Adam Wharton

[MrRobbo]

Remember, that as with everyone else, we are asking him to play a completely different brand of football.

He's having to cover a lot more distance than he was last year.

With his body shape, love for a slide tackle and range of passing I'm starting to see a bit of a young Steven Gerrard in him.

 

[MarkA333]

There is no doubt he is a very good young player if prone to the odd careless no look pass. He could do with bulking up a bit if he is going to approach Gerrard status.

 

[ASCPFC]

There is no doubt he is a very good young player if prone to the odd careless no look pass. He could do with bulking up a bit if he is going to approach Gerrard status.

All of the footballers are incredibly lean now. It's quite crazy when you're close up to them. You feel fat and you feel like feeding them.

 

[mtp1958]

All of the footballers are incredibly lean now. It's quite crazy when you're close up to them. You feel fat and you feel like feeding them.

Sounds abit like me a lean mean fighting machine 17stone of muscl💪🫣😇🤪

 

[cryrst]

All of the footballers are incredibly lean now. It's quite crazy when you're close up to them. You feel fat and you feel like feeding them.

Apart from timber. He looks like a beast.
🤔

 

[timmyb1971]

I've said before, I think Adam Wharton is like a latter day Geoff Thomas with a killer pass.
I also accept he doesn't score the goals he should.
But I've not enthused about a CM so much for decades.

Ipswich last week was probably his worst game in yonks.
Could it just be that he needed to adjust to Timber playing like a sweeper behind him, and DK out wide instead of alongside him? It must've made for a very different dynamic for him.

Top player. Stellar in the cup run. Been in no great hurry to leave Palace. Mature beyond his years and way more intelligent than the average English footballer. I still think he may yet captain England one day...

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Wharton played well today

 

[JHB]

Wharton played well today

Midfield was much better overall. Because we dropped the high press Kamada could drop back into a midfield three which in turn meant when we won the ball Wharton could drop into the pockets of space he plays from

 

[doombear]

Midfield was much better overall. Because we dropped the high press Kamada could drop back into a midfield three which in turn meant when we won the ball Wharton could drop into the pockets of space he plays from

It shows Sage's tactical flexibility.

 

[JHB]

It shows Sage's tactical flexibility.

I hope so. The balance of play was much better so long may that continue

 

[dreamwaverider]

Wharton played well today

Agreed. He nearly always plays well. But he can't shoot to save his life.

 

[RubinsCube]

Agreed. He nearly always plays well. But he can't shoot to save his life.

Adam might well see his phone ringing given news today: Rice and Mainoo both withdraw from the England squad.

England squad: Cole Palmer and Declan Rice among five withdrawals from England squad

Tino Livramento, Kobbie Mainoo, Cole Palmer, Marcus Rashford and Declan Rice all pull out of England's squad for forthcoming Nations League matches.

www.bbc.com

 

[BuzzBeats]

Adam might well see his phone ringing given news today: Rice and Mainoo both withdraw from the England squad.

England squad: Cole Palmer and Declan Rice among five withdrawals from England squad

Tino Livramento, Kobbie Mainoo, Cole Palmer, Marcus Rashford and Declan Rice all pull out of England's squad for forthcoming Nations League matches.

www.bbc.com

Exactly my thoughts..... But no, Garner & Gibbs-White called up now. Which is great news, I think a rest for Wharton and more time training at CPFC HQ is best for all.

 

[Dogburger]

Adam might well see his phone ringing given news today: Rice and Mainoo both withdraw from the England squad.

England squad: Cole Palmer and Declan Rice among five withdrawals from England squad

Tino Livramento, Kobbie Mainoo, Cole Palmer, Marcus Rashford and Declan Rice all pull out of England's squad for forthcoming Nations League matches.

www.bbc.com

Gibbs White and Garner have been called up as replacements (Phew )

 

[TheBigToePunt]

I said it in the Leeds match thread, but we are in danger sometimes of taking for granted how incredible Wharton's awareness is.

Twice yesterday the ball suddenly broke to him after a 50/50 and without even looking he immediately played our centre forward in on goal with a pass from range. The first one was when Justin did very well to cover it for Leeds, the second one was when Nketiah passed it to Sarr. In both cases Wharton had no way of knowing that the ball would break to him even two seconds before it did. In the blink of an eye he put our striker away.

I always feel like he is at a crossroads between trying to lay a bit like a Busquets or a bit like a Pirlo. The former dominated by keeping everything short, crisp, and simple, the latter by picking out long range defence splitting passes. To me, he was on the cusp of going down the former path when he had better players around him (Eze and Olise, especially) but has moved more to the latter path since then. Trying more things means he'll get more wrong, but he is still in the same category as an Olise or Guehi, in that he has 'it' and could absolutely play at any level with the best players and only get better.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Exactly my thoughts..... But no, Garner & Gibbs-White called up now. Which is great news, I think a rest for Wharton and more time training at CPFC HQ is best for all.

Kalvin Phillips scored recently. He might be looking to add to his 31 caps. He'll do. Or somebody else. Anybody.

 

[PatrickA]

I said it in the Leeds match thread, but we are in danger sometimes of taking for granted how incredible Wharton's awareness is.

Twice yesterday the ball suddenly broke to him after a 50/50 and without even looking he immediately played our centre forward in on goal with a pass from range. The first one was when Justin did very well to cover it for Leeds, the second one was when Nketiah passed it to Sarr. In both cases Wharton had no way of knowing that the ball would break to him even two seconds before it did. In the blink of an eye he put our striker away.

I always feel like he is at a crossroads between trying to lay a bit like a Busquets or a bit like a Pirlo. The former dominated by keeping everything short, crisp, and simple, the latter by picking out long range defence splitting passes. To me, he was on the cusp of going down the former path when he had better players around him (Eze and Olise, especially) but has moved more to the latter path since then. Trying more things means he'll get more wrong, but he is still in the same category as an Olise or Guehi, in that he has 'it' and could absolutely play at any level with the best players and only get better.

I agree that Wharton has 'it', that special quality which separates him from others.
The awareness, the weight and angle of pass which are granted to few and can't really be coached.
Nonetheless, he has limitations which he must improve upon to reach true elite level.
The plain fact is that he doesn't get enough goals and assists, he has inconsistent spells in games and can go missing on around 70 mins, and he has a tendency to drag and scuff his shots.

He also possibly suffers playing in the midern era where midfielders are expected to be athletic all rounders ( Rice, Anderson, Scott, Bellingham) rather than schemers.
It's a shame to see a player like Foden, who a few years ago looked like being a top midfielder, being shunted around like a bit part player while players of lesser natural ability are preferred to him.

 

[est1905]

Just as well really as I probably wouldn't want much to do with you. Oh and BTW I've always considered myself to be British/ European.

You can 'consider' yourself to be whatever you want. Problem for you pal is if you were born in England and you live in England you are English. Sorry if thats such a huge disappointment to you

 

[est1905]

I've always thought Wharton was lightweight and can't shoot. Occasionally a decent ball but there are plenty of others who are better.

Goals are the only thing missing from his game. He is exceptional in everything else he does. If Wharton scored goals with regularity someone would have made an offer impossible to refuse over the summer.
As it stands Real Madrid, City and Liverpool have him watched regularly

 

[RubinsCube]

I said it in the Leeds match thread, but we are in danger sometimes of taking for granted how incredible Wharton's awareness is.

Twice yesterday the ball suddenly broke to him after a 50/50 and without even looking he immediately played our centre forward in on goal with a pass from range. The first one was when Justin did very well to cover it for Leeds, the second one was when Nketiah passed it to Sarr. In both cases Wharton had no way of knowing that the ball would break to him even two seconds before it did. In the blink of an eye he put our striker away.

I always feel like he is at a crossroads between trying to lay a bit like a Busquets or a bit like a Pirlo. The former dominated by keeping everything short, crisp, and simple, the latter by picking out long range defence splitting passes. To me, he was on the cusp of going down the former path when he had better players around him (Eze and Olise, especially) but has moved more to the latter path since then. Trying more things means he'll get more wrong, but he is still in the same category as an Olise or Guehi, in that he has 'it' and could absolutely play at any level with the best players and only get better.

Completely agreed and what makes him even more impressive in my eyes is that he continues to make game changing passes when oppositions know what he is trying to do and actively try to press him.

His effectiveness is in no small part influenced by the quality of movement up front. I think this is another reason we need to try and get Sarr back in the starting team because it gives Wharton another dimension.