Fan Protest before the Hull Match?

eaglesdare said:
What's wrong with tourists anyway? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Have they never gone to a local game while abroad? I've been to games in Germany, france, portugal and Italy while away.
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It drives up ticket prices. Nothing wrong with the tourists, it's the fact the prices are hiked and it maybe prevents someone with a more vested interest rather than someone looking for a background for their Instagram post.
 
eaglesdare said:
What's wrong with tourists anyway? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Have they never gone to a local game while abroad? I've been to games in Germany, france, portugal and Italy while away.
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I went to Real Mallorca v Villarreal a couple of years ago while on holiday and I remember it suddenly dawning on me as we got sneered at by some locals sitting near us that we were football tourists and they were probably thinking what we think in this country when we see a row of Asian or American people at games in their half and half scarves 🤣
 
highbury eagle said:
But you have to pay £50 and be a member plus or whatever to gift your ticket to someone
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I thought that this season you can either sell your ticket to the club (as long as someone wants to buy it) or you can request to transfer it to someone you know as long as they are a member or st holder. They changed it.

Only thing i can't do is give it to a non-member.
 
eritheagle said:
I thought that this season you can either sell your ticket to the club (as long as someone wants to buy it) or you can request to transfer it to someone you know as long as they are a member or st holder. They changed it.

Only thing i can't do is give it to a non-member.
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Unless you have season ticket +.

I don't see the issue anyway just people throwing their toys out of their pram for no reason. Perhaps as someone said earlier it might have a bit of HFs interference.
 
cryrst said:
Get who you are transferring to pay you then. I don’t think it’s 50 for a membership.
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It's £50 for season ticket plus, not for membership. It means you pay to give away the ticket you've already paid for. The solution isn't for me to pass the charge on to the person I'm giving the ticket to. I don't want to do that. I simply want to give away something I theoretically already own, namely access to the match. I know I get a crappy acrylic scarf with my 'plus' and discounts in the club shop, but I don't want it. It's part of the reason sectors of the support are getting frustrated. The club won't see any value in me as a supporter. I spend nothing in the shop, I never buy pies, programmes, beer. I simply buy tickets to support my club. My seat could be sold to a different tourist every week for double the money, and those consumers are likely to spend £100 on tat in the club shop too. It's a dilemma. The investors are looking for a return, and there are thousands of ungrateful supporters like me, clogging up the seats, and denying them a decent revenue stream.
 
If the protest is over having to have at least a £25 membership to receive a transfered ticket or buy one then I find that pathetic.

Is there any other premier league club that don't require you to have a membership to purchase or receive a transfered ticket?
 
I have had a season ticket for decades. A few of the later games of last season I could not attend due to treatment recovery from a serious ill health problem. Went to the trouble of attempting to sell the tickets back to the club. I received no refunds at all with the club claiming they were not sold on (if so why not). On the last occasion I asked regulars season ticket holders around my seat if anyone had used my seat. The reply was yes. So how did this happen. Complained to the box office who still said my seat was not re-sold.....Just don't believe them as found out my seat was occupied on all occasions well before kick off (hence not just slipping in anywhere vacant a few minutes after KO which does understandably happen from time to time).
Also to be clear, do not agree and not joining any pathetic waste of time protest (life unfortunately for me just now too short for any of this nonsense).....just saying!
 
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highbury eagle said:
It's £50 for season ticket plus, not for membership. It means you pay to give away the ticket you've already paid for. The solution isn't for me to pass the charge on to the person I'm giving the ticket to. I don't want to do that. I simply want to give away something I theoretically already own, namely access to the match. I know I get a crappy acrylic scarf with my 'plus' and discounts in the club shop, but I don't want it. It's part of the reason sectors of the support are getting frustrated. The club won't see any value in me as a supporter. I spend nothing in the shop, I never buy pies, programmes, beer. I simply buy tickets to support my club. My seat could be sold to a different tourist every week for double the money, and those consumers are likely to spend £100 on tat in the club shop too. It's a dilemma. The investors are looking for a return, and there are thousands of ungrateful supporters like me, clogging up the seats, and denying them a decent revenue stream.
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the ST+ also allows you to purchase another ticket when they come on sale to gold members (it's the same as having an additional gold membership) - We have ST+ so we can (hopefully) purchase additional tickets for games around Christmas when the two kids are back from Uni (both my wife and I have ST+) - Basically it's the same as the kids having gold memberships but also allows us to transfer our tickets to anyone who has a client ID - Plus all the other stuff that comes with having ST+ like extra parish points and sometimes earlier access to cup game tickets.
 
highbury eagle said:
It drives up ticket prices. Nothing wrong with the tourists, it's the fact the prices are hiked and it maybe prevents someone with a more vested interest rather than someone looking for a background for their Instagram post.
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Tourists don't jack up ticket prices, the costs of players (primary reason), maintaining Selhurst, the women's team and inflation are what causes the ticket prices to rise. Even if you banned all tourists, those prices are still going up until there is a come to Jesus with the Prem about a legit salary cap.

I don't disagree with you that tourists are not there for the love of the team, that is what makes them different then actual fans and supporters. We also don't get nearly as many of them as the major clubs do so it tends to be relative to who we are playing that week.
 
Mark B said:
Tourists don't jack up ticket prices, the costs of players (primary reason), maintaining Selhurst, the women's team and inflation are what causes the ticket prices to rise. Even if you banned all tourists, those prices are still going up until there is a come to Jesus with the Prem about a legit salary cap.

I don't disagree with you that tourists are not there for the love of the team, that is what makes them different then actual fans and supporters. We also don't get nearly as many of them as the major clubs do so it tends to be relative to who we are playing that week.
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Agree, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think we are attracting a disproportionate amount of tourists who are driving up prices and making tickets unavailable.
I do however, strongly believe that a season ticket holder, should be allowed to share their ticket to a person of their choice, if they can’t make the game.
 
EagleEddie said:
Agree, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think we are attracting a disproportionate amount of tourists who are driving up prices and making tickets unavailable.
I do however, strongly believe that a season ticket holder, should be allowed to share their ticket to a person of their choice, if they can’t make the game.
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That you cannot is one of the most retarded rules in sports.

This is where I would like to see some Americanization and the utilization of the NFL resale rule where the team cannot do a single thing to season ticket holder until after they have sold 50% of their games for a season. Let's take Woody's own club (NY Jets) and utilize their rules instead of the current nonsense.

New York Jets Ticket Resale Rules:
  • Official Resale Platform: Season ticket holders can list individual games or full packages on approved secondary markets (such as the official NFL/Ticketmaster exchange). (You CAN sell it back this way, you can also sell/give it to whoever you want to as well).
  • Sell-Back Program Rules: The Jets offer an official Ticket Sell-Back Credit Program (for multi-seat and full season ticket members) allowing fans to sell back up to three regular-season games online through the Jets Account Manager for a credit applied to future invoices. (Yes, the club can buy back your seat for that match. We can round this up to roughly 40% of home matches for us).
  • Personal Attendance Requirement: To maintain eligibility for future season ticket renewals or select member programs, account holders are expected to personally attend a minimum number of home games (e.g., attending at least three home games via ticket scanning) rather than liquidating or reselling their entire package. (If you don’t go to 40% of the games, you may not have the option to get them again next year. I actually like this rule as it keeps the A-hole resellers from being able to buy season tickets.)
 
EagleEddie said:
Agree, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think we are attracting a disproportionate amount of tourists who are driving up prices and making tickets unavailable.
I do however, strongly believe that a season ticket holder, should be allowed to share their ticket to a person of their choice, if they can’t make the game.
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As long as they have a membership then I agree. For as little as £25.

If I don't go to the gym on a selective day should I be allowed to share my gym membership with whoever I want?
 
Mark B said:
That you cannot is one of the most retarded rules in sports.

This is where I would like to see some Americanization and the utilization of the NFL resale rule where the team cannot do a single thing to season ticket holder until after they have sold 50% of their games for a season. Let's take Woody's own club (NY Jets) and utilize their rules instead of the current nonsense.

New York Jets Ticket Resale Rules:
  • Official Resale Platform: Season ticket holders can list individual games or full packages on approved secondary markets (such as the official NFL/Ticketmaster exchange). (You CAN sell it back this way, you can also sell/give it to whoever you want to as well).
  • Sell-Back Program Rules: The Jets offer an official Ticket Sell-Back Credit Program (for multi-seat and full season ticket members) allowing fans to sell back up to three regular-season games online through the Jets Account Manager for a credit applied to future invoices. (Yes, the club can buy back your seat for that match. We can round this up to roughly 40% of home matches for us).
  • Personal Attendance Requirement: To maintain eligibility for future season ticket renewals or select member programs, account holders are expected to personally attend a minimum number of home games (e.g., attending at least three home games via ticket scanning) rather than liquidating or reselling their entire package. (If you don’t go to 40% of the games, you may not have the option to get them again next year. I actually like this rule as it keeps the A-hole resellers from being able to buy season tickets.)
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How much is a New York Jets season tickets / game day tickets?

Would they be similar prices to palace? If the club raised their matchday ticket prices / season tickets but allowed you to share a ticket with someone who doesn't have a membership would this be okay?
 
For those in doubt - the protest is not about anything mentioned in this thread yet.

The protest is based solely around the American-isation of the match day experience. Crystal Palace FC is a family and community club, yet the fans organising the protest (mainly HF) believe that the club is selling out to "tourists".

That isn't around match ticket resale. I've listed the reasons below,

- Matchday tickets being up to £70, effectively pricing out the average South Londoner who would like to attend the game.

- Music just before kick off, halt-time and just after the final whistle. This removes any crowd noise and drowns out any atmosphere being built within the stadium.

- Light shows and flame throwers prior to kick off - again similar reasons to above with regards to an organically built atmosphere.

- Club funded flags and flag bearers - the HF (and other fans alike) believe that this should all be crowd funded and run by the fans of the club. Not the club itself. This point has been repeatedly raised online and directed at the club.

All in all - the protest is based around the loss of the HF and the reasons behind why they have disbanded. If this protest is successful, I would anticipate it being the first step towards the HF's return.

Personally, I am all for it. CPFC is about South London character and it would be nice to keep that and pass it onto my kids. Not just another Premier League club.
 
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