of basic mistakes being made in the six yard box has been staggering, partly caused by the loss, for the great bulk of the season, of 3/4 of Sage's most experienced defenders.

What might help under a new manager is players finally cutting out stupid challenges which get themselves sent off to toss away winnable games, followed by suspension. Having our two top scorers fit for a run of games would help as well. But with the stuff going on, Sage must think his tenure is cursed. He might have been the way forward but he's been let down from every angle.

The only good news is we are hardly adrift or lacking the quality to go forward again. Since we seem to have completely forgotten how to defend, perhaps a 433 to stiffen the midfield and make our flanks more defensive might be the short-term fix.

A far better defensive coach should help as well. I wish things hadn't ended so sourly with Pulis -he'd be a great option just to drill the defence. It's really the only thing wrong with the team, especially if and assuming that Mateta and Sarr ever step up again.

 

[ASCPFC]

That might well be the way we go but I'm not sure we can assume a change of broom is fixing this defence. The number of basic mistakes being made in the six yard box has been staggering, partly caused by the loss, for the great bulk of the season, of 3/4 of Sage's most experienced defenders.

What might help under a new manager is players finally cutting out stupid challenges which get themselves sent off to toss away winnable games, followed by suspension. Having our two top scorers fit for a run of games would help as well. But with the stuff going on, Sage must think his tenure is cursed. He might have been the way forward but he's been let down from every angle.

The only good news is we are hardly adrift or lacking the quality to go forward again. Since we seem to have completely forgotten how to defend, perhaps a 433 to stiffen the midfield and make our flanks more defensive might be the short-term fix.

A far better defensive coach should help as well. I wish things hadn't ended so sourly with Pulis -he'd be a great option just to drill the defence. It's really the only thing wrong with the team, especially if and assuming that Mateta and Sarr ever step up again.

We also haven't scored in our last three league games.

 

[johnny the eagle]

Fair enough mate. I never realised that you saved the club. Hopefully they name a Bar in the new stand after you. 🙌

As the saying goes, every little helps; I wanted to do my bit. Anyway, I doubt very much that they even know I exist. When they put my name up on the big screen at half-time on the 5th April 2010, they spelt my name wrong. Also, I emailed customer service about 2 or even 3 years ago to find out what was going to happen to my brick in the wall when they start the new stand. The brick that I think I paid 50 quid for in February 2006. I didn't hear a thing back from Palace. But I have since heard on this site that the wall has been taken down and the bricks are ready for collection. Palace have not informed me of this, and I don't expect to hear a thing from them. I did me bit at the time, served me purpose. The rest to them is irrelevant.

 

[elgin eeagle]

That might well be the way we go but I'm not sure we can assume a change of broom is fixing this defence. The number of basic mistakes being made in the six yard box has been staggering, partly caused by the loss, for the great bulk of the season, of 3/4 of Sage's most experienced defenders.

What might help under a new manager is players finally cutting out stupid challenges which get themselves sent off to toss away winnable games, followed by suspension. Having our two top scorers fit for a run of games would help as well. But with the stuff going on, Sage must think his tenure is cursed. He might have been the way forward but he's been let down from every angle.

The only good news is we are hardly adrift or lacking the quality to go forward again. Since we seem to have completely forgotten how to defend, perhaps a 433 to stiffen the midfield and make our flanks more defensive might be the short-term fix.

A far better defensive coach should help as well. I wish things hadn't ended so sourly with Pulis -he'd be a great option just to drill the defence. It's really the only thing wrong with the team, especially if and assuming that Mateta and Sarr ever step up again.

All true.

 

[chris123]

As the saying goes, every little helps; I wanted to do my bit. Anyway, I doubt very much that they even know I exist. When they put my name up on the big screen at half-time on the 5th April 2010, they spelt my name wrong. Also, I emailed customer service about 2 or even 3 years ago to find out what was going to happen to my brick in the wall when they start the new stand. The brick that I think I paid 50 quid for in February 2006. I didn't hear a thing back from Palace. But I have since heard on this site that the wall has been taken down and the bricks are ready for collection. Palace have not informed me of this, and I don't expect to hear a thing from them. I did me bit at the time, served me purpose. The rest to them is irrelevant.

No dark sarcasm.

 

[johnny the eagle]

No dark sarcasm.

Me, nah never.

 

[est1905]

Steve Parish is 61. At this age the body goes through another phase of change, and so do priorities.
Is Steve Parish still the hungry go get 'em entrepreneur from the 2010 rescue or has he started to think about retirement? I 'm sure he would like to see his pet project, the upgrade of the stadium, completed in good time so he can step back and say "my work here is done". At some point he will hand over the reins.

To who though?

 

[cryrst]

To who though?

MarkA333 clearly 🤣

 

[PatrickA]

It would be difficult to argue that Parish has been our greatest chairman.
The long unbroken run in the Premier League, the removal of the threat of administration, the signing of some of the best players in our history.
All things that long term fans thought they would probably never see.

Nonetheless, something has changed even if it’s difficult to put one’s finger on it.
It feels somehow different going to the ground these days.

Parish played on this whole drive around, ‘South London and Proud’, with a view to tapping into the huge catchment area and in the early days utilised board member Steve Browett to provide a direct conduit for the fans which worked very well.
Selhurst was rocking and the players seemed to get it with long term stays for the likes of Zaha, Speroni, Ward and McArthur who had a real affinity for the club.

Most of the above has gone, although it’s not all down to Parish.

His two big objectives were to create an academy and build a ground with a bigger capacity, both sensible in terms of trying to make the club self sustainable.
The first was achieved and designs for the new ground were released to a great fanfare with money supposedly ringfenced from the new owners to enable the work to be completed.
Since then if reports are correct all I hear is that two of the owners want out and have been trying to sell their investment.
There has also been the troubled involvement of Textor, and the more recent investment of Johnson which it’s unclear exactly what it brings.

On the football side Freedman has gone, and I believe he hasn’t properly been replaced and his presence has been missed by Parish as they had a good partnership.
By his own admission Parish relied heavily on Freedman for football matters.
I can’t prove it, but I doubt under Freedman that we would have spent around £80 million on Johnson and Larsen.

In conclusion Parish’s record is great, but where we go from here is anybody’s guess.
The lack of atmosphere in the ground, the lack of connection between the players and the fans, the uncertainty of the ground development, the seemingly befuddled transfer policy and the uncertain future of the ownership.

Parish’s past legacy is assured, his future one less so.

 

[EagleEddie]

Steve Parish has red and blue running through his veins. We have the perfect storm at the moment with a number of things going wrong, on and off the pitch which have accumulated over the past 2-3 years, which means us the supporters get disgruntled and want to blame someone. SP being the CEO has to take the flack, however, I strongly believe he has the ability to get us through this period of uncertainty. Trust me, I get frustrated like everyone else but I think SP needs our support. Hobbs has to go though.

 

[NEILLO]

It would be difficult to argue that Parish has been our greatest chairman.
The long unbroken run in the Premier League, the removal of the threat of administration, the signing of some of the best players in our history.
All things that long term fans thought they would probably never see.

Nonetheless, something has changed even if it’s difficult to put one’s finger on it.
It feels somehow different going to the ground these days.

Parish played on this whole drive around, ‘South London and Proud’, with a view to tapping into the huge catchment area and in the early days utilised board member Steve Browett to provide a direct conduit for the fans which worked very well.
Selhurst was rocking and the players seemed to get it with long term stays for the likes of Zaha, Speroni, Ward and McArthur who had a real affinity for the club.

Most of the above has gone, although it’s not all down to Parish.

His two big objectives were to create an academy and build a ground with a bigger capacity, both sensible in terms of trying to make the club self sustainable.
The first was achieved and designs for the new ground were released to a great fanfare with money supposedly ringfenced from the new owners to enable the work to be completed.
Since then if reports are correct all I hear is that two of the owners want out and have been trying to sell their investment.
There has also been the troubled involvement of Textor, and the more recent investment of Johnson which it’s unclear exactly what it brings.

On the football side Freedman has gone, and I believe he hasn’t properly been replaced and his presence has been missed by Parish as they had a good partnership.
By his own admission Parish relied heavily on Freedman for football matters.
I can’t prove it, but I doubt under Freedman that we would have spent around £80 million on Johnson and Larsen.

In conclusion Parish’s record is great, but where we go from here is anybody’s guess.
The lack of atmosphere in the ground, the lack of connection between the players and the fans, the uncertainty of the ground development, the seemingly befuddled transfer policy and the uncertain future of the ownership.

Parish’s past legacy is assured, his future one less so.

I agree with all of this. Indeed, was planning on writing something very similar on a forum which I know will be read by the man himself.

Steve Parish has outlived the typical lifespan of a CEO. But then football is not a typical business. How much challenge is offered by the other shareholders is unknown, but my perception is that they entrust the day to day running of the club to him - and therefore - in line with any CEO - he's in credit when times are deemed good, but what about when they aren't ? Is he held to account ??

With the majority shareholders so remote, they only have the financials and league position to measure anything with.

As you say, his past legacy is assured. And I'm pretty confident that he won't want to be near the end of his tenure with a relegation on his copybook.

The groundswell of dissatisfaction from the fans is ironic given that the achievements of the last 18 months. I'm sure we would feel better, perhaps to the point of dismissing some of the things causing that dissatisfaction, if on the pitch results were better. But they're not.

Where to from here ? Another parting of the ways with a Head Coach most likely. But there are other issues that need addressing as well. I'm not confident that they will be.

 

[Willo]

Steve Parish has red and blue running through his veins. We have the perfect storm at the moment with a number of things going wrong, on and off the pitch which have accumulated over the past 2-3 years, which means us the supporters get disgruntled and want to blame someone. SP being the CEO has to take the flack, however, I strongly believe he has the ability to get us through this period of uncertainty. Trust me, I get frustrated like everyone else but I think SP needs our support. Hobbs has to go though.

Steve Parish has my unwavering support. 👍

 

[chris123]

It would be difficult to argue that Parish has been our greatest chairman.
The long unbroken run in the Premier League, the removal of the threat of administration, the signing of some of the best players in our history.
All things that long term fans thought they would probably never see.

Nonetheless, something has changed even if it’s difficult to put one’s finger on it.
It feels somehow different going to the ground these days.

Parish played on this whole drive around, ‘South London and Proud’, with a view to tapping into the huge catchment area and in the early days utilised board member Steve Browett to provide a direct conduit for the fans which worked very well.
Selhurst was rocking and the players seemed to get it with long term stays for the likes of Zaha, Speroni, Ward and McArthur who had a real affinity for the club.

Most of the above has gone, although it’s not all down to Parish.

His two big objectives were to create an academy and build a ground with a bigger capacity, both sensible in terms of trying to make the club self sustainable.
The first was achieved and designs for the new ground were released to a great fanfare with money supposedly ringfenced from the new owners to enable the work to be completed.
Since then if reports are correct all I hear is that two of the owners want out and have been trying to sell their investment.
There has also been the troubled involvement of Textor, and the more recent investment of Johnson which it’s unclear exactly what it brings.

On the football side Freedman has gone, and I believe he hasn’t properly been replaced and his presence has been missed by Parish as they had a good partnership.
By his own admission Parish relied heavily on Freedman for football matters.
I can’t prove it, but I doubt under Freedman that we would have spent around £80 million on Johnson and Larsen.

In conclusion Parish’s record is great, but where we go from here is anybody’s guess.
The lack of atmosphere in the ground, the lack of connection between the players and the fans, the uncertainty of the ground development, the seemingly befuddled transfer policy and the uncertain future of the ownership.

Parish’s past legacy is assured, his future one less so.

Johnson bought shares, so not new money. There have been other posts that suggest Textor financed the academy, which clearly is incorrect.

 

[PatrickA]

Steve Parish has my unwavering support. 👍

He’ll be delighted.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

No dark sarcasm.

Football is only interested in George Floyd not Pink.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

No dark sarcasm.

In the Classroom?