Reform

StandbyPalace said:
The only hjacking going on is how the far right anti immigrant brigade have hyjacked our national flag to push their agenda.
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What a stupid ignorant and prejudiced comment.

Yes why are British white people of Anglo Saxon, Celt, Pic and Dane heritage dare wave a flag and be proud of their culture, country, history and future. Clearly the real Brits are left wing communist progressives who wave a fake Palestine flag, or rainbow flags, and shout about how they want to import millions of young muslim and sub Saharan African men from shtholes, pay out benefits and reparations, and openly say they're ashamed of our history.
 
Spindle said:
Don't care then, because Farage is too soft and too much on the side of bankers for me. I'd rather have Rupert Lowe.
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In case you may have wondered, I am staunchly anti-fascist. However, i share many concerns about the ludicrous identity politics that have been birthed and adopted by the new 'progressive' left in recent years. I find it almost impossible to form consensus and manage younger staff and interact in a mature and pragmatic fashion even with relations. It is rotting and destroying old-fashioned collectivism and solidarity through a kind of special 'snowflake' (horrible term but understood by many) attention-seeking, single-issue militancy.

Do I become politically homeless? I can far too often, feel despair but I am never seduced by the traitorous, glib hucksterism of Farage and his mob of political pygmies.

Rupert Lowe and Restore. All i will say about him and his party is that if I were part of the establishment or deeper state in this country and wanted to split the hard-right Reform vote, I would probably set-up a party much-like Restore to do so.
 
Many feel the same, but I have a choice between mental and communist twats with islamic backing, and if they ever gained power democracy is over, or hoping that Farage actually does what is pledged. It's shite.

Fascism no thanks, but National Socialist, that works. Immigrants out plus socialised things. I'm not an autocratic, socialist democracy is my preference.

The thing is, even you can see how Labour have shifted left to try and protect themselves, but they deserted the working white man in favour of DEI and autocracy upon opposition. It's evil, and you've been left behind too.

I found myself in disagreement with a relative tonight on politics, and we've always agreed, but he's inside Labour and I'm outside it - he doesn't know it but his politics have totally changed to the far left, mine have not. He even claimed that there were doctors and surgeons in the rubber boats, and that the masked diver lot were all criminals.
 
Spindle said:
Many feel the same, but I have a choice between mental and communist twats with islamic backing, and if they ever gained power democracy is over, or hoping that Farage actually does what is pledged. It's shite.

Fascism no thanks, but National Socialist, that works. Immigrants out plus socialised things. I'm not an autocratic, socialist democracy is my preference.

The thing is, even you can see how Labour have shifted left to try and protect themselves, but they deserted the working white man in favour of DEI and autocracy upon opposition. It's evil, and you've been left behind too.

I found myself in disagreement with a relative tonight on politics, and we've always agreed, but he's inside Labour and I'm outside it - he doesn't know it but his politics have totally changed to the far left, mine have not. He even claimed that there were doctors and surgeons in the rubber boats, and that the masked diver lot were all criminals.
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OK some points i take on board here.

Can I recommend a perceptive book to you by an ex-Firefighter and Union Rep from Dagenham called Paul Embery.


He maps out the persuasive case for why the white working class have felt increasingly ignored and more than abandoned - in fact despised, hence the title - by a body of Uni educated, liberals of the progressive left who sneer at working class values, concerns and morals. It is of course, never the middle-class liberals natural 'turf' that is encroached upon by economic and asylum immigration but predominantly for the white working class to shoulder these profound socioeconomic/cultural changes.

Thus he foregrounds how globalisation works for the few at the top of the pyramid and has deeply eroded hard-won freedoms for those who had begun to prosper and build capital and community in post-war Britain.

It is an interesting analysis and quite apart from the media Islington Liberal politics which is fragmenting into an identity politics morass.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
OK, so now it's down to his acting immorally. As W.C.Fields observed - you can't cheat an honest man. The bitcoin market is valued at over £1,000,000,000,000. A lot of people have done well out of it.
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Only those who have sold it to bigger fools than them have made a profit. Just like any other Ponzi scheme. Those left holding it when it crashes, which is most of them, won’t. That’s what happens when anything without any intrinsic worth gets sold to greedy fools.
 
Spindle said:
What a stupid ignorant and prejudiced comment.

Yes why are British white people of Anglo Saxon, Celt, Pic and Dane heritage dare wave a flag and be proud of their culture, country, history and future. Clearly the real Brits are left wing communist progressives who wave a fake Palestine flag, or rainbow flags, and shout about how they want to import millions of young muslim and sub Saharan African men from shtholes, pay out benefits and reparations, and openly say they're ashamed of our history.
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Your’s is the stupid, ignorant and prejudiced comment.

Being proud of our culture, country and history is what makes people like me patriotic.

Those who mask up, to conceal their identity, adopt a uniform and then disrupt communities and those trying to protect and serve them aren’t. Any more than those who say they are ashamed of our history.

Pretending that waving a flag turns anyone into a patriot is a desperate fig leave of an excuse to cover hatred of our country. Not the country they want it to be, but the country that it is. Patriots value the past, present and future. Not just the tunnel vision of what their politics, and prejudices, shows them.

Whenever I see bunches of people with whom I share almost nothing using my flag to promote their views I feel nothing but disgust. There’s a few redundant rubber boats available that they could use to get to somewhere where they could establish this utopia they believe is available if only they could be in charge. I’d supply a few biscuits and a push out to sea! If they get into difficulties then there’s always the RNLI waiting to help.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Only those who have sold it to bigger fools than them have made a profit. Just like any other Ponzi scheme. Those left holding it when it crashes, which is most of them, won’t. That’s what happens when anything without any intrinsic worth gets sold to greedy fools.
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Is that the reason for this reaction to his donation to a political party?
 
Joseph Paxton said:
In case you may have wondered, I am staunchly anti-fascist. However, i share many concerns about the ludicrous identity politics that have been birthed and adopted by the new 'progressive' left in recent years. I find it almost impossible to form consensus and manage younger staff and interact in a mature and pragmatic fashion even with relations. It is rotting and destroying old-fashioned collectivism and solidarity through a kind of special 'snowflake' (horrible term but understood by many) attention-seeking, single-issue militancy.

Do I become politically homeless? I can far too often, feel despair but I am never seduced by the traitorous, glib hucksterism of Farage and his mob of political pygmies.

Rupert Lowe and Restore. All i will say about him and his party is that if I were part of the establishment or deeper state in this country and wanted to split the hard-right Reform vote, I would probably set-up a party much-like Restore to do so.
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So you consider Reform to be a " fascist " party?
 
Joseph Paxton said:
In the most piss-weak, cowardly, venal way no doubt. Farage is a marionette of foreign puppeteers.

Wake Up.
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You simply do not know what fascism is, and the difference between fascism and national socialism.

Reform does not fit the definition of either.

You and most on the left use " fascist " as a pejorative label without understanding the actual meaning of the word.

As an example Fascist economic policy had massive state involvement, the opposite of Reform with the exception of job saving such as the steel industry.

Fascism did not set racial policies as opposed to the Nazis where Aryanism was core.

So , per you, 3.6 million fascists voted at the 2026 local elections.

Your opinion is your own and you are welcome to it but at least try and have a basic grasp of 20th century history.
 
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HKOwen said:
You simply do not know what fascism is, and the difference between fascism and national socialism.

Reform does not fit the definition of either.

You and most on the left use " fascist " as a pejorative label without understanding the actual meaning of the word.

As an example Fascist economic policy had massive state involvement, the opposite of Reform with the exception of job saving such as the steel industry.

Fascism did not set racial policies as opposed to the Nazis where Aryanism was core.

So , per you, 3.6 million fascists voted at the 2026 local elections.

Your opinion is your own and you are welcome to it but at least try and have a basic grasp of 20th century history.
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My Uncle, killed in the Blitz in Essex as a child by fascist bastards with weapons produced in a fascist economy you soulless wretch! 😡

f***ing lecture me Hong Kong ghoul.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
My Uncle, killed in the Blitz in Essex as a child by fascist bastards with weapons produced in a fascist economy you soulless wretch! 😡

f***ing lecture me Hong Kong ghoul.
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You think you are the only one whose family suffered in the Blitz?

Try to use words correctly

For example , " A ghoul is a legendary evil spirit or monster from folklore that robs graves and eats dead bodies "

Seems you need lecturing in use of English in addition to 20th Century European history.
 
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HKOwen said:
You think you are the only one whose family suffered in the Blitz?

Try to use words correctly

For example , " A ghoul is a legendary evil spirit or monster from folklore that robs graves and eats dead bodies "
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My step-brother, named in the 70's after my Uncle. In hope. In defiance. I will let him know your comments. He and his family are of a finer calibre than you could ever hope to aspire to.

The people of this country were the tip of the spear against fascism.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
My step-brother, named in the 70's after my Uncle. In hope. In defiance. I will let him know your comments. He and his family are of a finer calibre than you could ever hope to aspire to.

The people of this country were the tip of the spear against fascism.
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Seriously?

I had several family members killed in WW2, both from bombing and in action.

It's pathetic you try to use a dead family member as some kind of finger pointing

I am waiting for you to find some family members who stood up to the Blackshirts at Cable Street.

Congrats on linguistically error free post , may this be the start of many more.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
In the most piss-weak, cowardly, venal way no doubt. Farage is a marionette of foreign puppeteers.

Wake Up.
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Yes of course, what we need is more moderate, sensible, statesmanlike realists like David Paulden.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
OK some points i take on board here.

Can I recommend a perceptive book to you by an ex-Firefighter and Union Rep from Dagenham called Paul Embery.


He maps out the persuasive case for why the white working class have felt increasingly ignored and more than abandoned - in fact despised, hence the title - by a body of Uni educated, liberals of the progressive left who sneer at working class values, concerns and morals. It is of course, never the middle-class liberals natural 'turf' that is encroached upon by economic and asylum immigration but predominantly for the white working class to shoulder these profound socioeconomic/cultural changes.

Thus he foregrounds how globalisation works for the few at the top of the pyramid and has deeply eroded hard-won freedoms for those who had begun to prosper and build capital and community in post-war Britain.

It is an interesting analysis and quite apart from the media Islington Liberal politics which is fragmenting into an identity politics morass.
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I need a book for my forthcoming holiday, that could be ideal
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Your’s is the stupid, ignorant and prejudiced comment.

Being proud of our culture, country and history is what makes people like me patriotic.

Those who mask up, to conceal their identity, adopt a uniform and then disrupt communities and those trying to protect and serve them aren’t. Any more than those who say they are ashamed of our history.

Pretending that waving a flag turns anyone into a patriot is a desperate fig leave of an excuse to cover hatred of our country. Not the country they want it to be, but the country that it is. Patriots value the past, present and future. Not just the tunnel vision of what their politics, and prejudices, shows them.

Whenever I see bunches of people with whom I share almost nothing using my flag to promote their views I feel nothing but disgust. There’s a few redundant rubber boats available that they could use to get to somewhere where they could establish this utopia they believe is available if only they could be in charge. I’d supply a few biscuits and a push out to sea! If they get into difficulties then there’s always the RNLI waiting to help.
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Ha ha ha this is up there as one of the most stupid posts you've ever written. It's comedy gold 🤣
 
Quite why there is this constant comparison of modern day political parties to Hitlers mid war Nazis is beyond me. Talk about melodrama.
 
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