The bbc, again.

Teddy Eagle said:
Unless you discover a way to make people pay for a service they don't receive this won't work.
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Nobody at all doesn’t receive the service provided by the BBC. They just think they don’t.

We all benefit. Even those who never watch the BBC or any other live TV. The BBC is our national broadcaster who, despite the cynicism trumpeted here in a nauseous stream of bias, is hugely respected and trusted elsewhere. The BBC is one of our few remaining genuine points of difference. Our reputation, and ability to maintain a place in the world, largely depends on it.

We all benefit. So we must all pay.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Nobody at all doesn’t receive the service provided by the BBC. They just think they don’t.

We all benefit. Even those who never watch the BBC or any other live TV. The BBC is our national broadcaster who, despite the cynicism trumpeted here in a nauseous stream of bias, is hugely respected and trusted elsewhere. The BBC is one of our few remaining genuine points of difference. Our reputation, and ability to maintain a place in the world, largely depends on it.

We all benefit. So we must all pay.
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If our reputation around the world rests on dreck like Mrs. Brown's Boys and Strictly Come Dancing then we really are cooked. Make the BBC a subscription service and find out how valued it is.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Nobody at all doesn’t receive the service provided by the BBC. They just think they don’t.

We all benefit. Even those who never watch the BBC or any other live TV. The BBC is our national broadcaster who, despite the cynicism trumpeted here in a nauseous stream of bias, is hugely respected and trusted elsewhere. The BBC is one of our few remaining genuine points of difference. Our reputation, and ability to maintain a place in the world, largely depends on it.

We all benefit. So we must all pay.
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What a load of predictable tosh
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Nobody at all doesn’t receive the service provided by the BBC. They just think they don’t.

We all benefit. Even those who never watch the BBC or any other live TV. The BBC is our national broadcaster who, despite the cynicism trumpeted here in a nauseous stream of bias, is hugely respected and trusted elsewhere. The BBC is one of our few remaining genuine points of difference. Our reputation, and ability to maintain a place in the world, largely depends on it.

We all benefit. So we must all pay.
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f*** them, they don't represent me at all
 
Teddy Eagle said:
If our reputation around the world rests on dreck like Mrs. Brown's Boys and Strictly Come Dancing then we really are cooked. Make the BBC a subscription service and find out how valued it is.
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Agree on the former (although there is worse) but the latter (as dreck as it is) makes bucket loads of cash for the corporation worldwide.

As does In the Night Garden - that seething crypto communist indoctrination of our vulnerable pre school young.

You either want free market forces or you do not?
 
silvertop said:
Agree on the former (although there is worse) but the latter (as dreck as it is) makes bucket loads of cash for the corporation worldwide.

As does In the Night Garden - that seething crypto communist indoctrination of our vulnerable pre school young.

You either want free market forces or you do not?
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My objection isn't to the standard of programmes because I don't watch them but rather that I have to pay the BBC in order to do so.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
My objection isn't to the standard of programmes because I don't watch them but rather that I have to pay the BBC in order to do so.
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Finance is a sensible debate.

The problem I have is that many who want to end the Corporation do so on sometimes questionable issues of BBC ideology.

I do not question its largely liberal/left bias; but people aggressively conflate this with the statute-imposed DEI element - present, by the way, on every streaming service; and (like Mary Whitehouse in the near past) many people violently object to content without actually watching said content.

I listen to the Today program. Interviewers (politely and respectfully) eviscerate all political interviewees regardless of their leaning. Reform, Restore and the Greens are just easier to knock down as they constantly present targets with little help from anyone.
 
Spiderman said:
It will become a subscription service, as much as you might not want it to be
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This will be a win win for both the government and the BBC.

The BBC wants rid of the licence fee as it costs over £100m to manage and the bad press they get from persecuting mainly poor women in court for non payment. They would also prefer to hide their costs amongst someone else's fees.

The Beeb likes the idea of an broadband company collecting their funds (who wouldn't) and they know that terrestrial TV viewing is dying whilst internet access is growing. Freeview costs a fortune for the Beeb and others to maintain.

The government wants to get rid of Freeview by 2030 so they can sell the frequencies to mobile phone companies. After which the only way to access TV will be by broadband thus solving the BBC's funding problem.

So adding BBC funding to broadband superscription solves all their problems and captures those nasty people who don't want to pay their licence legally or not.

For the BBC and the government what's not to like.

For the rest of us it means choice goes out the window and for the mainly elderly who don't have broadband it will be a headache and an additional cost just to watch TV.
 
Spiderman said:
It will become a subscription service, as much as you might not want it to be
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that will never happen mate. Nobody will volunteer to pay akin to Sky or Amazon Prime. The output of the BBC is just too shyte.

For the BBC to make money, its either a Tony Soprano money-grab or nothing.

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Wisbech Eagle said:
What a predictable response.

There are many, you included it seems, who are blind to the value of the BBC and see it as just another broadcaster. It’s very much more than that.
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Did you watch Little Britain and laugh when it was on prime time BBC less than 15 years ago?

Well?
 
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